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Wise Old Thumper
OK, when I picked up Kovu last night, I talked to the vet.
They couldn't find the mass of soft tissue that the emergency vets found, he said that's not to say it wasn't there though. He said Xrays don't often give a true reflection of what is going on, he said they could try scanning him, but again because they're hard to detect. He said the only way to know for sure was to cut him open and they wouldn't do that unless it was absoulty that last resort.
I said I'd been reading an article about bloat ( http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/ileus.html ) and it said that many buns have a reoccurrence soon after. He was like that is correct, which is why he's got to go back on Saturday. Anyway I asked why this could be and he said, it's normally a symptom for some other underlying problem, I asked what like and he said tumours (now I'd been told this by a completely different vet practise when Marley was ill with bloat).
I said that the article said that hairballs being a myth(I was thinking about Delilah's death and wondering that, because Kovu's having a really bad moult, could it be that?) he said he whole heartedly agreed with that, he said to me to think about how many rabbits there are around in moult and that there was only mine in with bloat.
He said he couldn't guarantee that Kovu will remain well, but they've tried to find the reason for his bloat and find the original mass, but can't. He said it could of been an inflammation of the wall, but it had reduced in size.
He said also bloat could of been cause by him wolfing his food, he said rabbits gas is different to ours and it's very frothy and that's why it's dangerous.
To be honest Kovu is a pig, he lives with four other buns and three are bigger than him. All their food is weighed out and he's fat why'll the others are quite slim, so I guess he's getting through their share. He's always the first in the bowl too and scoffing the veg, he's very greedy, maybe he feels he has to race them to eat the food?
He didn't mention veggie's causing bloat, in fact he was quite insistent that it's normally a sign of other things.
Now a lot of this kind of rings true to me, in the months up-to Marley's Death, I think there was 3/4/5 times (not sure if the actual number without checking my old posts) where he went into statis, twice he had to go to vets for metacam and metoclop (sp?), the other time he had some kittymalt/infacol which brought him round.
I spoke to someone last night, who did put my mind at rest a bit, she said they're covering their own backs, which makes sense. I guess if Kovu died now and it was from a tumour and I went mad, saying how come the emergency vet saw it and you didn't, they can say "yep we told you that could happen"
and Carys pointed out this morning, re hair, that many people would just find their bunny dead and unless you knew that turning their nose up at food was a major thing, you would probably think bun was ok. So many case may not even get reported to the vets as bunny wouldn't get pm.
When I brought Kovu home last night, he still didn't seem right, he was lying down in his litter tray for a few minutes, like he was shattered (I can't stress enough this isn't normal for him). He was up and about soon afterwards, but this could of been to all the gut starters he has had.
This morning he was fine and straight in the ready grass, I'm going to put a drop of liquid paraffin on his pellets when I get in.
What are our thoughts on this?
Thanks
They couldn't find the mass of soft tissue that the emergency vets found, he said that's not to say it wasn't there though. He said Xrays don't often give a true reflection of what is going on, he said they could try scanning him, but again because they're hard to detect. He said the only way to know for sure was to cut him open and they wouldn't do that unless it was absoulty that last resort.
I said I'd been reading an article about bloat ( http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/ileus.html ) and it said that many buns have a reoccurrence soon after. He was like that is correct, which is why he's got to go back on Saturday. Anyway I asked why this could be and he said, it's normally a symptom for some other underlying problem, I asked what like and he said tumours (now I'd been told this by a completely different vet practise when Marley was ill with bloat).
I said that the article said that hairballs being a myth(I was thinking about Delilah's death and wondering that, because Kovu's having a really bad moult, could it be that?) he said he whole heartedly agreed with that, he said to me to think about how many rabbits there are around in moult and that there was only mine in with bloat.
He said he couldn't guarantee that Kovu will remain well, but they've tried to find the reason for his bloat and find the original mass, but can't. He said it could of been an inflammation of the wall, but it had reduced in size.
He said also bloat could of been cause by him wolfing his food, he said rabbits gas is different to ours and it's very frothy and that's why it's dangerous.
To be honest Kovu is a pig, he lives with four other buns and three are bigger than him. All their food is weighed out and he's fat why'll the others are quite slim, so I guess he's getting through their share. He's always the first in the bowl too and scoffing the veg, he's very greedy, maybe he feels he has to race them to eat the food?
He didn't mention veggie's causing bloat, in fact he was quite insistent that it's normally a sign of other things.
Now a lot of this kind of rings true to me, in the months up-to Marley's Death, I think there was 3/4/5 times (not sure if the actual number without checking my old posts) where he went into statis, twice he had to go to vets for metacam and metoclop (sp?), the other time he had some kittymalt/infacol which brought him round.
I spoke to someone last night, who did put my mind at rest a bit, she said they're covering their own backs, which makes sense. I guess if Kovu died now and it was from a tumour and I went mad, saying how come the emergency vet saw it and you didn't, they can say "yep we told you that could happen"
and Carys pointed out this morning, re hair, that many people would just find their bunny dead and unless you knew that turning their nose up at food was a major thing, you would probably think bun was ok. So many case may not even get reported to the vets as bunny wouldn't get pm.
When I brought Kovu home last night, he still didn't seem right, he was lying down in his litter tray for a few minutes, like he was shattered (I can't stress enough this isn't normal for him). He was up and about soon afterwards, but this could of been to all the gut starters he has had.
This morning he was fine and straight in the ready grass, I'm going to put a drop of liquid paraffin on his pellets when I get in.
What are our thoughts on this?
Thanks
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I'm afraid I don't know about bloat etc but paraffin is poisonous to humans - is the same not true for buns?
