Upset tummy?

I'm slightly worried about Gilbert. His tummy is very gurgley (could even be him farting, what does bunny farting sound like?), and when I gave him a cuddle just now,it looked like he'd done a tiny wee on me, but now it's dried I see that it's brown. His bottom doesn't look dirty or sore, but then I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking for, he's eating normally and there's no runny poos in the run or cage. He seems to drink an awful lot too, and he drinks funny, filling his mouth, then tipping his head back and swallowing, but I think this might be cos his dewlap gets in the way!! He's been having about a handful of pellets, a handful of veg (mainly greens but also tiny bits of broccoli,carrot, celery and apple) and loads of hay, and is ALWAYS hungry!!

Any thoughts?

xx

Has he had his teeth checked?
Bunnies with sharp teeth often drink alot and sometimes have soft poo.

Janex

Caspians problems all started with a loud gurgly tummy..... and have escalated to this:

http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/showthread.php?t=104000

I would strongly recommend getting some infacol down him and having him checked over by the vets.

Jane - he's eating completely fine, and seems very happy in himself. I've never seen him do a soft poo, but Faye warned me that he does if he has too much veg. does this still sound like teeth problems?

Sooz - what's infacol? Also, he doesn't seem ill, or uncomfortable,he's eating and pooing fine, it's just the gurgling, and he's been like that off and on since he came.

In himself he seems more than happy - a minute ago he appeared to be playing hide and seek, only muffin wasn't playing, so it was really just him hiding and peering out looking for her!!

Infacol is a baby medicine that gets rid of trapped air in the stomach. I think its 1-2ml first dose, then 0.5-1ml every hour after (not sure of maximum daily dose). You can get it from pharmacies and supermarkets Hope he will be ok

Is it just during/after drinkingthat he gurgles? If so that's perfectly normal

If he is eating well, (do make sure that most of his intake is *hay*), producing normal 'currant poo' and not leaving lots of caecotrophs then he may just be a naturally rumbley Bunny!!

Janex

Jack's-Jane said:

Is it just during/after drinkingthat he gurgles? If so that's perfectly normal

If he is eating well, (do make sure that most of his intake is *hay*), producing normal 'currant poo' and not leaving lots of caecotrophs then he may just be a naturally rumbley Bunny!!

Janex

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Yeah now I think about it, it is just when he drinks, does everyone know that's normal sorry, I guess I'm just paranoid after smudge (hamster) died when i'd only had him 2 weeks and 2 days. He eats well, mostly hay and I've never seen caecotrophs from either of them, but I presume they eat them before I see them. Thanks Jane, you've put my mind at rest!

p.s. thank you sarah for telling me about infacol - i'll get some for the storecupboard!

Lib_n_bunny said:

Sooz - what's infacol? Also, he doesn't seem ill, or uncomfortable,he's eating and pooing fine, it's just the gurgling, and he's been like that off and on since he came.

In himself he seems more than happy - a minute ago he appeared to be playing hide and seek, only muffin wasn't playing, so it was really just him hiding and peering out looking for her!!

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I only mention it as Caspian was like that for two weeks (from the day after he arrived from the breeders) before becoming VERY ill VERY quickly.....he was eating/drinking/pooping fine and totally comfortable and happy but bloat and then stasis set in on Tuesday and he is now on 6 meds a day and facing a GA next week.

I very much hope its nothing as what I have gone through with him in the last few days I wouldnt wish on anyone

Sooz22 said:

I only mention it as Caspian was like that for two weeks (from the day after he arrived from the breeders) before becoming VERY ill VERY quickly.....he was eating/drinking/pooping fine and totally comfortable and happy but bloat and then stasis set in on Tuesday and he is now on 6 meds a day and facing a GA next week.

I very much hope its nothing as what I have gone through with him in the last few days I wouldnt wish on anyone

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I would guess the breeder never gave him veg or grass, so his new 'good' diet is the cause as he can't handle it? I know he had half a carrot when he was recovering slightly last week, as you mentioned it was all he'd eaten - carrot is the last thing a bunny with a bad tummy needs as it's full of sugar to feed the 'bad' bacteria.

They just want hay really, and if they won't eat it then you can substitute fibre by syringing it in - I guess that's what fibreplex is - I've never seen it? Someone on the forum also said they liquidise hay and syringe that in water, which is a really good idea too

With my buns I avoid brocoli and celery as they seem to upset Dandelion's tum. Took me three vet visits with poorly Dandelion to realise that celery was causing him to be bloated. With new buns you need to stick to what they were being fed before and gradually introduce new things. Hope he's feeling ok anyway.

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I would guess the breeder never gave him veg or grass, so his new 'good' diet is the cause as he can't handle it? I know he had half a carrot when he was recovering slightly last week, as you mentioned it was all he'd eaten - carrot is the last thing a bunny with a bad tummy needs as it's full of sugar to feed the 'bad' bacteria.

They just want hay really, and if they won't eat it then you can substitute fibre by syringing it in - I guess that's what fibreplex is - I've never seen it? Someone on the forum also said they liquidise hay and syringe that in water, which is a really good idea too

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All the meds I mentioned were aimed at improving his stomach flora and fibre intake....he also has to eat porridge as its high fiber, for the next few days. Yes Fibreplex is a high fibre tube feed (like Panacur paste), he lovs it so easy to get down him.

In his case the noise is constant and extremely audible which Anita (having heard it very clearly yesterday) agrees is totally abnormal and he is still bloated even now. I agree his diet whilst ill probably didnt help but I had reached the stage of 'get him to eat anything and get him to eat it NOW'.....I would have fed him my little finger if he would have eaten it

I hope Gilbert is back to normal today Lib.