*lily*
Wise Old Thumper
Ooooh must go and look if Louie is perfect or not! :lol::lol:
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Tortoiseshell/Harlequin...
- Thread starter georgie_f
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Ooooh must go and look if Louie is perfect or not! :lol::lol:
Gosh, this is more confusing than I thought it'd be! :lol:
What colour would I call Jess? She's quite a light colour on one side and a darker colour on the other!
I've always called her (and all multi coloured, splodgey bunnies! :lola harlequin. Or maybe she's 'tri-coloured'??
Geroff my bun! :evil::lol: I can't believe how much she looks like Daphne! Even the same markings. I've always thought Daphne was a harlequin, that's what everyone rabbit savvy who's seen her has called her anyway. I wasn't even aware of the colour/marking 'harlequin' before I got her
My vet said Ruby was 'like a tortoiseshell colour' but I'm not sure if that is a definite confirmation :lol:
DemiS
Warren Veteran
Harlequin and tort are completely different.
Emilybun, your two are harlequins and so is yours Georgie. Fifi is a tri colour (broken harlequin)
A black tort's genotype would be aaB-C-D-ee
A black harlequin's genotype would be A-B-C-D-ej-
You can put ej with a (Harlequin with self, non-agouti) but then you'll end up with shaded harlequins
Torts are pointed, an orange/fawn base colour, but the ears, tail, feet and nose are darker, and can be black, blue, chocolate or lilac. In baby rabbits you can hardly see the points, and whilst young they will be quite strong, as they get older the points get bigger but fade out more if that makes sense.
Tort is just the name for a colour. If does get confusing when tort in cats is what harlequin rabbits could look like. Harlequin can describe a colour (in a cross breed, rex or lop), or could mean the breed Harlequin, a rabbit of harlequin colour/markings weighing around 3kg
If the Harlequin colour has any white with it, it's usually called tri-coloured, like tri-dutch and tri-english. Tort with white dosen't have a fancy name, could be broken tort, tort dutch, tort english, charlie tort etc.
Oh and If there's harlequin markings, but no fawn/orange colour, it's called magpie, again a colour and a breed
Emilybun, your two are harlequins and so is yours Georgie. Fifi is a tri colour (broken harlequin)
A black tort's genotype would be aaB-C-D-ee
A black harlequin's genotype would be A-B-C-D-ej-
You can put ej with a (Harlequin with self, non-agouti) but then you'll end up with shaded harlequins
Torts are pointed, an orange/fawn base colour, but the ears, tail, feet and nose are darker, and can be black, blue, chocolate or lilac. In baby rabbits you can hardly see the points, and whilst young they will be quite strong, as they get older the points get bigger but fade out more if that makes sense.
Tort is just the name for a colour. If does get confusing when tort in cats is what harlequin rabbits could look like. Harlequin can describe a colour (in a cross breed, rex or lop), or could mean the breed Harlequin, a rabbit of harlequin colour/markings weighing around 3kg
If the Harlequin colour has any white with it, it's usually called tri-coloured, like tri-dutch and tri-english. Tort with white dosen't have a fancy name, could be broken tort, tort dutch, tort english, charlie tort etc.
Oh and If there's harlequin markings, but no fawn/orange colour, it's called magpie, again a colour and a breed
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This is what I thought a tort was:
http://www.amysrabbitranch.com/Photos/Colors/Shaded/ChocTort-HHJoy2.jpg
http://www.amysrabbitranch.com/Photos/Colors/Shaded/ChocTort-HHJoy2.jpg
DemiS
Warren Veteran
yvette
Wise Old Thumper
That's a chocolate tort
I shouldnt have looked.........:roll:
DemiS
Warren Veteran
No a seal point is a seal point, even though it is basically a tort with the yellow pigmentation removed (this is done by the chl gene). The gene that would make a harlequin a magpie is the chd gene
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DemiS
Warren Veteran
Gosh, this is more confusing than I thought it'd be! :lol:
What colour would I call Jess? She's quite a light colour on one side and a darker colour on the other!
I've always called her (and all multi coloured, splodgey bunnies! :lol
Just gone back through the thread, although your bun is of 3 colours, I'm unsure if the white markings are caused by the vienna gene or dutch gene. If it was the vienna gene, I don't *think* your bun would be classed as a tri colour, just a vienna mark harlequin, then again vienna marks aren't showable so I'm not sure
vee-jay
Mama Doe
I would call that rabbit demi harliquin vienna. but your right it could be a dutch, has right body shape
the colour is harlequin
What would Jacinta be classed as?? I've never known....
the colour is harlequin
Awwwhhh! Look at everyone's cute mystery coloured bunnies! :lol::wave:
Now I really wish I'd listened during biology lessons! :lol: I like I'm kind of getting it, although I thought the bunny in Amy's link would be called a sooty fawn?
Her heads a bit squiffy as she was recovering from EC. Although I have to admit, I think she was extra cute with the head tilt - she used to kind of look at me as if she was really interested... Now she doesn't! :roll::lol::lol:
ETA - I've no idea about Jess's genes, she came from a pet shop a good four/five years ago so I've no idea what her parents looked like. I guess she could have some dutch in her. I remember her being there woth two litter mates who were both a much darker colour with no white though.
:wave:Now I really wish I'd listened during biology lessons! :lol: I like I'm kind of getting it, although I thought the bunny in Amy's link would be called a sooty fawn?
Jess is stunning - defies classification!
Her heads a bit squiffy as she was recovering from EC. Although I have to admit, I think she was extra cute with the head tilt - she used to kind of look at me as if she was really interested... Now she doesn't! :roll::lol::lol:
ETA - I've no idea about Jess's genes, she came from a pet shop a good four/five years ago so I've no idea what her parents looked like. I guess she could have some dutch in her. I remember her being there woth two litter mates who were both a much darker colour with no white though.
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*Goes into brain meltdown*
I think I'll just carry on describing Jess as 'a bit orange, a bit black and a little bit white' :lol:
DemiS
Warren Veteran
Just say Harlequin :lol:
