Vibes please for Angel... UPDATE: PAGE 3 - Home

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Having gone through the same with our bun I think Angel may benefit from familiar surroundings, but not directly with her mate. She will be very uncomfortable just now and any activity may be detrimental. Ours was hunched up for quite a few days, hardly moving except for the litter tray and water. He would not eat so needed syringe feeding and additional water. He was kept separate but next to his bonded girl for over a week until he started to eat on his own and move around a little. They had a very strong bond and she played a big part in his recuperation by fussing over him so much.

It sounds like things are going along well so I hope that continues until she has recovered.

How often did yours need syringe feeding? I can do morning and night, but work full time so if she needs more than that it may be a problem :?

I'm basically wanting to do whatever is best for her

Do you think i'd be better setting up a playpen for her within the shed, or restrict her movement to 2 dog crates tied together? Would this help her heal if she cannot move around as much, or is more room better? :?

 

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Hi, Well - she's home!

I was so excited about going to fetch her...until the vet told me she didn't want to give me "false hope"

Angel has had a little bit of leaking through one of her stitches today so I need to keep an eye on that.

She also said they'd noticed her over-grooming today and are worried that she will end up having a blocked stomach again

She's on baytril and other meds for the next 3 days, then back for check up on Tues (unless I'm 100% happy with improvement).

Long-term, the vet said I need to feed lots of fruit and pineapple juice regularly to keep things moving along inside her.

At the moment, I'm giving 3ml of pineapple juice twice a day with 3 drops of Infacol.

The vet said it's trial and error and I'm to give less or more as I see fit.

How often and how much do you guys give infacol for similar probs to Angel's???

Any advice or tips would really be hugely appreciated as I'm a nervous wreck tonight

 

[Jack's-Jane]

Hi, Well - she's home!

I was so excited about going to fetch her...until the vet told me she didn't want to give me "false hope"

Angel has had a little bit of leaking through one of her stitches today so I need to keep an eye on that.

She also said they'd noticed her over-grooming today and are worried that she will end up having a blocked stomach again

She's on baytril and other meds for the next 3 days, then back for check up on Tues (unless I'm 100% happy with improvement).

Long-term, the vet said I need to feed lots of fruit and pineapple juice regularly to keep things moving along inside her.

At the moment, I'm giving 3ml of pineapple juice twice a day with 3 drops of Infacol.

The vet said it's trial and error and I'm to give less or more as I see fit.

How often and how much do you guys give infacol for similar probs to Angel's???

Any advice or tips would really be hugely appreciated as I'm a nervous wreck tonight

I do hope she recovers.

I know my Vet would probably differ in her post operative treatment advice so I wont confuse things by commenting on that. Your Vet is the one in the frontline treating Angel

Sending lots of vibes for her xx

 

[Maizey]

I have only just seen this,how is Angel this morning?Sending massive healing vibes her way xxxxxx

 

[Lobo]

I'm sorry to be so late in replying, it's the time difference.

I have tried to recall Liam's treatment for removal of the stomach blockage. To the best of my knowledge the sequence was:

Surgery around midday on Tuesday
Kept at vet's surgery until the following Monday week.
The surgery is not manned during the night so the vet took him to his home for feeding, medicating and monitoring; including for the whole weekends.
Came home on the second Monday (14 days later) as he had only just started to pass very small faeces.
Continued syringe feeding for a further 5 days before he would feed himself sufficiently.

He lost a lot of weight and muscle during the time and did not pass faeces until day 15. We and the vet fed him at around 2 hourly intervals only 10-20cc at a time so as not to put pressure on his healing stomach.

The photograph of Angel certainly causes me to remember how Liam looked, although he tended to hunch more. Is she eating, drinking and passing faeces yet?

Our vet said that the greatest risk after surviving the surgery was the next 48 hours to be confident there was no peritonitis. I know Liam was fortunate to get through relatively unscathed because it is extremely high risk surgery with often a poor prognosis. I related his story to show that sometimes though, despite the odds, they can make it. I certainly hope that Angel has that extra quality I believe Liam had to make him not give in despite at times looking so very ill.

I would appreciate if others would comment on the bandaging as well. This is only a personal opinion but I don't think rabbits respond well to having a bandage wrapped around their middle. It seems to effect their balance and confidence in getting around on their feet. I think cats might also have a similar response.

 

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I'm sorry to be so late in replying, it's the time difference.

I have tried to recall Liam's treatment for removal of the stomach blockage. To the best of my knowledge the sequence was:

Surgery around midday on Tuesday
Kept at vet's surgery until the following Monday week.
The surgery is not manned during the night so the vet took him to his home for feeding, medicating and monitoring; including for the whole weekends.
Came home on the second Monday (14 days later) as he had only just started to pass very small faeces.
Continued syringe feeding for a further 5 days before he would feed himself sufficiently.

He lost a lot of weight and muscle during the time and did not pass faeces until day 15. We and the vet fed him at around 2 hourly intervals only 10-20cc at a time so as not to put pressure on his healing stomach.

The photograph of Angel certainly causes me to remember how Liam looked, although he tended to hunch more. Is she eating, drinking and passing faeces yet?

Our vet said that the greatest risk after surviving the surgery was the next 48 hours to be confident there was no peritonitis. I know Liam was fortunate to get through relatively unscathed because it is extremely high risk surgery with often a poor prognosis. I related his story to show that sometimes though, despite the odds, they can make it. I certainly hope that Angel has that extra quality I believe Liam had to make him not give in despite at times looking so very ill.

I would appreciate if others would comment on the bandaging as well. This is only a personal opinion but I don't think rabbits respond well to having a bandage wrapped around their middle. It seems to effect their balance and confidence in getting around on their feet. I think cats might also have a similar response.

Hi. Hadn't even noticed you weren't in UK! Don't worry about 'late' reply.
I took he bandage off within 10 mins of getting her home as wasn't keen and thought it was stressing her unduly.
She has passed some poos and eaten and drank
She has had some runny poos (but not too bad) so am easing off the laxative meds today and may give her a small amount tomorrow.

Thanks for your post, it cheered me up hugely knowing your bunny had beaten the odds.

 

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I do hope she recovers.

I know my Vet would probably differ in her post operative treatment advice so I wont confuse things by commenting on that. Your Vet is the one in the frontline treating Angel

Sending lots of vibes for her xx

Hi Jane, Thanks for the PM - i will certainly take note of that!

What did your vet advise? The vet I used wasn't a specialist in bunnies so I'd really appreciate any input you could offer. x

 

[Jack's-Jane]

Hi Jane, Thanks for the PM - i will certainly take note of that!

What did your vet advise? The vet I used wasn't a specialist in bunnies so I'd really appreciate any input you could offer. x

Aswell as what I mentioned in the PM she would probably advise lots of hay/grass/dark leafy greens/dandelion leaves as opposed to fruit (to avoid the high sugar content in fruit). She would also possibly advise SQ fluids to insure that there is minimal absorbtion of water from the guts thus keeping ingesta hydrated and 'free flowing' so to speak.

 

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Aswell as what I mentioned in the PM she would probably advise lots of hay/grass/dark leafy greens/dandelion leaves as opposed to fruit (to avoid the high sugar content in fruit). She would also possibly advise SQ fluids to insure that there is minimal absorbtion of water from the guts thus keeping ingesta hydrated and 'free flowing' so to speak.

ah, ok. Well when Mark gets back from picking fibreplex up from vets I need to call them to settle the account so will check on that and the additional abx then.
Thanks so much :wave:

 

[Angie65]

Only just seem this, but soooo glad she's doing well. She's one of my fave forum buns

 

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Only just seem this, but soooo glad she's doing well. She's one of my fave forum buns

aw thanks

I will tell her that Aunty Angie was asking after her

I'm just about to call vets to settle the final payment of the £1000 treatment! :shock:

Why oh why did I cancel my insurance the other month?!?! :roll:

 

[Angie65]

aw thanks

I will tell her that Aunty Angie was asking after her

I'm just about to call vets to settle the final payment of the £1000 treatment! :shock:

Why oh why did I cancel my insurance the other month?!?! :roll:

Just move:lol:

 

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Just move:lol:

haha!! good point...hmmm! :lol:

Have just called vets and raised some concern that although angel has eaten greens and some fruit which was juicy, she doesn't seem to be drinking a huge amount, so am taking her back at 2.30 for subcutaneous fluids.

Will get them to check her over obv while there and make sure she's doing ok.

Wish us luck!!

 

[Lobo]

Wishing Angel and mummy all the best with the vet... I keep looking at that 3rd picture.

You must be almost out of the really critical time by now, if I can calculate with time differences.

I hope she responds to more fluids to keep everything hydrated.

 

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Wishing Angel and mummy all the best with the vet... I keep looking at that 3rd picture.

You must be almost out of the really critical time by now, if I can calculate with time differences.

I hope she responds to more fluids to keep everything hydrated.

Thanks
Yes the vet said if Angel stayed the same/got better up to Mon evening/Tues morning then we should be out of the woods (touch wood!)

Will update when we get back from vets. It'll give me peace of mind too as will get them to check stitches and wound etc.

Just hope my boss doesn't spot me out and about! :lol:

 

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Just back from vets! Had to wait a while as it was so busy down there.

Angel has had subcutaneous fluids and painkillers and seems better in herself. She is now tucking into a little hay

We go back on Wed evening for another check up and possibly more painkillers, depending on how she seems.

Her wound looks clean etc and they have changed her dressing.

Her temp was taken and that's normal.

 

[lisa0307]

So glad she's doing well...sending lots of get well vibes...

 

[Lobo]

So pleased everything seems to be progressing well. Eating a little hay is a most positive sign to keep the GI tract moving together with fluids. Liam took much longer to recover because he wouldn't eat of his own accord, probably he was anxious due to the stomach pain he had experienced.

Angel seems to have that X factor that makes them determined to overcome such serious problems. Totally speculative but I think bunnies with strong bonds to their bunny partner seem to put up more of a fight to recover.

Hoping everything goes according to plan and you soon have a happy and healthy Angel back.

 

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These were taken this morning after morning meds

She lay out next to me on the sofa while I slept a little as was exhausted with all the worry - it was bliss!

She's still not drinking a huge amount, but more than yesterday. Is eating hay and nibbling veg, so we're still moving in the right direction.

Her ear from the drip is limp and she doesn't move it at all (she's usually a helicopter bun and alternates up ears, but has washed it this morning and didn't look in pain. I'm going to mention it tomorrow at her check up.

 

[Jack's-Jane]

Bless she does look very sorry for herself

Sending lots more vibes for her xx