Chinook

Last night was similar, only 45 mins though. How Eddy is reminds me of how Boo was towards Mouse when I was trio bonding. Back then after a week of being penned with them & not much progress, I released them all in to the house. This actually worked loads better as Mouse was faster than Boo (bigger bun & better eyesight) so chases were ok as Mouse dodged Boo. Over a series of weeks Mouse gradually moved closer & closer to Boo & gained her acceptance.

When do you think I can do this with Chinook & Eddy? Do I just need to be confident they don't hate each other or do I have to wait til they are fully bonded & grooming? I'd really appreciate anyones thoughts. I know neutral space is needed for introductions & first meetings but I've never done it for the later stages. Chinook is gonna be so hyperactive exploring her new spaces - I'm kinda dreading & looking forward to it at the same time
 
So, Chibbs and Barrie... I did intros in a dog crate, cleaned out the playhouse best I could from Chibbs smells, but she still knew it, and hated that I'd shut her in possibly more than that I'd shut her in with Barrie. We had to crate Barrie overnight in the playhouse (it was December, couldn't bring them in) but we left them together as she didn't try and kill him through the bars, she just really resented him. We eventually got them to 'talk' to each other (somebun groomed somebun) but even then there were plenty of fur pulls etc. afterwards. Once we let them out into the run, it lessened right off. Chibbs could go places without Barrie and she liked that.

Barrie got fed up of trying to chase Chibbs once the space got bigger, basically, and he got really lazy ;P Chibbs either bites (=nips HARD) him to move him on or goes herself when she doesn't want company. They chilled a lot more with more space, but then they did start with 48hrs of 2' square dog crate and we're 'fine' with that!

I'd do it and see how it goes :)
 
keletkezes said:
So, Chibbs and Barrie... I did intros in a dog crate, cleaned out the playhouse best I could from Chibbs smells, but she still knew it, and hated that I'd shut her in possibly more than that I'd shut her in with Barrie. We had to crate Barrie overnight in the playhouse (it was December, couldn't bring them in) but we left them together as she didn't try and kill him through the bars, she just really resented him. We eventually got them to 'talk' to each other (somebun groomed somebun) but even then there were plenty of fur pulls etc. afterwards. Once we let them out into the run, it lessened right off. Chibbs could go places without Barrie and she liked that.

Barrie got fed up of trying to chase Chibbs once the space got bigger, basically, and he got really lazy ;P Chibbs either bites (=nips HARD) him to move him on or goes herself when she doesn't want company. They chilled a lot more with more space, but then they did start with 48hrs of 2' square dog crate and we're 'fine' with that!

I'd do it and see how it goes :)
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Chibbs sounds a right un - she really makes me laugh. Thank You for your thoughts. Eeek, pretty scared at the prospect but at some point we gonna have to come out of the bathroom & start living their bunny lives around each other. I'm hoping that Chinook binkies & snuggles in to his bum means she likes him. Does this make them less of a fight risk do you reckon?

i know everyone says its important to deep clean any space before they moved in but I firmly believe rabbits are not so easily fooled. I'm sure Eddy will know its his territory still, just be confused / indignant that it doesn't smell of him. many of his attachments, eg the sofa, under bed lairs etc can't be moved / changed anyway.
 
joey&boo said:
Chibbs sounds a right un - she really makes me laugh. Thank You for your thoughts. Eeek, pretty scared at the prospect but at some point we gonna have to come out of the bathroom & start living their bunny lives around each other. I'm hoping that Chinook binkies & snuggles in to his bum means she likes him. Does this make them less of a fight risk do you reckon?

i know everyone says its important to deep clean any space before they moved in but I firmly believe rabbits are not so easily fooled. I'm sure Eddy will know its his territory still, just be confused / indignant that it doesn't smell of him. many of his attachments, eg the sofa, under bed lairs etc can't be moved / changed anyway.
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Yeah, I think they know. Barrie's a serial chinner: literally everything is chinned multiple times a day. Does Chibbs care? No. She couldn't care less IMO. She doesn't chin anything really. I think you'll be OK as you have bum snuggles and binkies, never got those with my two but I think Chibbs was upset that i wasn't going to let her have the run of the place and Barrie was upset that she didn't really like him (because she doesn't like anyone).
 
Ooh this is exciting and scary at the same time. Eek. I'm sure you will know what's best. Maybe they need to be put into another place to see how it goes. You can always go back a step. Good luck whatever you decide to do.
joey&boo said:
Last night was similar, only 45 mins though. How Eddy is reminds me of how Boo was towards Mouse when I was trio bonding. Back then after a week of being penned with them & not much progress, I released them all in to the house. This actually worked loads better as Mouse was faster than Boo (bigger bun & better eyesight) so chases were ok as Mouse dodged Boo. Over a series of weeks Mouse gradually moved closer & closer to Boo & gained her acceptance.

When do you think I can do this with Chinook & Eddy? Do I just need to be confident they don't hate each other or do I have to wait til they are fully bonded & grooming? I'd really appreciate anyones thoughts. I know neutral space is needed for introductions & first meetings but I've never done it for the later stages. Chinook is gonna be so hyperactive exploring her new spaces - I'm kinda dreading & looking forward to it at the same tim
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I'm gonna keep dating them til Saturday I think & then decide on next course of action. Going out for Thai food :love: & drinkies on Friday so they won't have any meetings that night.

Wednesdays are my day off & so did afternoon session. They enjoyed a really long side by side body smoosh & I swear Eddy looked happy & relaxed. Both asked for groomies, neither obliged. I bought a banana yesterday too but I'd left it downstairs. Chinook hopped off after 30 mins or so. Shortly after he pulled her fur :( Its feeling like 2 hops forward, 1 back so it could be worse.

He is a very territorial bun. He creates territories out of nothing so I'm not sure how to fix it Maybe just more time & patience
 
Sounds like a good plan. Side by side smooshies is very good. DId you put them in that position or did they do that themselves?

Pip hasn't laid down once yet so we are definitely a way off smoochies and grooming
 
Mervinius said:
Sounds like a good plan. Side by side smooshies is very good. DId you put them in that position or did they do that themselves?

Pip hasn't laid down once yet so we are definitely a way off smoochies and grooming
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They were close but at an odd angle so I did position them, yep

I imagine Nethies are a bit different anyway with them being balls of energy & less in to public displays of affection :ROFLMAO: ❤️
 
joey&boo said:
They were close but at an odd angle so I did position them, yep

I imagine Nethies are a bit different anyway with them being balls of energy & less in to public displays of affection :ROFLMAO: ❤️
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That's one way of describing nethies. I'd say stubborn pigheaded monsters after tonight date.
 
some of the time when I’ve moved bonding bunnies or extended their space very early in bonding it’s caused a bit of a set back but only insofar as chasing etc till they sorted themselves out. but if Eddie is unusually territorial then that might be worth bearing in mind.
 
Eddy was a right grouch last night. Chinook was having the time of her life though ❤️ she is very playful & was enjoying digging, smoothing & rearranging the thicker floor coverings I'd put down. Eddy was even feeling bitey when her digging bottom accidentally got close. they didn't have any smooshes either, I think it goes better when they do.
 
With Eddy being very territorial I'm wondering whether to let Chinook explore a room for a few hours each day & pop Eddy in her room. Like room swap but not split evenly. Eddy really does act like lord of the manor & I'm wondering if this might encourage sharing? I'd also like to interact with her more & I know she'd love it
 
joey&boo said:
With Eddy being very territorial I'm wondering whether to let Chinook explore a room for a few hours each day & pop Eddy in her room. Like room swap but not split evenly. Eddy really does act like lord of the manor & I'm wondering if this might encourage sharing? I'd also like to interact with her more & I know she'd love it
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Well it sounds good to me. I always think it’s all about adapting things to the bunnies in question!
 
joey&boo said:
With Eddy being very territorial I'm wondering whether to let Chinook explore a room for a few hours each day & pop Eddy in her room. Like room swap but not split evenly. Eddy really does act like lord of the manor & I'm wondering if this might encourage sharing? I'd also like to interact with her more & I know she'd love it
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I'm sorry Eddy is still being territorial and bitey still. What's wrong with these boy buns ay? I think that sounds like a good idea though.
 
Mervinius said:
Let us know how it goes.
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Well she got places none of the other 5 buns who have been in the lounge have 🤣 ❤️ I love how playful & adventurous she is. Bouncy too. Bob muttering Oh christ as she repeatedly gets on to top of log burner🤣 In & out of the toy box...up everywhere. Then she worked things out with some zoomies. She still spent a fair bit of time socialising with Eddy at the gate which impressed me.

The first few hours Eddy was in the bedroom so we had her shut in lounge. Once he came downstairs we popped him in the kitchen. He wasn't happy, ate every scrap of food going then chewed the gate to bits (proper interfering with my sofa snooze). Swapped them back about 11pm. eddy didn't seem at all fussed she'd been in the lounge. Of course she'd used the tray & chinned everything. He was just happy to be back in his original space - we had his best binkies since Boo died 2 months ago
 
Aw that's lovely to hear how she enjoyed exploring, apart from the log burner 😂 Eddy not being bothered, sounds like a paw in the right direction too. Keep going bunnies !
 
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