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U/D Vibes for Henry please -New 6th FebU/D after vet

Felt sad last night as Henry still lame and struggling. Bad nights sleep due to an outbreak of man- flu so had another pre work dose this morning. Then I observed what I considered to be perhaps a tiny glimmer of positive. Henry had another wonder over to the settee and then he had a big nethie stretch and during this lunge, he appeared to put an element of his body weight on the injured paw. Now I don't know what exact weight he put on, or how hard he pressed, but he did appear to at least feel as though it was stable to use.
I need to make further observations tonight when I get home via a chemist where I shall be investing in a bulk purchase of lemsip and other man flu type remedies.
 
Felt sad last night as Henry still lame and struggling. Bad nights sleep due to an outbreak of man- flu so had another pre work dose this morning. Then I observed what I considered to be perhaps a tiny glimmer of positive. Henry had another wonder over to the settee and then he had a big nethie stretch and during this lunge, he appeared to put an element of his body weight on the injured paw. Now I don't know what exact weight he put on, or how hard he pressed, but he did appear to at least feel as though it was stable to use.
I need to make further observations tonight when I get home via a chemist where I shall be investing in a bulk purchase of lemsip and other man flu type remedies.

oh now thats more positive - and hope your man flu soon shifts :love:
 
Felt sad last night as Henry still lame and struggling. Bad nights sleep due to an outbreak of man- flu so had another pre work dose this morning. Then I observed what I considered to be perhaps a tiny glimmer of positive. Henry had another wonder over to the settee and then he had a big nethie stretch and during this lunge, he appeared to put an element of his body weight on the injured paw. Now I don't know what exact weight he put on, or how hard he pressed, but he did appear to at least feel as though it was stable to use.
I need to make further observations tonight when I get home via a chemist where I shall be investing in a bulk purchase of lemsip and other man flu type remedies.
I hope this is good and it continues :)

Sorry you're sick! Night nurse is always a good but lethal shout [emoji38]
 
I hope that you see more positive improvements in Henry, and I’m sending lots of vibes that you feel better soon xx
 
Just when I had a glimmer of positiveness with Henry, things just take a turn possibly for the worse. Tonight when I got home, things were ok with Henry and Lillian. Both came into the living room and sat as usual under the table. I cleaned then out and sorted out other things and sat down after tea and checked Henry. He was washing his face but seemed to have these clumpy white sticky bits on his right eye. When we got Henry, we noticed he had a discharge from his eye and he spent about 6 weeks back at the vet via the rescue centre, flushing out Henry's tear ducts. Poor Henry went through 4 or 5 ops under GA and their rabbit savvy vet to clean out the tear ducts. We've kept an eye on him in the year we've had him and kept it clean.
So tonight there's these soft white bits on it so I decided to try to clean the eye area. I noticed more bits of this white stuff on the back of his body - which was odd. I continued to gently bathe his eye and he seemed to want to keep it closed so I figured something was not right. The lid felt sticky. But I continued to wash it with warm water & cotton wool. Then I sat with him on my tummy just gently massaging his face and especially his eyes. Gently stroking in circular motions - my bridge bun Ben loved this every night. Henry was making grinding noises with his teeth - which isn't usually a great sign (it can be a good sign but I figured on this occasion it wasn't). As I gently massaged the right eye, I noticed more of these sticky white clumpy things and just deep down I knew this was something more. So I very gently pressed at the corner of his eye where the tear duct is and there was thsi popping noise and a whole load of clumpy white sticky goop popped out. I cant describe how I felt and how sick with worry I was. I figured the tear duct was probably blocked and this was an infection. Then I gently squeezed twice more and two more blobs of goo popped out. I've cleaned out the eye as best I can and I'm confident that I got it all out, but obviously the goop is near and/or on his eye.
So I phoned the vet, flapping big style and almost in tears. The vet was prepared to see Henry tonight but said she would prefer to give him a GA which she cannot do tonight. The best she couls offer was antibiotics which she said wouldn't really be much point tonight so she wants me to take Henry tomorow morning 1st thing where we'll decide if he needs a GA and further exploration or if she feels I've done the job and got the goop out - in which case we'll just have antibiotics to sweep out any infection.
But - and it's only a but, if the vet feels a need to administer GA then I will request an xray on his leg at the same time so that I get a definitive identification on any problem with the bone in his left paw. It will save having Henry endure a GA twice.
I feel physically sick with worry now. It's just one thing on top of another with poor Henry and he must be so uncomfortable.
I'm going to go and give his eye another good wash just to try to help things as best I can and hope that I can make it clean for Henry.
I just want to sit in a corner and sob my eyes out now.
I will update the thread tomorrow after the vets visit.
Craig x
 
:( i was just looking at another thread with a poorly eye. Chester had that.
i think you did really well getting the yuk out. do you bathe it with salty water?

pm me your phone# craig if you want
 
Just when I had a glimmer of positiveness with Henry, things just take a turn possibly for the worse. Tonight when I got home, things were ok with Henry and Lillian. Both came into the living room and sat as usual under the table. I cleaned then out and sorted out other things and sat down after tea and checked Henry. He was washing his face but seemed to have these clumpy white sticky bits on his right eye. When we got Henry, we noticed he had a discharge from his eye and he spent about 6 weeks back at the vet via the rescue centre, flushing out Henry's tear ducts. Poor Henry went through 4 or 5 ops under GA and their rabbit savvy vet to clean out the tear ducts. We've kept an eye on him in the year we've had him and kept it clean.
So tonight there's these soft white bits on it so I decided to try to clean the eye area. I noticed more bits of this white stuff on the back of his body - which was odd. I continued to gently bathe his eye and he seemed to want to keep it closed so I figured something was not right. The lid felt sticky. But I continued to wash it with warm water & cotton wool. Then I sat with him on my tummy just gently massaging his face and especially his eyes. Gently stroking in circular motions - my bridge bun Ben loved this every night. Henry was making grinding noises with his teeth - which isn't usually a great sign (it can be a good sign but I figured on this occasion it wasn't). As I gently massaged the right eye, I noticed more of these sticky white clumpy things and just deep down I knew this was something more. So I very gently pressed at the corner of his eye where the tear duct is and there was thsi popping noise and a whole load of clumpy white sticky goop popped out. I cant describe how I felt and how sick with worry I was. I figured the tear duct was probably blocked and this was an infection. Then I gently squeezed twice more and two more blobs of goo popped out. I've cleaned out the eye as best I can and I'm confident that I got it all out, but obviously the goop is near and/or on his eye.
So I phoned the vet, flapping big style and almost in tears. The vet was prepared to see Henry tonight but said she would prefer to give him a GA which she cannot do tonight. The best she couls offer was antibiotics which she said wouldn't really be much point tonight so she wants me to take Henry tomorow morning 1st thing where we'll decide if he needs a GA and further exploration or if she feels I've done the job and got the goop out - in which case we'll just have antibiotics to sweep out any infection.
But - and it's only a but, if the vet feels a need to administer GA then I will request an xray on his leg at the same time so that I get a definitive identification on any problem with the bone in his left paw. It will save having Henry endure a GA twice.
I feel physically sick with worry now. It's just one thing on top of another with poor Henry and he must be so uncomfortable.
I'm going to go and give his eye another good wash just to try to help things as best I can and hope that I can make it clean for Henry.
I just want to sit in a corner and sob my eyes out now.
I will update the thread tomorrow after the vets visit.
Craig x


Craig, it sounds as if poor Henry's immune system has taken a downturn and he now has a bacterial eye infection (conjunctivitis).

Many vets can flush the tear duct without sedation, and in fact it's something I can do at home (my vet has given me all the kit!). You can also get antibiotic eye drops from the vet which work better than systemic abx such as Baytril etc.

Really, please don't worry about it. He will get better. Be positive and have hope for your little man.

Also, I am sorry to hear of your man-flu. Your immune system has taken a nose dive as well x
 
Oh poor Henry :( I'm sorry to read this update. I've no experience with this but I remember you having the problem with his tear ducts when you first rescued him.

Sending loads of vibes for his vet visit tomorrow. Hopefully the vet will be able to sort him out and yes, possibly also put your mind at rest about his paw with an x-ray.

I hope that you have a good night's rest and feel lots better in the morning.
 
I'm really sorry poor Henry is now having problems with his eye on top of everything else. From your description it does sound as though it's an infection as a result of a blocked tear duct.

I know it's really upsetting but there are positives you can take from this. If they put him under GA for a tear duct flush you can grab the opportunity to get a scan done to see if there is an underlying issue with his paw. Then you will at least know exactly what you're dealing with.

Secondly, my first bun Scrappy suffered a lot with blocked tear ducts. With prompt treatment this is easily fixed. A tear duct flush will certainly help. Also ask your vet about antibiotic cover. Scrappy was initially prescribed baytril and then septrin. Neither did anything. She was then put on injectable penicillin and eye drops and the infection cleared up beautifully.

Lots of vibes for you both tonight xx

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Thank you so much scrappy- I'm just quietly sobbing my eyes out.
But you've given me some comfort from the tear duct issue and the fact it can be resolved without him having to possibly lose an eye or something is comforting me now. I just wish him to be better and yes I was thinking to get his leg looked at at the same time.
Thank you scrappy and thank you everyone for the continued vibes. I do very much appreciate it.
Craig x
 
What a horrible time you are all having :(

I don't have any advice but I am thinking you and the bunnies, and really hope everything goes well at the vets.
He seems to be a tough little thing and you are doing the best you possibly can for him. It will be ok :)
 
I don’t have any experience of this but it sounds like you did a great job of cleaning him up, and I’m sure he will be feeling better for it. I hope that everything goes smoothly at the vets, it sounds like a common routine thing so please try not to worry. Sending more vibes and hugs xx
 
So sorry to hear this latest update Craig, really hope the vets visit goes ok. Henry obviously really trusts you to let you clear his little eye out like that, and you obviously really love him, you are doing a great job. Look after yourself too, big hug xxxx
 
Update after vets visit. I got 2 hours sleep last night, in between sobbing, sniffing (man flu) and sheer worry and concern about Henry. More discharge from his eye this morning which I cleaned out but Henry looking very depressed and just so sad.
Vet was anothehr really nice, sympathetic and understanding vet (inbetween my bouts of sobbing). She got more goopy stuff out (shows how useless I am) and after some careful and considerate discussion, she suggested the best route forward in this instance was to go with daily penicillan injections (thank you a million times Scrappys little helper). It's called penicillian G (or something that sounded like that). Henry behaved beautifully - as he usually does, but he really is quite unwell. He has lost more weight since last week - now down to 1.9kg and he was 2kg last week. The vet felt the penicillian was the best way to attack the tear duct infection at this stage, rather than a GA. There was no obvious abcess she could see or feel from the external part of his face, but Henry was most reluctant to allow an internal teeth check. I think he'd just had enough of being prodded and squeezed.
We have to take him back tomorrow and sunday and monday for follow up injections since I would be no use whatsoever at injections and I just feel a complete loss of confidence right now inmy ability to look after an empty room, let alone a bunny that needs me. So the vet is happy to do the injections. On Sunday we see the vet who is monitoring Henry's leg so that's quite a good shout. We will see what she thinks about the situation at that point. On Monday I am seeing the vet exotic specialist whom I've not seen before so hopefully she might be able to give me some guidance and help for a way forward. The vet today reckoned the penicillian would take 24/48 hours to take effect and I am to continue to bath the eye as necessary.
Everything normal now is secondary for me as Henry's welfare MUST take priority in my life - he deserves that from me. The vet is confident - very confident of a complete recovery from the infection and dismissed any thoughts about losing the eye or sight - I was concerned that the matter being removed from the eye would cause secondary infection but she assured me the penicillian would combat this.
So, I've got Henry losing weight, limping and with a tear duct infection. I know you will all say it's not my fault and I'm doing a great job but clearly I'm not. I just hope and pray I get my Henry back.
Henry and Lillian are under the table in the living room as I am off work this morning so they are having extra time with me. The heating is on and trying to get the room cosy and I'm now off to try to get some sleep on the sofa with the duvet, box of tissues to dry my eyes, and some cold remedies.
Thank you all so much again for following and sending your wishes and support. I know in his little heart Henry would say a huge thank you to you all.
Craig xx
 
I have always found Penicillin injections really fast-working and effective when treating my rabbits in the past, so I'm hoping that the same will be so for Henry's eye. It's also useful that Henry will see a vet each day to monitor his progress and also his paw.

I hope you manage to get some rest today. It's rotten to have a poorly rabbit and feel rubbish yourself.
 
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