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Very strange scabs and little bald patches...?

Steph_fuzzy239

Steph_fuzzy239

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Hi guys. A few days ago rosie randomly got a little bald patch right on the end of her nose. I thought it was odd but it didn't look sore or their wasn't any dandruff which apparently come with mites? (mine have never had them before so in theory i don't know what i'm looking for) anyway Yesterday I went out to clean the rabbits and I noticed that rosie's nose had a little round scab on it and it looked a little sore underneath but look like it was healing , no puss blood etc. I checked Freddie over and near his mouth there was a fee little sore patches and the skin on his nose looked red through his fur. Naturally I took them both to the vets ASAP but no one seemed to know what was going on and said it looked like it was healing well :? That was the opinion of 2 vets and some staff nurses, they think it might have been some kind of accident in the hutch/run or possible fighting? So confused right now. Just thought i'd post here and see if I get any feedback. Not sure how to post photos either which doesn't help :roll: thanks in advance x
 
I really can't be 100% :( whenever I see them they are always snuggled or grooming each other and look to be getting on. But I work full time so only see them for a little bit on an evening and also at the weekend :? So could they be doing it and I've just never caught them? They are both spayed and neutered and have been living together for over a year now. I've heard that bonds can break down though :(
 
parsnipbun said:
when did they both have their last myxi jabs?
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I'm similarly thinking that sounds like it might be a reaction to the myxi jab or else nodular myxi? Vets don't often see the sort of little scabby lumps you get so they're not always great at identifying, especially if not bun-savvy...
 
larndridge said:
I'm similarly thinking that sounds like it might be a reaction to the myxi jab or else nodular myxi? Vets don't often see the sort of little scabby lumps you get so they're not always great at identifying, especially if not bun-savvy...
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When Pooka had myxo just after her jab the vet admitted that she was almost certain of what it was, but not many owners pick up on it this early, and wildies are always so far gone by the time they see them. It was actually me that first assumed myxo.

With Pooka it started a little inflamed, then went to red crust, then black. When was their last vaccine, and if antibiotics wouldn't hurt to start if we're not certain of the diagnosis (I'm not sure myself) then I would get them on some :/
 
They both had their myxi jabs in march it was the combi VHD one. I'm really hoping it's not myxi :( how do you guys put pics up so that I can show you?
 
UD pictures

right now I know how to put pics up. I've just been out to take a few photo's. as you can appreciate it can be quite hard to take pics of buns and epec close ups :roll: I've tried my best....
this is Rosie and her scabby nose:

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this is Freddie and his sore looking nose... and also I think in the second pic his left side of his face seems a bit swollen:

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anymore thoughts after seeing a few pictures?
 
Hello

Hello, it's worth taking them to see a vet, is your vet rabbit savvy? Very pretty buns x


Steph_fuzzy239 said:
right now I know how to put pics up. I've just been out to take a few photo's. as you can appreciate it can be quite hard to take pics of buns and epec close ups :roll: I've tried my best....
this is Rosie and her scabby nose:

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this is Freddie and his sore looking nose... and also I think in the second pic his left side of his face seems a bit swollen:

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anymore thoughts after seeing a few pictures?
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I went to the vet yesterday to see if they could tell me what was wrong but he didn't really know and another vet there wasn't sure either As he wanted a second opinion :? The only thing I could do is ring the practice and ask if there are any vets that specialise in rabbits.... Or try a different vets.
Ps thank you :)
 
Looks very much like Myxi

hopefully it will just pass as they are jabbed but you need to take to a vet and get things like metacam (anti inflammatory) and an antibiotic in case of secondary infection.

Keep them warmer than you would normally, watch for signs of wheezing or snuffling, .

Are their genitals inflammed?

Post in rabbit chat for a rabbit savvy vet in your area. You will need one.
 
My initial thought before I saw the photos was syphillis, but I agree with Parsnipbun, those shaped scabs are absolute classic signs of nodular myxomatosis. My Harry had one nodule exactly like that on his nose, he was lucky, as he was fully vaccinated, he literally just got the one nodule...over a period of a couple of weeks it got more and more raised and then eventually it just fell off, leaving a gaping hole :shock: Because it had been raising up over a period of time, the skin underneath had already grown, for years he had a dent and scar on the end of his nose, though.

If your vets don't recognise this as a classic sign of nodular myxi, then personally I would recommend trying to find a different vet in the area who is better with bunnies. Fingers crossed your little ones won't develop any further lumps and bumps and will continue to be healthy and happy xxx
 
Steph_fuzzy239 said:
I went to the vet yesterday to see if they could tell me what was wrong but he didn't really know and another vet there wasn't sure either As he wanted a second opinion :? The only thing I could do is ring the practice and ask if there are any vets that specialise in rabbits.... Or try a different vets.
Ps thank you :)
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I'm really sorry but I agree that that looks like myxi BUT don't panic (I did) - nodular myxi isn't anywhere near as dangerous as full blown myxi.
Get them on antibiotics straightaway though. There's not really a lot you can do symptom wise with the nodular except antibiotics and metacam and close monitoring - my experience was that it took a while but the scabs eventually dried up and fell off. Java still has scarring from his experience, but in himself and in his general health he's fully recovered (his myxi was three years ago, so it doesn't seem to have affected his life span either).

This was Java at his worst - and Bubby had full myxi because she'd been vaccinated fewer times (she still made it through as well). You can see that the nose situation is pretty similar - Java's looks maybe a little worse than your Rosie.

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I think it is tough sometimes when you catch things very early as a few things can look similar initially. Nodular myxi would be a definite possibility - most vets won't see the sort of myxi you get in vaccinated rabbits because it's so uncommon so it doesn't surprise me they aren't sure. You might find it becomes clearer as it progresses over the next few days and what is just not quite right looking turned into an actual nodule.

I don't think it's fighting as it would be quite a coincidence for them to both have injuries there but none elsewhere. I think you'd see fur piles and bites to the rest of the body if they've fought bad enough to wound like that. As of course accident wouldn't apply to both too.

You can get sores with mites, but that's down to damage caused by scratching and I think you'd have noticed signs to go with it.

Syphilis would be a possibility as that may sores in that sort of area, I'd err more on the side of myxi though on the grounds that syphilis is less likely to present in two rabbits on the same day.

Both having had the combined jab, means even if it is myxi it's nothing like the sort of myxi you see in wild rabbits.
 
Thanks everyone. I'm going to try and get them booked into the vets ASAP, I'll try a vets that's in my village they are good just have rubbish opening times. I'll explain about nodular myxomatosis and hopefully get some antibiotics. I'm trying not to worry too much but it's bringing back memories of when I lost my first bunnies to full blown myxi and they didn't survive :(
 
Hey guys i have a slight update. Took them to a different vets tonight and they're still baffled however agreed it might be a type of myxi. She's taken photos and wants to show them to a small animal/rabbit specialist who she works with and see if he can shed any light on the situation. I have to take them back Thursday morning and in the mean time keep an eye on them. They've had antibiotics and pain relief for now. On further inspection Freddie's cheek/lip area that looks swollen there's a hard lump that seems quite crusty! :( I feel a bit helpless and confused atm!
 
That's good :) It really does sound/look like nodular myxi, so there isn't much other than the ab/painkillers you can do, just support them whilst their immune system fights it off and congratulate yourself on getting them vaccinated so they don't get the full blown stuff.

If I remember past cases it seems like it can take awhile 4-6 weeks to go through the whole disease cycle. But hopefully it will just be a case of a couple of scary looking lumps but not much else :)
 
Steph_fuzzy239 said:
Hey guys i have a slight update. Took them to a different vets tonight and they're still baffled however agreed it might be a type of myxi. She's taken photos and wants to show them to a small animal/rabbit specialist who she works with and see if he can shed any light on the situation. I have to take them back Thursday morning and in the mean time keep an eye on them. They've had antibiotics and pain relief for now. On further inspection Freddie's cheek/lip area that looks swollen there's a hard lump that seems quite crusty! :( I feel a bit helpless and confused atm!
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This really is something that a decent exotics vet should be able to identify instantly on sight (not the same thing as a small animals specialist who will see cats dogs etc).

They need constant pain relief and abx and also at some stages fluids and eye drops if it spreads.

I see you are in Hull and there must be someone on here that can recommend a better vet to you.

Can you post a thread asking for a good rabbit vet in or near Hull?
 
Tamsin said:
That's good :) It really does sound/look like nodular myxi, so there isn't much other than the ab/painkillers you can do, just support them whilst their immune system fights it off and congratulate yourself on getting them vaccinated so they don't get the full blown stuff.

If I remember past cases it seems like it can take awhile 4-6 weeks to go through the whole disease cycle. But hopefully it will just be a case of a couple of scary looking lumps but not much else :)
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Thank you Tamsin

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them both and hoping this other vet can help a bit more. She seemed very interested and willing to try and help as much as possible. In the mean time I've posted a thread on rabbit chat that might help find a vet in the area that know their rabbit stuff better though.
 
Hi parsnip bun I don't live in hull but live in a village 15 mins outside of hull and I don't drive which is y my options are pretty limited :? Plus I work full time as well which is really making things difficult however trying my best and hoping more of an outcome will come on thurs. also I've taken ur advice and put a thread on to try and find another vet within my area :)
 
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