binkyCodie
Mama Doe
thank you for all your wishes, i'm having some time to rest (my back has given up) before getting ready to collect her very soon. I can't wait to have my little muffins home, its too odd not having them there!
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Luna seems "unwell" - U/D, she's home & stoned
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binkyCodie
Mama Doe
she’s home, very spaced out and her eyes look popped out of her skull [emoji15]she doesn’t really move, just sits there. she can barely hop, wobbling all over the place. mostly shuffling.
I don’t think anesthesia and her are friends [emoji20]
she’s nibbling little bits, and took the recovery food well.
she’s very cold so I’m keeping her warm.
I feel bad, she looks so miserable but I know she’ll be okay.
Orion kept greeting everybody for attention, going in their pockets etc. he’s very needy. kept trying to take her recovery food too.
they weren’t sure if she peed/pooped yet, but she’s pooped on me and weed on the carpet so I think so!
poor little thing. she’s stoned [emoji23]
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I don’t think anesthesia and her are friends [emoji20]
she’s nibbling little bits, and took the recovery food well.
she’s very cold so I’m keeping her warm.
I feel bad, she looks so miserable but I know she’ll be okay.
Orion kept greeting everybody for attention, going in their pockets etc. he’s very needy. kept trying to take her recovery food too.
they weren’t sure if she peed/pooped yet, but she’s pooped on me and weed on the carpet so I think so!
poor little thing. she’s stoned [emoji23]
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binkyCodie
Mama Doe
I know I shouldn’t but I just wanna scoop her up and carry her with my everywhere.
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binkyCodie
Mama Doe
she turned to ice and doesn’t move, and won’t use the heat pad, so i’ve bundled her up for a few moments.
she’s turning her head away from the baby food, so I don’t think she’s hungry. she can have a gut stimulant around 8pm, ill syringe if she doesn’t take the food.
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she’s turning her head away from the baby food, so I don’t think she’s hungry. she can have a gut stimulant around 8pm, ill syringe if she doesn’t take the food.
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binkyCodie
Mama Doe
I hope she perks up a little bit soon.
I'm feeling pretty exhausted at the whole ordeal, mentally more than anything else. nobody else understands my concern. I would like to shower, but nobody wants to watch her. I don't feel comfortable leaving her "be" when she is so wobbly, gets cold so easily and just is so out of it. parents think I'm being too OTT and boyfriend doesn't share the same concern I guess, he just wants to do his own thing as he's exhausted from work. which is playing video games, so he's gone off to his room. I understand, he's tired, he works hard on the go all day as he had a physical job. but I'd just appreciated a bit of company and physical support
I've slept three hours if that today.
I know I'm probably being OTT but she is my life line and I would kick myself if something happened. I was panicking about leaving for a few moments to get some recovery food made up and grab the baby food
I'm feeling pretty exhausted at the whole ordeal, mentally more than anything else. nobody else understands my concern. I would like to shower, but nobody wants to watch her. I don't feel comfortable leaving her "be" when she is so wobbly, gets cold so easily and just is so out of it. parents think I'm being too OTT and boyfriend doesn't share the same concern I guess, he just wants to do his own thing as he's exhausted from work. which is playing video games, so he's gone off to his room. I understand, he's tired, he works hard on the go all day as he had a physical job. but I'd just appreciated a bit of company and physical support
I've slept three hours if that today.I know I'm probably being OTT but she is my life line and I would kick myself if something happened. I was panicking about leaving for a few moments to get some recovery food made up and grab the baby food
nap91
Mama Doe
My rabbit Snowy did that last time she had GA. It was horrible to watch as she just looked so fragile, but the next morning she was much better after the anaesthetic had worked its way out. Hope your little fluffy is back to her normal self soon x
Edit: Just seen your last post. I know it's hard but try and think of yourself too. GA can make some rabbits like that and they just need time to rest. Go for a shower and she can have a little time to rest on her own while you're gone
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MightyMax
Banned
BC - Vetergesic (Buprenorphine) makes a lot of rabbits appear 'stoned' and spaced out.
It should wear off after 8 hours. Some rabbits are more sensitive to it than others.
It's often used together with anaesthesia x
http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00...chniquesRabbit/MedetomidineKetamineRabbit.htm
https://www.vaajournal.org/article/S1467-2987(16)30575-X/fulltext
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binkyCodie
Mama Doe
I have read about that MM, but I would have thought they would have mentioned it? they told me everything she's had, feeds to the emeprid injection.. would it say anywhere on the bill perhaps?
I really don't like how the drug is having read on it from this forum. I'd just prefer not having the added stress of a bun already sleepy from her ordeal today, to have that on top. we're looking at 10pm if it takes roughly 8 hours to wear off :?
she's due some emeprid at 8pm, how long does that take to work? I was just thinking if she doesn't eat within an hour or so after, to syringe some food into her. I don't want to load her too much too quick though.
I'll also give some infacol as an in case, it won't do any harm.
I really don't like how the drug is having read on it from this forum. I'd just prefer not having the added stress of a bun already sleepy from her ordeal today, to have that on top. we're looking at 10pm if it takes roughly 8 hours to wear off :?
she's due some emeprid at 8pm, how long does that take to work? I was just thinking if she doesn't eat within an hour or so after, to syringe some food into her. I don't want to load her too much too quick though.
I'll also give some infacol as an in case, it won't do any harm.
loobers25
Warren Veteran
Your vets seems quite knowledgeable and they wouldn't of let them home. It must be the side effects of the GA. It's horrid to watch, our Charlie bear cane hone off his nut after an ear ablation surgery. Keep wrapped up and some nasty herbs/fave noms at the ready
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binkyCodie
Mama Doe
I took a shower, kevin was more than apologetic. we’re both very stressed.
she’s nibbling little bits here and there.. orion keeps pushing hay towards her. I think he’s trying to bring the food to her? it’s sweet either way.
she had her emeprid at 8:30pmish, as at 8pm she was nibbling some hay and I didn't want to bother her. so I took a shower instead in that time. she's not interested in the baby food or recovery food (Orion is :roll. she's taking tiny bits, it seems like its exhausting her? she's moving around a tiny isny bit, she's sat by a box spaced out but keeps having a little nibble every now and again of it.
its like she forgets that she's here, and is daydreaming. snaps back into reality, nibbles box..fades out again. I do get worry she's cold but she won't go and use the heatpad and objects to blanket nests
I feel exhausted so I'm gonna sleep until 10:30pm (I hope) and review the situation then on how she's doing and if she needs possible feeding etc. a tiny power nap should help, I hope. I plan to get up early so I can spend the day with her and if anything is wrong, I can call first thing.
she’s nibbling little bits here and there.. orion keeps pushing hay towards her. I think he’s trying to bring the food to her? it’s sweet either way.
she had her emeprid at 8:30pmish, as at 8pm she was nibbling some hay and I didn't want to bother her. so I took a shower instead in that time. she's not interested in the baby food or recovery food (Orion is :roll
. she's taking tiny bits, it seems like its exhausting her? she's moving around a tiny isny bit, she's sat by a box spaced out but keeps having a little nibble every now and again of it.its like she forgets that she's here, and is daydreaming. snaps back into reality, nibbles box..fades out again. I do get worry she's cold but she won't go and use the heatpad and objects to blanket nests
I feel exhausted so I'm gonna sleep until 10:30pm (I hope) and review the situation then on how she's doing and if she needs possible feeding etc. a tiny power nap should help, I hope. I plan to get up early so I can spend the day with her and if anything is wrong, I can call first thing.
Sounds like all of mine after an op tbh, I think you're doing everything you can, and vetergesic would be on the bill if you've got the break down version.I took a shower, kevin was more than apologetic. we’re both very stressed.
she’s nibbling little bits here and there.. orion keeps pushing hay towards her. I think he’s trying to bring the food to her? it’s sweet either way.
she had her emeprid at 8:30pmish, as at 8pm she was nibbling some hay and I didn't want to bother her. so I took a shower instead in that time. she's not interested in the baby food or recovery food (Orion is :roll
its like she forgets that she's here, and is daydreaming. snaps back into reality, nibbles box..fades out again. I do get worry she's cold but she won't go and use the heatpad and objects to blanket nests
I feel exhausted so I'm gonna sleep until 10:30pm (I hope) and review the situation then on how she's doing and if she needs possible feeding etc. a tiny power nap should help, I hope. I plan to get up early so I can spend the day with her and if anything is wrong, I can call first thing.
I hope she sleeps it off and starts nomming more as she recovers xx
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This :thumb: fingers crossed she feels better soon xx
binkyCodie
Mama Doe
shes nibbling, but still refusing to eat any baby food or critical care by herself. I'm not happy as I don't think she's eaten enough really, so she's just had 15ml of critical care. its a tough call because the critical care will fill her up, but she also isn't eating too great for herself.
she just seems to "stop responding" lol. with hay, digging, grooming. she just stops and then seems to remember that she was doing something!
she likes the hay cookies, but ofc Orion is munching on those too, so I don't think she'll get much of them
I haven't been able to sleep, started retching. but she's a bit more full of life and less floppy/dead looking, so I'll probably sleep through until 6am if I can, and check in then. Kevin will check when he goes to sleep, so I think we're set. she's doing good and I don't have any concerns. I hope she is okay through the night.
sometimes having one bun is easier, nobody else to steal the food etc so you can leave it be lol!
theres no listed mention of vetergesic as I have an itemised bill. so I think she just has a bad reaction to the anaesthesia :? I know some buns seem to cope better than others. both of my boys have bounced back rather quickly, Orion you probably wouldn't have known had been in for an op. when she had her spay she was dreadful, so I think its much of the same now. she just doesn't mix well I guess.
she just seems to "stop responding" lol. with hay, digging, grooming. she just stops and then seems to remember that she was doing something!
she likes the hay cookies, but ofc Orion is munching on those too, so I don't think she'll get much of them
I haven't been able to sleep, started retching. but she's a bit more full of life and less floppy/dead looking, so I'll probably sleep through until 6am if I can, and check in then. Kevin will check when he goes to sleep, so I think we're set. she's doing good and I don't have any concerns. I hope she is okay through the night.
sometimes having one bun is easier, nobody else to steal the food etc so you can leave it be lol!
theres no listed mention of vetergesic as I have an itemised bill. so I think she just has a bad reaction to the anaesthesia :? I know some buns seem to cope better than others. both of my boys have bounced back rather quickly, Orion you probably wouldn't have known had been in for an op. when she had her spay she was dreadful, so I think its much of the same now. she just doesn't mix well I guess.
MightyMax
Banned
I had this discussion with my vet, and apparently it's part of the anaesthesia protocol that she uses, so it's unavoidable.
It might not itemise that on the bill - it may just say 'Rabbit Dental' but you can ask them to look on the computer and find out for you.
Infacol is only ever a good thing
Emeprid should begin working within 20/30 mins but you may have to wait a while to see any output.
binkyCodie
Mama Doe
so for their overnight feast they have..
16 fibre sticks broken up..theyre going soft anyhow due to being open so long :lol:
4 meadow hay cookies
1 entire bowl full of hay
2 handfuls of various forage
1 handful of various herbs etc
Orion has no idea where to start!
Luna did perk up and ate some forage, a throw of a hay cookie and some herbs. she has tried a fibre first stick too.
I hope the various bits available scattered everywhere, seriously everywhere you turn is food, it will encourage her to eat. she's nibbling at the moment, which is good.
her leg is very tender as she had an IV in it.. she's keeping it slightly up which won't do her any favours neither. she stretched it out and winced in pain poor girl. I shouldn't have, but I gave her 0.4ml of metacam just to hopefully take the edge off. she had her usual allowance of 0.8ml, but with it debated that rabbits go through it quicker.. I figure on this one off it won't hurt.
she had some infacol too as an in case.
and at this moment I'm off to try and get some sleep.. I figure she'll be ok through the night as she shows signs of progress slowly but surely and is nibbling. I've set 7 alarms to go in the morning to make sure I am up to check on her and feed her. and if she isn't okay, back to the vets it is.
16 fibre sticks broken up..theyre going soft anyhow due to being open so long :lol:
4 meadow hay cookies
1 entire bowl full of hay
2 handfuls of various forage
1 handful of various herbs etc
Orion has no idea where to start!
Luna did perk up and ate some forage, a throw of a hay cookie and some herbs. she has tried a fibre first stick too.
I hope the various bits available scattered everywhere, seriously everywhere you turn is food, it will encourage her to eat. she's nibbling at the moment, which is good.
her leg is very tender as she had an IV in it.. she's keeping it slightly up which won't do her any favours neither. she stretched it out and winced in pain poor girl. I shouldn't have, but I gave her 0.4ml of metacam just to hopefully take the edge off. she had her usual allowance of 0.8ml, but with it debated that rabbits go through it quicker.. I figure on this one off it won't hurt.
she had some infacol too as an in case.
and at this moment I'm off to try and get some sleep.. I figure she'll be ok through the night as she shows signs of progress slowly but surely and is nibbling. I've set 7 alarms to go in the morning to make sure I am up to check on her and feed her. and if she isn't okay, back to the vets it is.
Awh I hope she picks up throughout the night, and yes have to agree with anaesthetic and effects varying - can honestly say Clementine was discharged within an hour of waking up both times she went under and by the time we was home it was like nothing had happened - yet Atticus fell apart [emoji38] Apricot and Penelope both reacted very differently too - so I think it's normalshes nibbling, but still refusing to eat any baby food or critical care by herself. I'm not happy as I don't think she's eaten enough really, so she's just had 15ml of critical care. its a tough call because the critical care will fill her up, but she also isn't eating too great for herself.
she just seems to "stop responding" lol. with hay, digging, grooming. she just stops and then seems to remember that she was doing something!
she likes the hay cookies, but ofc Orion is munching on those too, so I don't think she'll get much of them
I haven't been able to sleep, started retching. but she's a bit more full of life and less floppy/dead looking, so I'll probably sleep through until 6am if I can, and check in then. Kevin will check when he goes to sleep, so I think we're set. she's doing good and I don't have any concerns. I hope she is okay through the night.
sometimes having one bun is easier, nobody else to steal the food etc so you can leave it be lol!
theres no listed mention of vetergesic as I have an itemised bill. so I think she just has a bad reaction to the anaesthesia :? I know some buns seem to cope better than others. both of my boys have bounced back rather quickly, Orion you probably wouldn't have known had been in for an op. when she had her spay she was dreadful, so I think its much of the same now. she just doesn't mix well I guess.
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binkyCodie
Mama Doe
I had this discussion with my vet, and apparently it's part of the anaesthesia protocol that she uses, so it's unavoidable.
It might not itemise that on the bill - it may just say 'Rabbit Dental' but you can ask them to look on the computer and find out for you.
Infacol is only ever a good thing
alright, I will ask next time I see them/call to give an update. theres an itemised bill of the anaesthesia, dental, fluids, medication etc. so I would have thought it might be listed but its fair if not.
I was hoping it *might* increase her appetite and I'd see some more nibbling, but it hasn't seemed too sadly. I've given them plenty to eat over night and hopefully tempt her to eat some. she's having output of very small poops and they're very dark, so I can see they're hers.
she's currently in a Sphinx position, with her eyes shut and ears back, so I presume she's taking a nap. Orion is too.
I hope to open the bedroom door in the morning and to be greeted with my normal Luna
