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URGENT ADVICE PLEASE! DILLAN HAD A STROKE AT 4PM - UPDATE!

elve said:
sounds encouraging :D

I'm sure he'd be happier with Charlie too - you can't split rabbits up for any length of time without it being tricky to reintroduce them, so make sure they are supervised at first.

Also be aware that Charlie can catch E-C (if that's what he has) from spores that Dillon sheds in his wee - Can't remember but does it mention that in the article I linked to?
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I was about to mention that too Elve. To be honest I would give Charlie a Prophylactic course of Panacur even if he is asymptomatic. This is what I did with the 'in-contact' buns of the assumed EC cases I have had. Really SO PLEASED that Dillan is showing good signs of improvement. Your prompt action in getting him to the Vets and all the nursing care you are giving has more than likely saved Dillans life. Rather than putting Dillan out with Charlie I would be more inclined to bring Charlie inside with Dillan if at all possible. I would be concerned that after being indoors for even a short time the drop in temperature will be too much for Dillan whilst he is poorly. Also, IF we can believe the weather forecast we are in for sub-zero temps over the next few days. Jane and Buns xx
 
Dillan

Hi everyone, :)

Thank you for all the good advice, yet again!

Jane, you are right about the spores, so Charlie would be better having a course of Panacur too.

What a good idea! I never thought about bringing Charlie in to see him! That way they will stay friends and not have a problem living together and I'm sure it will speed up Dillan's recovery.

Dillan is still munching away on his cabbage! I can't believe the progress he is making! (Dillan looks like the bunny on the left of the photo of your buns, Jane).

When I've learnt how to add photos, I will post a picture of Dillan. I called him "Dillan" and spelt the Gaelic way because it means "Flash of Light" and Dillan is Black with flashes of silvery white on his belly etc.

I really hope he continues making good progress, I will keep on top of all his medication and nursing and give him lots of cuddles from you all!

Thanks again for all your support.

Love

Carol, Toby (Chocolate Labrador), Zippy (British Blue Kitten), Charlie, Dillan, Dante, Nico, Scout, Bounty, Louis, Billy and Bambi (my bunnies).
 
Sounds like Dillan is doing really well!! Great news as I can imagin how worried you have been. Seeing a bunster with severe neurological symptoms is bloomin' scary :shock: . They really do look like they are on their way out!! But it is amazing what prompt Veterinary treatment and good nursing care can achieve...as you are seeing!! Please let us have progress reports!! Jane and Buns xx
 
Dillan

Hi everyone,

Dillan seems to be making good progress. I've re-introduced him to Charlie outside! He seemed altogether brighter when I put him back in with him. Charlie has been very gentle with him, as though he knows that Dillan has to be treated with "Kid Gloves"!

I am still caring for Dillan with regards to his treatment and keeping a close eye on him. I also spoke to my vet and have started giving Charlie a course of Panacur too. Dillan is back eating rabbit muesli, hay and carrots, so I'm hoping he's well on his way to making a complete recovery. He still has a slight head tilt, so I'm wondering whether Dillan will be left with this, or whether he will recover 100%?

Kind Regards

Carol
 
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Bunny Land said:
Hi everyone,

Dillan seems to be making good progress. I've re-introduced him to Charlie outside! He seemed altogether brighter when I put him back in with him. Charlie has been very gentle with him, as though he knows that Dillan has to be treated with "Kid Gloves"!

I am still caring for Dillan with regards to his treatment and keeping a close eye on him. I also spoke to my vet and have started giving Charlie a course of Panacur too. Dillan is back eating rabbit muesli, hay and carrots, so I'm hoping he's well on his way to making a complete recovery. He still has a slight head tilt, so I'm wondering whether Dillan will be left with this, or whether he will recover 100%?

Kind Regards

Carol
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Thats Brilliant news!! Dillan sounds to be so much better. Well done for nursing him so well and getting all the Veterinary treatment he needs. He may be left with a slight head-tilt, my Billie was, but it really wont bother him and he will adapt to it. Or you may find that it gradually disappears over a period of several months. So pleased your Vet agreed for Charlie to have a course of Panacur too...better to be on the safe side. Now we await an update on Bounty...!! Jane and Buns xx
 
sounds great - well done and I hope he's soon enjoying life to the full again, even with a slightly wonky head :)
 
Dillan!

Hi everyone,

Thanks very much for your kind words :) . Dillan is still making good progress. I'm keeping a very close eye on him, making sure he's able to cope outside with Charlie. He's eating and drinking fine and Charlie is being very gentle with him, it's as if he knows that Dillan is unwell! :eek:

I'm still treating them both with Panacur and Dillan is still on Baytril. Just keeping my fingers crossed that Dillan makes a full recovery. :D

Kind Regards

Carol
 
Re: Dillan!

Bunny Land said:
Hi everyone,

Thanks very much for your kind words :) . Dillan is still making good progress. I'm keeping a very close eye on him, making sure he's able to cope outside with Charlie. He's eating and drinking fine and Charlie is being very gentle with him, it's as if he knows that Dillan is unwell! :eek:

I'm still treating them both with Panacur and Dillan is still on Baytril. Just keeping my fingers crossed that Dillan makes a full recovery. :D

Kind Regards

Carol
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So good to hear that Dillan is continuing to make progress. I am sure he is pleased to have his friend Charlie with him again. Jane and Buns xx
 
Dillan update!

Hi again,

Happy New Year!

I will be taking Dillan to the vets again, once it opens after the New Year.

His Panacur has run out and now his Baytril is running out too.

The last vet I saw was convinced it was NOT EC because she said he would be rolling around more because of the balance problem. However, he seems to be rolling around more now and his head tilt seems worse. He's still eating and drinking fine and managing ok once he's got to his feet and regained his balance.

I'm really not sure which way to go on this one, as I'm sure when I return to the vet, they are just going to prescribe more Baytril (this always seems to be their response!). Do I need more Panacur??? How long are you supposed to use Panacur for?

Also, everytime any of my buns is prescribed Baytril, I always end up leaving the vets with a very small "tablet sized" bottle. Surely, I could purchase a much larger sized bottle of Baytril, considering 2 more of my buns are on Baytril long term? Obviously, my bunnies welfare comes first, but expense wise - it works out quite costly for me!

I have 9 bunnies and the last time I visited the vets, I asked them about the possibility of having a group discount. However, my vet suggested it wouldn't be feasible because all of my bunnies are treated at different times and they also have their yearly innoculations at different times throughout the year! On top of this, I also have a Chocolate Labrador and a British Blue Kitten who are also innoculated, chipped etc. Obviously, my vet bills are extremely high, so why will they not consider discounts?

I've noticed that since my sister and I, have been taking all of our bunnies along for innoculations and treatment, they appear to be trying to be come more "Bunny Friendly" . There are bunny posters and advice on bunnies on the walls in their waiting room etc. I just wish that their experiences with bunnies would improve. I suppose I am trying to educate them with my experiences and also with the wonderful advice I pick up on this website. However, it seems to be a very slow process and to be honest, I get a bit "hacked off", with having to try and educate them in "bunny practices", yet having to pay consultation fees (sorry for the moaning).

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Kind Regards

Carol
 
Hi there :D . Firstly re the Panacur the treatment usually needs to be for 4 weeks to ensure erradication of the parasite. The neurological symptoms(loss of balance/head tilt etc) are not due to the fact that the parasite is still there but to the inflammatory response of the previously effected tissue....ie the brain/kidneys. Personally I would expect a vet to prescribe anti-inflammatory medication ASWELL as antibiotics as the neurological symptoms can be reduced if inflammation of effected tissue is controlled. Sometimes permanant neurological signs remain, or you may find that they very slowly resolve over a period of several months. But I am a wee bit puzzled as to why your vet has not prescribed anti-inflammatories... :? :? With buying larger quantities of Baytril, my vet agrees to this (I have 31 Buns!!) I use the injectable Baytril and buying it by the bottle works out MUCH cheaper. Infact my vet allows me to by all prescription meds this way. Just aswell really :roll: :roll: !! So I guess it is down to how each individual Vet works!! Vets are realising that Rabbits are becoming more and more popular as pets and that owners expect the same quality of veterinary care and knowledge as they would for a cat or dog. So it is going to be in the long-term best interests of Vets to make sure they keep up-to-date on the advances in Rabbit Medicine. Of course no Vet can know EVERYTHING about all species of animals they treat (although SOME vets may like to THINK they do :roll: :roll: ) and therefore it is important that the offer of specialist referal is available. Hope your next appointment with your Vets goes OK and that you can negotiate a mutually agreeable 'working relationship'. Jane and Buns xx
 
ach - these vets! :roll:

definitely go with what Jane says about anti-inflammatories, and it sounds like poor Dillan should have a couple more weeks panacur too...Hope you can tell your vet this without them getting high and mighty like mine does - Being tactful is so hard when you're being treated like an idiot by someone ignorant, who should know better :?

Hope Dillan recovers soon, poor chap
 
Dillan!

Hi everyone

Thank you once again for the great advice. Immediately after Dillan had the stroke and I rushed him to the vet, the vet gave Dillan an anti-inflammatory by injection. However, this is the only anti-inflammatory that Dillan has had!

So, what you are saying is that Dillan should have continued on the anti-inflammatory? I can't believe a vet doesn't know this!

I am going to try and educate my vet VERY TACTFULLY! The problem seems to be that when you go to see your vet, you put your complete trust in them and expect them to come up with all the answers. I understand that they can't know everything, but they charge us full price for the supposed treatment of our bunnies, however, it appears that some vets are very inexperienced at treating and caring for bunnies. You don't see the vets reducing their prices because of their lack of knowledge on bunnies!

I've just fed my brood and as soon as I put Dillan & Charlie's dish in with them, Dillan was the first to start guzzling it! Which is great, at least he is eating and drinking with gusto!

Sorry, I don't mean to start moaning about my vet, but I feel like I'm "hitting my head against a brick wall" sometimes with them!

Carol
 
Just going to suggest printing some stuff off to take. We go to the GP with stuff from the internet ( and how they sigh!), why not the vets. A decent vet should accept they don't know everyting and be open to more info. Some people on here astound me, I really do feel safer about helping Jacob in future knowing all you guys are here.

Let's not forget Dillon..so glad he is doing better, hope for a full recovery soon. Glad you are keeping him so safe.
 
I won't waste time, I would just switch to another vet. I have seen vet that doesn't know anything about rabbit, as rabbit classify under exotic pet. A vet knows about dogs & cats is just a general vet. You need to call around and ask for a vet w/ years of experience on rabbits and go w/ that guy.
 
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