Could Sophie get some vibes? Another dental

[bunny momma]

Is she grinding when she is due or close to being due for medicam? If so, you may want to ask vet about splitting her dose and giving half every 12 hours.
Dentals require her mouth to be held open quite wide, plus she may need time to get used to the trimmed teeth or to heal if she had any sore areas.
Sending more vibes.

 

[KCG]

I'm sending lots of vibes for Sophie 🩷🩷🩷🩷

 

[joey&boo]

Stopping by to top up the vibes for Sophie How is she this morning?

 

[Pets mum]

Hope Sophie is looking and feeling better this morning.

 

[a reader of books]

Is she grinding when she is due or close to being due for medicam? If so, you may want to ask vet about splitting her dose and giving half every 12 hours.
Dentals require her mouth to be held open quite wide, plus she may need time to get used to the trimmed teeth or to heal if she had any sore areas.
Sending more vibes.

She's grinding off and on the entire time, not just near medication times, unfortunately. I hope it's just that, that her mouth still feels sore... That does seem possible. Thank you for the vibes, bunny momma.

I'm sending lots of vibes for Sophie 🩷🩷🩷🩷

Thank you, KCG.

Stopping by to top up the vibes for Sophie How is she this morning?

Hope Sophie is looking and feeling better this morning.

Thank you, j&b and Pets mum. She's not doing too well this morning. Last night after she finally woke up she was eating quite well, but this morning she barely wants any food again, and she's still grinding her teeth, and overgrooming as well. Her belly's noisy, too, so I think she has a tummy ache. I just gave her her medications and then called the vets, and they said to give it a little time to see if the Bupredine will help (she didn't get it yesterday after her dental as I had assumed she didn't need it anymore) and to call with an update in 2 hours. I'm so worried about her.

 

[joey&boo]

I'm so sorry Sophie isn't doing well this morning. Really hoping her meds help. Tons of vibes for you all

 

[bunny momma]

Sending many more pisitive vives for Sophie.

 

[a reader of books]

Thank you so much for the vibes, j&b and bunny momma. I appreciate them very much.

She was eating better after her Bupredine this morning, and when I called the vets back the vet who did her dental yesterday said that it's possible she's grinding her teeth because she's getting used to the new shape, but when she's there tomorrow for her laser therapy a vet will take a look at her. Just now she didn't want to eat much, though, but she's already on all the medication they'd give for it, so hopefully we can keep her going until she sees a vet tomorrow. I'll give her some more syringe feed, too, to support her. I'm not sure why she's gotten worse after doing better last night...

 

[MimzMum]

Has she had bupredine before without this reaction? If it's the same as buprenorphine here it may be making her feel too sluggish to eat, or she could have a sensitivity to it. I have to take Ebon for a dental tomorrow and will have to ask the vet what kind of pain cover she'll have because one of them makes her a zombie and she presents as more uncomfortable when she's given it, rather than less.

How does Sophie do with syringe feeding? This might be something you should consider if she continues to be inappetant. Getting nourishment in after a procedure is so important. I understand your distress that the dental doesn't seem to have resolved the issue.

Years ago my Fiver drew a vet who clipped his teeth instead of burring them and she gave no pain medication after his op. He took some time getting back to eating afterward and I had to go back and ask why and demand metacam for him. I never used her for his procedures again because she didn't think rabbits needed analgesia.

Doubling up vibes for Sophie and you. I really hope things improve for her. xxxxx

ETA: Laser therapy on her jaw might be helpful too if your vet recommends it. She'd need some kind of eye protection during the treatment.

 

[a reader of books]

Has she had bupredine before without this reaction? If it's the same as buprenorphine here it may be making her feel too sluggish to eat, or she could have a sensitivity to it. I have to take Ebon for a dental tomorrow and will have to ask the vet what kind of pain cover she'll have because one of them makes her a zombie and she presents as more uncomfortable when she's given it, rather than less.

How does Sophie do with syringe feeding? This might be something you should consider if she continues to be inappetant. Getting nourishment in after a procedure is so important. I understand your distress that the dental doesn't seem to have resolved the issue.

Years ago my Fiver drew a vet who clipped his teeth instead of burring them and she gave no pain medication after his op. He took some time getting back to eating afterward and I had to go back and ask why and demand metacam for him. I never used her for his procedures again because she didn't think rabbits needed analgesia.

Doubling up vibes for Sophie and you. I really hope things improve for her. xxxxx

ETA: Laser therapy on her jaw might be helpful too if your vet recommends it. She'd need some kind of eye protection during the treatment.

She's had it before, but she's never had a problem with it. It is the same as Buprenorphine, but she hasn't really been sluggish on it before, though she was sleeping very deeply today. I hope Ebon's dental will go well and that she gets pain relief that'll actually help her. Tom used to be sensitive to a certain kind of pain relief, too, as it actually made him feel worse, so I get what you mean.

Sophie's not great with syringe feeding... I hate doing it, because she often gets so stressed out she'll bite everything in reach; today it included her own forepaws. So, I prefer to only do it if it's really, really necessary, since it upsets her so very much. I have been doing it off and on while she's been unwell, though, and she had a big syringe feed this afternoon. Thank you for understanding my feelings about the dental not seeming to have helped much.

Poor Fiver! Gosh, imagine thinking rabbits don't need pain relief. That's just awful. That's good that you never used that vet for his procedures again.

Thank you so much for the vibes and for hoping for her.

I'll ask about laser therapy on her jaw when she's having her laser therapy tomorrow, if that's what seems to be hurting her.

 

[joey&boo]

Thank you so much for the vibes, j&b and bunny momma. I appreciate them very much.

She was eating better after her Bupredine this morning, and when I called the vets back the vet who did her dental yesterday said that it's possible she's grinding her teeth because she's getting used to the new shape, but when she's there tomorrow for her laser therapy a vet will take a look at her. Just now she didn't want to eat much, though, but she's already on all the medication they'd give for it, so hopefully we can keep her going until she sees a vet tomorrow. I'll give her some more syringe feed, too, to support her. I'm not sure why she's gotten worse after doing better last night...

I'm sorry. It seemed so promising when she was first home & eating her hay. I really hope your vet is right & she is just getting used to her teeth feeling different. Its a different sounding grind in my experience though (most of my bunnies have done the loafing & tooth self raping thing)
I hope tomorrow is a better day

 

[a reader of books]

I'm sorry. It seemed so promising when she was first home & eating her hay. I really hope your vet is right & she is just getting used to her teeth feeling different. Its a different sounding grind in my experience though (most of my bunnies have done the loafing & tooth self raping thing)
I hope tomorrow is a better day

It did... I really thought she was all better, so I don't know why she got worse again. I've been thinking the same thing as you about the teeth feeling different thing. In my experience that's a different sound, too, when they're getting used to their teeth after a dental or are doing the tooth self rasping thing. Since she's still overgrooming a lot, too, I do think the tooth grinding is a sign of pain as well.

Thank you for hoping today will be better. She's still tooth grinding and overgrooming, and still not eating much, so we're still doing syringe feeds.

 

[bunny momma]

Sending lots of positive vibes to Sophie and her loved ones.

 

[joey&boo]

Poor Sophie. I hope you & your vets can establish whats going on. Loads of vibes

 

[MimzMum]

More vibes here for Sophie.

 

[a reader of books]

Thank you so much for caring and sending vibes, bunny momma, j&b, and MM. I have an update. The vet checked her mouth today and nothing was wrong there, so after her laser therapy, the vet did some (conscious) x-rays and bloods. The x-rays showed nothing wrong (aside from her arthritis, I assume), and the vet needs to call the lab on Tuesday about the results of the blood tests as the practice's blood test machine/computer program thing (I'm not sure how it works) only has the reference values for cats and dogs, so the vet doesn't know yet what Sophie's results mean. I had really hoped we could find out today, before continuing like this for another weekend, what's wrong, but hopefully we'll know something on Tuesday.

The good news, though, is that when we came home Sophie ate some hay. She's napping now; she's had a big day.

 

[joey&boo]

you've all had a series of big days. I hope that starts to settle now. Great that her xrays didn't pick anything up. Rudey had conscious xrays and his kidney issues were very evident on them and joeys foot tumour showed up well...what i'm trying to say is I like this gentle approach to diagnostics and i do believe its useful. .I'm sorry for the big wait for blood test interpretation

 

[Pets mum]

Really sorry that you've all had another big day, no wonder Sophie is napping ! Good to hear that her mouth is OK, and she has been nibbling hay, fingers and paws crossed here that everything else is good news on Tuesday. Will be thinking of the three of you x

 

[bunny momma]

Sending lots of positive vibes for Sophie. When my vet ran bloods in my bunny their machine computed the results, yet they needed to manually compare the results to normal levels in bunnies to interpret them. I hope you do not have a long wait for results.

 

[a reader of books]

you've all had a series of big days. I hope that starts to settle now. Great that her xrays didn't pick anything up. Rudey had conscious xrays and his kidney issues were very evident on them and joeys foot tumour showed up well...what i'm trying to say is I like this gentle approach to diagnostics and i do believe its useful. .I'm sorry for the big wait for blood test interpretation

Thank you. Yes, I'm very much in favour of conscious x-rays when they're possible. They're over pretty quickly from what I can tell, so it's easier on them than needing GA. Since Rudey's kidney issues were very evident on his, does that mean that if there's something going on with the kidneys it'd show on an x-ray? The vets have been mentioning kidney issues for Sophie, but I don't know. I thought bunnies with kidney problems drink a lot, and Sophie isn't.

Really sorry that you've all had another big day, no wonder Sophie is napping ! Good to hear that her mouth is OK, and she has been nibbling hay, fingers and paws crossed here that everything else is good news on Tuesday. Will be thinking of the three of you x

Aw, thank you, Pets mum. There've been lots of naps here. We're all pretty worn out, I think.

Sending lots of positive vibes for Sophie. When my vet ran bloods in my bunny their machine computed the results, yet they needed to manually compare the results to normal levels in bunnies to interpret them. I hope you do not have a long wait for results.

Thank you, too, bunny momma. That sounds like the same kind of thing, with the machine not being able to interpret the results for bunnies.