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Prespulsid.............
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Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
Its Cisapride which is a gut motility stimulant. It works directly on the intestines, whereas Metoclopromide acts on the CNS (speeds up how the nerves supplying the gut make the guts empty)
Cisapride was withdrawn from use for HUMANS due to adverse reactions. Hence it is now very difficult to obtain. It actually works BETTER for Bunnies than Metoclop' but it is doubtful that the manufactures would go to the expence of getting it licenced for Veterinary use.....
Janex
Cisapride was withdrawn from use for HUMANS due to adverse reactions. Hence it is now very difficult to obtain. It actually works BETTER for Bunnies than Metoclop' but it is doubtful that the manufactures would go to the expence of getting it licenced for Veterinary use.....
Janex
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
snowy said:
You can give both. The Prepulsid will get his guts moving, the Infacol will help break-up the gas in his belly. Is he on any pain relief and is he eating unaided?
Probiotics would be good. I found the Protexin Fibreplex to be excellent when Sir Victor had nasty diarrhoea.
Poor baby Bunny, hope he soon feels better
Janex
Snowy
Wise Old Thumper
Jack's-Jane said:
He had 2 drops of metacam yesterday and is having probiotics, can't get the protexin anywhere, i've tried.
He is eating readigrass and hay and he's has a few SS pellets, I've had him runing up and down the hall, yesterday his poo's were like brown water but today they are a lot more solid and formed although still a little soft but vastly improved.
He seems a lot more bright and alert today, but he is the tiniest of the litter!!
Any other ideas or am I doing everything??
Thanks again
tupperwarequeen
Mama Doe
or you could get hold of the replacement for cisapride, domperidone :wink: I'm sure it will be cheaper.
The reason cisapride was withdrawn was because it caused arrhymias in the heart, so to be honest I wouldnt want to give it to my bunnies
The reason cisapride was withdrawn was because it caused arrhymias in the heart, so to be honest I wouldnt want to give it to my bunnies
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
tupperwarequeen said:
Is Domperidone used for Parkinsons?
Janex
Interesting thread. My son was on cisapride till he was about 6 months. He was born with gastroschisus, so I can understand why It was used. Im not sure if it had any side effects on James :shock: He was one of the first babies on it and it was given with PNS. Luckily never had to use it on a bunny.
tupperwarequeen
Mama Doe
Jack's-Jane said:
Jane you are SO knowledgeable
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/500149.html
its basically used to speed up the GI tract, it works to stop vomiting and reflux.
tupperwarequeen
Mama Doe
Steph said:
how long ago was that, its been out of use for about 7 years now. We used it all the time, it was our stockin trade drug on the surgical baby ward I worked on :lol: :lol: domperidone is not as effective, :roll: :roll: but its safer...we made sure all our babies had ECG's before starting treatment with cisapride and every couple of weeks until we were sure it didnt affect their hearts
tupperwarequeen
Mama Doe
forgot to say, we also use domperidone to increase mum's milk supply when expressing for their preterm babies
I think he was one of the first babies to have it and the parental nutrition IV system at Bham Childrens. He is 15 now. He was 11 weeks early and only 1lb 8oz born and his op the day he was born was 5 hours. :shock: I dont remember having to sign anything or being warned about cisapride although I had to give my permission for the PNS. He is fine now just has a jumbled up tum, scars and have MRI's to find things :?
Sorry to bring up a child in bunny section
Sorry to bring up a child in bunny section
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
tupperwarequeen said:
:lol: :lol:
I worked in a GP's Surgery for 8 years and I am OK with learning about things that interest me!! Ask me anything to do with History, Geography, English Lit and I am CLUELESS!!
Oh, and my Maths and spelling are rubbish too :roll:
SORRY Theo, did not mean to hijack your thread....
Janex
tupperwarequeen
Mama Doe
Steph said:I think he was one of the first babies to have it and the parental nutrition IV system at Bham Childrens. He is 15 now. He was 11 weeks early and only 1lb 8oz born and his op the day he was born was 5 hours. :shock: I dont remember having to sign anything or being warned about cisapride although I had to give my permission for the PNS. He is fine now just has a jumbled up tum, scars and have MRI's to find things :?
Sorry to bring up a child in bunny section
ahhh it was Bham kids where I worked
We didnt know about the problems with cisapride tillabout 12 years ago, but even so we wouldnt hve asked for permission, its all down to the docs assessing the risk vs benefits. Glad to hear he's doing ok, was he on ITU or PB2- i was on PB2!!
Snowy
Wise Old Thumper
That's OK, this is really interesting!!, sometimes when you ask a question you just get an answer and that's that but when you get other information I find it fascinating, I also think that the more you know a background the better chance of remembering it!!
So, this is interesting and nobody is hijacking....honest :lol:
As each hour goes by he seems to be looking better....or at least I hope that's not just 'wishful thinking', but his poo's are getting much better, but how will I know when the bloat has gone?
Thanks for all the help
So, this is interesting and nobody is hijacking....honest :lol:
As each hour goes by he seems to be looking better....or at least I hope that's not just 'wishful thinking', but his poo's are getting much better, but how will I know when the bloat has gone?
Thanks for all the help
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
snowy said:
If you have a feel of his belly now, then again in a few hours you should be able to notice a difference as the gas should have dispersed. He wont look so 'pot-bellied'
It sounds very promising that his poo is firming up and the fact he is eating is great. The more fibre he gets the better so hopefully he is nibbling at hay.
Oh and you can buy Fibreplex here
http://www.petvetcare.co.uk/acatalog/Small_Animals_Pets.html
Janex
Snowy
Wise Old Thumper
Jack's-Jane said:
OK, when this started I could tap his tummy and it sounded like a drum, kind of hollow, now it is softer, not so hard, and the 'fatness' around his middle is going down.....I think anyway :roll:
But, he is running about and he is eating lots of oxbow hay and readigrass so I am very hopeful
Thanks for all the info
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
snowy said:
Sounds as though he is well on the mend!!
Janex
