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Intensive care bunny- some tips of mine

Luda

New Kit
Hello,
My name is Katie.
I recently joined the forum because my bunny has been super super ill (can't remember the name of the illness- will ref later, but it means she cannot absorb nutrients from her food) and when I took her to the vet they basicly told me that there was nothing I could do and my bunny will die.
Well this was a few months ago, my bunny luda has been very ill suffering symptoms of diarrhoea, bloating, constipation, lack of interest in food, extreme weight loss (she looks like an anorexic bun).
Two days ago I went to her cage in the morning and found her laying with her head down, shaking her head rapidly from side to side, she was disorientated, couldn't walk and wouldn't eat or drink. I was sure she had had a stroke. Since then I have been taking care of her and she is happily hopping about, cleaning herself and eating.
So I thought I would share some of my tips that I've been using to keep her alive, she is quite a happy and active bunny so I don't feel like I'm unfairly keeping her alive.
I'm not sure whether the things I've been doing are 'good bunny care' tips but in my case for my intensive care bun they have been working and I haven't had any better advice from my vet.
* things she CAN'T eat (she gets bloated/diarrhoea) any vegetables or grass or fruit.
*things she CAN eat - pellets, herbs of any kind and carrots.
*medicines- pro biotic from vets which is called fibreplex and one called metoclopramine syrup.
* When she won't drink I mix water with a little fruit juice (about 1 part to 5) and give it to her with a syringe.
* I wipe her bum every day with a cloth and some small animal shampoo, bathing her traumatises her and makes her too cold.
* she won't eat hay so I mix her pellets in with it in hope she might get some in there by mistake
* I give her some babies gripe water (a little lick of it) before she has her pellets in the morning and evening to help with gas and bloating.
* I made her a little bed next to the radiator so she can keep warm. I also give her a hot water bottle when I don't want the radiator on.
* she has a little salt lick so she is less malnourished (I noticed she was licking the brick wall a lot and thought she might be mineral deficient)

Luckily I work from home so I can care for her 24/7 when she's very sick. She still enjoys a run around for a few hours every day. I can't work out how she is still alive to be honest.
Does anyone have any tips they could add?
I am trying to help her put on weight, then I'm sure she would be a lot healthier, but I'm not sure how. I don't want to over feed her because she's always so hungry I'm frightened she would literally eat herself to death and rupture her stomach.

Are there any high calorie foods safe for rabbits?
Plus can you feed rabbits pro-biotics for humans? (maybe its a silly question) because the pro-biotic for rabbits is £20 a bottle.
:love: Katie
 
Hello

What diagnostics has the Vet done ?

Is your Rabbit receiving any analgesia ?

All the symptoms you describe sound like a problem with the Liver, has this been investigated ?
 
Glad to hear she's being well looked after :D but in my opinion you really need a better vet
 
The vet diagnosed her with tyzers disease. Its a bacteria picked up when they're nursing from their mothers. I bought her when I lived abroad in Holland and I don't think the breeders there are as careful at spotting these kinds of diseases there (just an assumption, sorry to any GOOD dutch breeders on here) she's a rescue bunny.
Her liver and kidney functions were fine.
So its basicly an incurable syndrome that she has, so I'm just trying to make her as comfortable with it as possible.
 
after reading a bit about tyzzers disease I think I agree I need a better vet. Its supposed to be contagious but luda has been living happily along side another rabbit for several months since she's been ill and the other bunny is fine, in fact she's incredibly stocky, healthy and bad tempered as always.
Plus it says death occurs 2 days after symptoms are first spotted and it effects the liver and luda is still alive o_O

no she didn't prescribe any antibiotics :( she said that there's nothing that can be done!!
 
It sounds similar to the condition my Snowdrop has. She also doesnt absorb nutrients properly, gets bloated often, has diahorrea and bouts of stasis. She can lose weight very quickly and needs alot of rest.

I do very similar things to you to help her and she has a good quality of life. She does like to sleep for most of the day but she gets her free range time about 4pm and she loves a good run round the garden and can be very cheeky!

Something I find helps with Snowdrop is give porridge made with warm water to help build her up when she is losing weight. She will also eat recovery food from a bowl so she has that when she isnt eating well. I mix banana with them to encourage her to eat it.
 
after reading a bit about tyzzers disease I think I agree I need a better vet. Its supposed to be contagious but luda has been living happily along side another rabbit for several months since she's been ill and the other bunny is fine, in fact she's incredibly stocky, healthy and bad tempered as always.
Plus it says death occurs 2 days after symptoms are first spotted and it effects the liver and luda is still alive o_O

no she didn't prescribe any antibiotics :( she said that there's nothing that can be done!!

If you say what area you are in maybe we could suggest a Bunny Savvy Vet ?
 
I'm in sheffield.
I'm so worried about her, she is bright and happy but looks like a skeleton.
I can't believe how tough she is.

Could you explain what recovery food is?
I will try feeding her some porridge with banana.
 
I'm in sheffield.
I'm so worried about her, she is bright and happy but looks like a skeleton.
I can't believe how tough she is.

Could you explain what recovery food is?
I will try feeding her some porridge with banana.

Recovery feed is a high in nutrients power that can be mixed with water to make a liquid feed to syringe to rabbits that are not eating. I make it with a little less water so its like a thick paste and Snowdrop will eat it from a bowl.
http://www.vetuk.co.uk/supreme-pet-...9_364/science-recovery-diet-10-sachets-p-1971

Could you ask your vet to referr you to a specialist? Snowdrop saw Frances Harcourt-Brown in Harrogate and was amazing.
 
thanks for your help :bunny:
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taking a nap in a plant pot :D
 
I'm so sorry to hear about your bunny :cry: I've no experience of the disease she's been diagnosed with, but wanted to let you know which vets we use as we're in Sheffield.

We use Crookes on Sheffield Road, Hackenthorpe - our main vet is called Jane Weller & she's always been very good with us & our bunnies :)

I believe other bunny savvy vets are Peak Vets at Woodseats & Vets4Pets on Abbeydale Road :)

Other people might be able to let you know of other bunny savvy vets in Sheffield :wave:

Good luck with your little girl xxx
 
When you speak to a vet ask them to research Megacolon. I have some info on it I can send you if you pm me your email address.

I am not a medical professional but you bunny does have the correct markings to be a higher risk of Megacolon and her symptoms are very similar to my Snowdrops.
 
When you speak to a vet ask them to research Megacolon. I have some info on it I can send you if you pm me your email address.

I am not a medical professional but you bunny does have the correct markings to be a higher risk of Megacolon and her symptoms are very similar to my Snowdrops.

Megacolon sounds more likely. I researched it a little and she's always done massive poo's with mucous compared to the other rabbit and her colouring looked exactly the same as another rabbit on here with the same problem.

Her problems kind of started when we got a new dog. She doesn't seem bothered by its presence, she ignores it where as the other rabbit stamps and growls at it. Could the dog be a problem?
 
Megacolon sounds more likely. I researched it a little and she's always done massive poo's with mucous compared to the other rabbit and her colouring looked exactly the same as another rabbit on here with the same problem.

Her problems kind of started when we got a new dog. She doesn't seem bothered by its presence, she ignores it where as the other rabbit stamps and growls at it. Could the dog be a problem?

There is my Snowdrop on here with the condition and Daisy Sunshine was also recently diagnosed (I cant remember her mums username though!).

I dont think the dog will have caused the problem, but the stress of it may have brought on her symptoms. I know my Snowdrops condition gets much worse with stress.
 
If you can get to Barnsley there is a rabbit specialist called Kathryn at Abbey Vets on Dodworth Road, we use them as our 24 hour cover for the business and have also used them for our own pets for the last 20 years. Tel: 01226 242217

If you need some Critical Care I have some of it home here and you are welcome to collect or I can put some in the post for you.
 
Just wanted to say you are doing an amazing job caring for her and she looks very cute in her plant pot! Really hope you manage to find a good bunny vet to help you!
 
good luck with Luda :wave: it sounds like you're really fighting for her. She's lucky to have you :love:

Snowberry, what do you mean by her markings having a higher risk? I have two buns with similar markings :shock: I'm worried now (sorry to hijack the thread slightly)
 
good luck with Luda :wave: it sounds like you're really fighting for her. She's lucky to have you :love:

Snowberry, what do you mean by her markings having a higher risk? I have two buns with similar markings :shock: I'm worried now (sorry to hijack the thread slightly)
It looks like bunnys who are white with black or brown rings round their eyes and spots on their back are more likely to have the disease. But luda has had unusual droppings since she was a tiny baby, so if your bunny has this I'm sure you would have already noticed.

Thanks everyone for your support <3
I know luda is probably not going to live for years and years, but I'm just glad she is my bunny and no one else's because I'm sure a lot of family's wouldn't put the effort in that she needs :( even though its tough on my heart strings!
My last bunny got eaten by a cat when it was a few months old- it snuck into my house through an old catflap :cry: so I haven't had much luck with them recently, although I've had bunnies all my life :D The other one, blueberry is fine and healthy though. Luda was the naughtiest bunny ever before she got sick she used to drive me crazy- chewed everything, refused to use her litter tray, attacked the smaller bunny and humped everything in sight. Was constantly in a bad mood and wouldn't let me pick her up! Now she is the sweetest bunny ever and follows me around everywhere! I have grown really close to her! :love:
 
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