• Forum/Server Upgrade If you are reading this you have made it to the upgraded forum. Posts made on the old forum after 26th October 2023 have not been transfered. Everything else should be here. If you find any issues please let us know.

Anyone Got the Latest Issue of Rabbiting On ?

KarenM said:
Don't even get me started on that issue. [emoji85][emoji1787]
Click to expand...

Me to, we'll have to make rwaf pay for insurance for what they done

Last night I was reading a webinar feedback that had been done beginning of year one there wanted aims being rabbits not as pets. I'm sorry rwaf bit they have already been domesticated. Do you want people to release pets into wild where you say rabbit belong.
To die suffering as they are domesticated now and we have to care for them not let them out where they cannot fend for themselves. It's definitely going peta related the association and going wrong way of doing things
I'm glad I've got out on time before next renewal due
 
mini lop1 said:
Me to, we'll have to make rwaf pay for insurance for what they done

Last night I was reading a webinar feedback that had been done beginning of year one there wanted aims being rabbits not as pets. I'm sorry rwaf bit they have already been domesticated. Do you want people to release pets into wild where you say rabbit belong.
To die suffering as they are domesticated now and we have to care for them not let them out where they cannot fend for themselves. It's definitely going peta related the association and going wrong way of doing things
I'm glad I've got out on time before next renewal due
Click to expand...

Can you message me the link to the Webinar on here or on FB please x
 
I think this is where the latest initiative started. A transcript of a Summary of a Veterinary Webinar. Quoted from Emma Milne


As promised my little roundup of the afternoon session of the The Rabbit Welfare Association and Fund The Webinar Vet ethics day. We heard from Dr Nicola Rooney at University of Bristol, Dan from Vet Compass at The Royal Veterinary College (RVC), Dr Naomi Harvey and me once more. Key messages from these talks and the day in general seem to be:
• We are still massively failing pet rabbits in lots of ways. They don’t have suitable companions, the right diet or enough room. And when they do have room they don’t have anything to do in it.
• We need to think very carefully about whether rabbits are a species that should even be kept as a pet. They are certainly not suitable for children and possibly not even for many adults. Can we EVER give them what they would have in the wild?
• They live a long time, have many complex welfare needs and are NOT a cheap, disposable pet.
• Studies show that flystrike, which is a terrible disease and totally preventable, is sadly, the number one cause of rabbit deaths. Utterly shocking.
• If you have a sole house rabbit that is very friendly and companionable it may be because it simply doesn’t have a choice about who its best friend is. People encouraged to get another rabbit often find that their rabbit deserts them but is also much happier and displays behaviours that the owner has never seen before because they are finally happy.
• Just having a companion for your rabbit isn’t enough. They need to be a compatible pair or they just live in fear.
• They need SPACE and enrichment in that space.
• They need long fibre like hay and grass (not clippings) more than any other food.
• People find brachycephalic rabbits cute so the trend is going the same way as dogs. It is catastrophic for rabbits and their teeth and brings many other issues too.
• We should not be breeding ANY lop-eared rabbits and at the moment they account for more than half the rabbits in the UK.
• Extreme conformation is unacceptable in all species, including rabbits and has to stop.
• You need to know their needs and think LONG and HARD before getting them. And then probably decide against it. Sorry!

Massive thanks from me to everyone involved, including all of you in the audience asking questions and leading the discussion. RWAF and I wanted to do the topic proud and you all made it a huge success. Let’s hope that welfare improves as a result.





So thoughts on all of the above ?
 
I don't like it! Mainly cos its super judgy, not realistic & makes me feel alienated. Surprised by the flystrike statistic though.

If you were planning for a new future world & this were a board to determine if pet rabbits should be introduced then it makes good sense
 
joey&boo said:
I don't like it! Mainly cos its super judgy, not realistic & makes me feel alienated. Surprised by the flystrike statistic though.

If you were planning for a new future world & this were a board to determine if pet rabbits should be introduced then it makes good sense
Click to expand...

An animal rights activist, and she is going to damage things in the long run. From the rwaf now alienating all lop breeds
Then her saying rabbits should not be pets and should be in the wild. It's Abit to late for that now they have been domesticated and up to us to look after them the best we can
I dread to think how many rabbits may be abandoned as a result and set free in wild. I know none of us would do it. But the unbeknown new owners may do and we have heard of a few being dumped lately to fend for themselves when they cannot as they are not wild animals
 
Last edited:
joey&boo said:
I don't like it! Mainly cos its super judgy, not realistic & makes me feel alienated. Surprised by the flystrike statistic though.

If you were planning for a new future world & this were a board to determine if pet rabbits should be introduced then it makes good sense
Click to expand...


I think it is totally OTT.
 
Graciee said:
I can almost understand the nethie type buns, but I think maybe just not promoting those themselves would be fine? but to say all lops seems mad to me!
Click to expand...

I had a nethie once not sure if any will remember her, calls Rosie she never had any tooth issues etc
 
Last edited:
mini lop1 said:
I had a nethie once not sure if any will remember her, calls Rosie sheI never had any tooth issues etc
Click to expand...
Yea they'll always be exceptions to the rule, I hope my bun Willoughby never has any issues, but being honest I expect he will just based on his breed [emoji38] so I understand not promoting buns where us idiots have bred them to have ridiculously tiny heads.


I had two mini lops who lived to 10 years old. Both never really had any major issues tbh. But they didn't look anything like the squished face mini lops I see today. I bet 10 years ago nethies were healthier rabbits. Same for all buns really. Same for dogs, they didn't always look the way they do now, or have the health issues they do now. We've utterly destroyed animals tbh, makes me sick
 
Now this IS something that should be addressed

KkL22Vu.jpg
 
That last photo is fabulous....and someone has spent a lot of time on that coat.

A lot of lionheads also have coats that need more specialist care. Of the last 2 I got, one was shaved regularly by her former owner (I think she's part Angora anyway, by the fabulous ears - and the I found her breeder from her 'birth certificate' - also breeds angoras), and the other came with matted bits that I mistook for something else (turns out he wasn't ready to be neutered), and that was from a small hobbyist lionhead breeder who was actually OK in all other respects (diet, space, vaccination, etc). I dread to think of the state some must get into within a few months of leaving the breeder.
 
Shimmer said:
That last photo is fabulous....and someone has spent a lot of time on that coat.

A lot of lionheads also have coats that need more specialist care. Of the last 2 I got, one was shaved regularly by her former owner (I think she's part Angora anyway, by the fabulous ears - and the I found her breeder from her 'birth certificate' - also breeds angoras), and the other came with matted bits that I mistook for something else (turns out he wasn't ready to be neutered), and that was from a small hobbyist lionhead breeder who was actually OK in all other respects (diet, space, vaccination, etc). I dread to think of the state some must get into within a few months of leaving the breeder.
Click to expand...

Yes I was going to mention the lionhead being a relatively new breed compared to others that been around for year. Not new new but you know what I mean
 
I actually think angoras are more of a problem than lops. I always feel so sorry for the ones whose fur isn't clipped. They can't keep themselves groomed, which must feel bad for animals as clean as rabbits, it must be awful in summer, when their fur gets matted it must feel really uncomfortable or even painful to them, and I always wonder about their vision since they have so much hair around their eyes.

I feel really sorry for that bunny in the photo. :(
 
a reader of books said:
I actually think angoras are more of a problem than lops. I always feel so sorry for the ones whose fur isn't clipped. They can't keep themselves groomed, which must feel bad for animals as clean as rabbits, it must be awful in summer, when their fur gets matted it must feel really uncomfortable or even painful to them, and I always wonder about their vision since they have so much hair around their eyes.

I feel really sorry for that bunny in the photo. :(
Click to expand...

Yes I often think of if they get a dirty bottom and be hard to keep cleaning, and as you say very hot in warm weather
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

K
Bonding small family to a quiet, castrated male?
Replies
3
Views
675
kellypurr
K
H
Bonding an ec bunny
Replies
3
Views
136
InspectorMorse
InspectorMorse
S
Metacam Dispensing Rule Change in the UK
Replies
12
Views
731
KarenM
KarenM
Back
Top