Please can I have some vibes for Fudgie

[mini lop1]

glad there seems improvement and sending more vibes xx

 

[cpayne]

Yes I'm often on poo patrol. I make sure every old poo is gone so I know what's new lol. Yes doughnut always wants grass first . Sounds like little one is on the mend but good to find out about increasing the metacam. It may not be needed now but it's good to know the maximum you can go to. My specialist thinks a lot of vets under dose as he gets a lot of referrals post ops because bunnies aren't eating and it's due to not enough pain medicine. As soon as he's upped the dose they start eating. He gave a talk on it. So if doughnut is still not eating after the maximum dose then it's time for the vets. Fingers crossed every thing continues in the right direction

 

[Jack's-Jane]

I really hope that Fudgie's output has continued to improve overnight and that she is even more enthusiastic about her food xx

 

[Scrappy's Little Helper]

Thanks Jane. Unfortunately her appetite and output still aren't back to normal so I've made an appointment for her to be seen by the vet again this afternoon.


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[nickybunny1]

I hope you get more answers from the vet for Fudgie today. Sending vibes for Fudgie x

 

[Scrappy's Little Helper]

Thanks very much nickybunny. I don't understand what's going on with her. She's just sprinted across the flat to snatch a bit of dandelion out of Snoopy's mouth. Which is very encouraging of course! But the volume of food she's eating isn't up to her normal levels. My gut instinct (pardon the pun!) is that she wants to eat more but there is something physical causing her discomfort when she does eat hence why she only manages bits at a time.

As I've been typing this she is in her litter tray and eating her hay more enthusiastically. I don't think we're out of the woods yet so I'm going to keep the vet appointment. Not least because I'd like to see if a week of syringe feeding and reduced hay intake has had an effect on her teeth.


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[Jack's-Jane]

Thanks very much nickybunny. I don't understand what's going on with her. She's just sprinted across the flat to snatch a bit of dandelion out of Snoopy's mouth. Which is very encouraging of course! But the volume of food she's eating isn't up to her normal levels. My gut instinct (pardon the pun!) is that she wants to eat more but there is something physical causing her discomfort when she does eat hence why she only manages bits at a time.

As I've been typing this she is in her litter tray and eating her hay more enthusiastically. I don't think we're out of the woods yet so I'm going to keep the vet appointment. Not least because I'd like to see if a week of syringe feeding and reduced hay intake has had an effect on her teeth.


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Yes, that is the other thing. Even if her teeth were just bordering on being an issue prior to her anorexia a week with little hay intake is certainly long enough to allow any sharp spurs to progress.

Do you notice her eating her cecotrophs ? The other possible issue that comes to mind is that her cecum is very sluggish/partially impacted. Cecal imapction can be insidious in onset and in the early stages it can mimic Dental problems

http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00dis/Miscellaneous/Caecal_Impaction.htm

Prior to her recent illness had she shown a lot of interest in eating things like newspaper/cardboard ?

Of course all of the above is pure speculation, me just thinking out loud Getting a Rabbit Savvy Vet to thoroughly examine her again will be the best way to establish what is going on.

Good luck for the appointment this afternoon x

 

[Scrappy's Little Helper]

Thanks very much for the information Jane. It's really helpful to have different possibilities to discuss with the vet.

I have seen her eating her caecals and she has occasionally left some in her litter tray. So I'm pretty confident they are passing through. However I have noticed some mucous on some of her normal poos. It's odd because the majority of them don't have it. I'm taking some of her poos including one with the mucous along to the appointment later for the vet to have a look at. I'll just have to not dwell on the fact I'll be walking around with poo in my handbag!


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[Jack's-Jane]

Thanks very much for the information Jane. It's really helpful to have different possibilities to discuss with the vet.

I have seen her eating her caecals and she has occasionally left some in her litter tray. So I'm pretty confident they are passing through. However I have noticed some mucous on some of her normal poos. It's odd because the majority of them don't have it. I'm taking some of her poos including one with the mucous along to the appointment later for the vet to have a look at. I'll just have to not dwell on the fact I'll be walking around with poo in my handbag!


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Mucous on fecal poo can occur as a result of some inflammation within the GI tract. Not all that unusual when a Rabbit has had a severe episode of gut stasis. However it can sometimes occur due to infection, so it's a good idea to take a sample along to show the Vet xx

 

[cpayne]

Thanks very much for the information Jane. It's really helpful to have different possibilities to discuss with the vet.

I have seen her eating her caecals and she has occasionally left some in her litter tray. So I'm pretty confident they are passing through. However I have noticed some mucous on some of her normal poos. It's odd because the majority of them don't have it. I'm taking some of her poos including one with the mucous along to the appointment later for the vet to have a look at. I'll just have to not dwell on the fact I'll be walking around with poo in my handbag!


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Nothing like having a bit of poop in your bag lol. Is it definitely mucous as when I add in all the meds to Doughnut her poo is sometimes wet and also sometimes sticky. Not sure what medicine does that to her, it may be the metaclop.

Good luck anyway.

 

[Scrappy's Little Helper]

Just got back from the vet. Unfortunately my usual vet is away this week and she was seen by a locum. They didn't tell me that when I phoned this morning!

I'm not sure how to feel at the moment. She checked her over and teeth and tummy seem fine, gut sounds are ok. She wasn't overly concerned about her as she is pooing and her appetite is picking up. She basically wants my usual vet to carry out a more thorough examination when she gets back and look at possible underlying causes. So I feel slightly reassured but have a nagging feeling there might be underlying causes not being addressed.

I'm going to have a think about what to do next. I am registered with the RVC as well so I could either make an appointment for there this week or wait until my usual vet comes back. My main worry is that this will be a much more stressful journey. Not ideal for a bun recovering from stasis. I'm going to see how she is by mid week and go from there. Gosh it's difficult to make the right judgement on this! Especially as she is making slow but steady progress. If there had been no improvement at all by now it would have been a no brainier, she would be straight up the RVC.

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[Jack's-Jane]

Just got back from the vet. Unfortunately my usual vet is away this week and she was seen by a locum. They didn't tell me that when I phoned this morning!

I'm not sure how to feel at the moment. She checked her over and teeth and tummy seem fine, gut sounds are ok. She wasn't overly concerned about her as she is pooing and her appetite is picking up. She basically wants my usual vet to carry out a more thorough examination when she gets back and look at possible underlying causes. So I feel slightly reassured but have a nagging feeling there might be underlying causes not being addressed.

I'm going to have a think about what to do next. I am registered with the RVC as well so I could either make an appointment for there this week or wait until my usual vet comes back. My main worry is that this will be a much more stressful journey. Not ideal for a bun recovering from stasis. I'm going to see how she is by mid week and go from there. Gosh it's difficult to make the right judgement on this! Especially as she is making slow but steady progress. If there had been no improvement at all by now it would have been a no brainier, she would be straight up the RVC.

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Lets hope that the improvement continues over the next couple of days. The option of taking her to the RVC is always there should the situation change significantly X

 

[Jack's-Jane]

How is Fudgie doing now ?

 

[Scrappy's Little Helper]

Morning Jane, thanks so much for asking.

Well I'm pleased to say that she's doing a lot better now. Her appetite is more or less back to normal, she was eating plenty of hay and grass yesterday and her poos are looking a lot better. She seems well in herself, very bright and alert and lots of running about.

Fingers crossed she stays like this and doesn't have a relapse.


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[Jack's-Jane]

Morning Jane, thanks so much for asking.

Well I'm pleased to say that she's doing a lot better now. Her appetite is more or less back to normal, she was eating plenty of hay and grass yesterday and her poos are looking a lot better. She seems well in herself, very bright and alert and lots of running about.

Fingers crossed she stays like this and doesn't have a relapse.


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PHEW !!! Thank goodness for that and I too hope that she will now remain well xx

 

[nickybunny1]

Great news !

 

[Scrappy's Little Helper]

Thanks both. Yes I feel that I can finally start to relax now. That was a bit of a slog. Although the advantage of having to syringe feed for so long is that I ended up perfecting my technique. By the end practically none was dribbling out of her mouth!

I'll never enjoy syringe feeding (mainly because if I'm having to do it it means I have a sick bunny) but I don't think I'll dread and worry about doing it so much in the future now I know I can get a good amount in without stressing them too much.

Thank you to everyone who has posted vibes on here xx


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[Barn Yard Bunnies]

Great news. X

 

[joey&boo]

yay for Fudgie & your diligence - great to hear how far she's come

 

[kattymieoww]

Glad to hear of fudge's improvement.:thumb: