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More bad news for Mack: Another check-up tonight (04/03)
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Well, more mixed news from me.
Firstly he has actually maintained weight which is great, I think there may have been some fat to muscle conversion going on though because I swear he feels sleeker :lol:.
A couple of people had panicked texts at about 5pm when I cleaned him out so the wound was open for examination and I felt an odd texture on the cotton bud. I inserted my small finger into the cavity I have to admit I was almost sick when I realised it was because I'd struck bone :shock: where all the dead skin had sloughed away. There is also a suspect lump on his throat, very soft, but when I push on it I can see the inside of the cavity move....no discharge though. :?
So we rushed off to the vets with my heart in my mouth and went into consult a bit early. There is a lot of low grade infection in the skin which has given it a horrible grey appearence as opposed to a healthy pink one...in places I can pull it away with sterile tweeers :mrgreen:. What has apparently happened is that the infection is preventing the tissue from granulating and thus halting healing so until the infection is under control the skin will continue to fall away as it dies. Plus side is their is no pus, no smell and the inside of his mouth about the incisoral cavities is clear & healthy.
The lump is an unknown quantity at the moment, it's definately there but we don't know what it is. It may be inflammation, it may be the remains of his double chin (dewlap) or it could be another abcess. It will be monitored for changes for the time being....I don't really want to think about what we will have to do if it IS another abcess.
That brings us to the treatment plan. I have been told to source F10 online if I can as it will probably be cheaper than buying through the vets. Rob was very interested in the Ornicure & Intrasite Gel approach and has given the OK to proceed. He has given me a price on the Ornicure through them but told me I can have a prescription if I find it cheaper online. The Intrasite cost should be negligable
. Hopefully the ornicure will kill the localised skin infection and the intrasite will encourage granulating and the formation of healthy tissue.
What I need to know, if Rodneyvet is about, is how often I am supposed to clean and then pack the wound with the Intasite mix?....So I know how much Orincure etc. to purchase.
Firstly he has actually maintained weight which is great, I think there may have been some fat to muscle conversion going on though because I swear he feels sleeker :lol:.
A couple of people had panicked texts at about 5pm when I cleaned him out so the wound was open for examination and I felt an odd texture on the cotton bud. I inserted my small finger into the cavity I have to admit I was almost sick when I realised it was because I'd struck bone :shock: where all the dead skin had sloughed away. There is also a suspect lump on his throat, very soft, but when I push on it I can see the inside of the cavity move....no discharge though. :?
So we rushed off to the vets with my heart in my mouth and went into consult a bit early. There is a lot of low grade infection in the skin which has given it a horrible grey appearence as opposed to a healthy pink one...in places I can pull it away with sterile tweeers :mrgreen:. What has apparently happened is that the infection is preventing the tissue from granulating and thus halting healing so until the infection is under control the skin will continue to fall away as it dies. Plus side is their is no pus, no smell and the inside of his mouth about the incisoral cavities is clear & healthy.
The lump is an unknown quantity at the moment, it's definately there but we don't know what it is. It may be inflammation, it may be the remains of his double chin (dewlap) or it could be another abcess. It will be monitored for changes for the time being....I don't really want to think about what we will have to do if it IS another abcess.
That brings us to the treatment plan. I have been told to source F10 online if I can as it will probably be cheaper than buying through the vets. Rob was very interested in the Ornicure & Intrasite Gel approach and has given the OK to proceed. He has given me a price on the Ornicure through them but told me I can have a prescription if I find it cheaper online. The Intrasite cost should be negligable
. Hopefully the ornicure will kill the localised skin infection and the intrasite will encourage granulating and the formation of healthy tissue.What I need to know, if Rodneyvet is about, is how often I am supposed to clean and then pack the wound with the Intasite mix?....So I know how much Orincure etc. to purchase.
Hugo's There
Wise Old Thumper
That sounds relatively postitve to me
Mack is lucky to have such a good bunny mummy
Mack is lucky to have such a good bunny mummy
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SarahP
Wise Old Thumper
http://www.f10biocare.co.uk/products-new.html
I bought F10 SC from the company above, with the aim of nebulising snuffly buns.
Just followed the link in the shop to the company which has already been mentioned
I bought F10 SC from the company above, with the aim of nebulising snuffly buns.
Just followed the link in the shop to the company which has already been mentioned
http://www.f10biocare.co.uk/products-new.html
I bought F10 SC from the company above, with the aim of nebulising snuffly buns.
Just followed the link in the shop to the company which has already been mentioned
Was just about to say that :lol:
Just a quick update:
Phil hs been caring for Mack whilst I am at my parents and had to give him his first injection yesterday, he ended up having it in two shots but it all went in in the end after operation "distract with copious amounts of carrot" was successful. Before I left on Friday I placed an overnight delivery order with my vets for Ornicure and Phil collected that and the Intrasite gel on the Friday after his dentist appointment.
Mack had his first gel treatment yesterday morning and the top of the cavity has been sealed with gauze to keep a scab from closing the wound as it dosn't now need changing until Tuesday...with the Ornicure/Intrasite mix the wound needs cleaning 2-3 times a week as opposed to twice a day!
I'm hopeful this will be a turining point for him and that the wound will now start to granulate and heal.
I'd like to add that my Fiance is an absolute star because he is not only needle phobiac but has a very weak stomach (couldn't watch those live autopsy programmes with me!) so to be able to deal with such a horrendous condition is a huge conquest for him.
Phil hs been caring for Mack whilst I am at my parents and had to give him his first injection yesterday, he ended up having it in two shots but it all went in in the end after operation "distract with copious amounts of carrot" was successful. Before I left on Friday I placed an overnight delivery order with my vets for Ornicure and Phil collected that and the Intrasite gel on the Friday after his dentist appointment.
Mack had his first gel treatment yesterday morning and the top of the cavity has been sealed with gauze to keep a scab from closing the wound as it dosn't now need changing until Tuesday...with the Ornicure/Intrasite mix the wound needs cleaning 2-3 times a week as opposed to twice a day!
I'm hopeful this will be a turining point for him and that the wound will now start to granulate and heal.
I'd like to add that my Fiance is an absolute star because he is not only needle phobiac but has a very weak stomach (couldn't watch those live autopsy programmes with me!) so to be able to deal with such a horrendous condition is a huge conquest for him.
bunnymadhouse
Wise Old Thumper
have everything crossed here for Mack...such a brave bunny ...
and tell your OH a big big well done ...
and tell your OH a big big well done ...
honeybunny
Wise Old Thumper
Well done Phil for looking after him
And keeping everything crossed here xx
And keeping everything crossed here xx
27th Feb
Just thought you all might like to know the gel mix IS WORKING
We have pink skin coming through, new blood vessels growing (as unfortunately the wound has started to bleed a little when cleaned) and no smell or pus. I was able to take the last of his stitches out yesterday evening and there appears to be no change in the soft lump by his throat, so it may well be a fatty desposit.
I'm really, really pleased with the way things are progressing at last.
Just thought you all might like to know the gel mix IS WORKING
We have pink skin coming through, new blood vessels growing (as unfortunately the wound has started to bleed a little when cleaned) and no smell or pus. I was able to take the last of his stitches out yesterday evening and there appears to be no change in the soft lump by his throat, so it may well be a fatty desposit.
I'm really, really pleased with the way things are progressing at last.
bunnymadhouse
Wise Old Thumper
THATS GREAT NEWS ... :wave:
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
Fantastic !!
Yaaaay for Rodneyvet's suggestion
Yaaaay for Rodneyvet's suggestion
Fantastic !!
Yaaaay for Rodneyvet's suggestion
Indeed....where has he got to anyway, I'd like him to see the outcome of his suggestion and thank him personally.
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
I suspect he's working on a Bunny or 10 !!
honeybunny
Wise Old Thumper
That is such great news
made my day
made my day
That is such great news
made my day
:wave: Made my year
I missed him so much whilst I was away. He is much perkier in himself too, as we are not 'attacking' him everytime he see's us.
