She showed the exact same issues internally as Acorn confirming the deaths are all linked. The managed to get some viable cultures to try and grow so this will go to the lab, I can only hope I don't lose any more whilst we are waiting. My vet is going to contact Richard Saunders to see if he has any suggestions on any way to protect the others.
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PM Results and further loss
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Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
I really hope that Richard can offer some advice as to what may be going on. The situation is the absolute nightmare of anyone who has numerous Rabbits. I so hope that all of your other Rabbits remain well.
Are you in a very rural area ?
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
Has the Vet mentioned starting all of your remaining Rabbits on a broad spectrum abx (eg Baytril) in the interim until the most recent lab reports are available ? Obviously that is treating 'blind' so to speak, but I just wondered if it might be an appropriate measure in the circumstances xx
biscandmatt1
Wise Old Thumper
i really am so very sorry. must be absolutely heartbreaking for you 
I asked but they were reluctant without knowing what we are dealing with. I also am not sure on the implications it would have if this nightmare continues and we need more samples - I presume those treated with antibiotics would skew the results. I know I shouldn't think like that but I suspect my vets are as they look at the bigger picture and don't have the emotional attachment.
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
Amy has already said the PM ruled that out, I assume she was referring to both strains
parsnipbun
Wise Old Thumper
I am so very very sorry to hear that you have had another loss. I hope for your sake and the other buns that the cause can be identified asap.
MightyMax
Banned
Amy I am so very sorry to read this
That's absolutely dreadful.I do hope Richard can throw some light on matters. It's very mysterious and devastatingly worrying for you of course.
Sending hugs and vibes ...... xx
Had a thought - have you had your domestic water supply tested?
There was an issue a while ago with some county's water supply being corrupted and they had to boil it for months.
If your water has been contaminated not enough to affect humans but enough to affect rabbits ... it's worth a shot.
There was an issue a while ago with some county's water supply being corrupted and they had to boil it for months.
If your water has been contaminated not enough to affect humans but enough to affect rabbits ... it's worth a shot.
Mmm, I was just thinking about this being a possibility. Have any neighbours lost any pets
I really hope you can get to the bottom of it xxparsnipbun
Wise Old Thumper
do you feed them some of the same hay and food? In which case that would narrow it down as well - to something specifically bunny.
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
Did the Vet who did Acorn's PM give an explanation as to what specifically indicated signs of 'chronic bacterial infection ?' I ask as one thing that can cause sudden death is septicaemia- AKA 'Acute Septicaemic Syndrome' Pasteurella can be one of the bacteria involved. Effected Rabbits can show no obvious clinical symptoms of chronic infection until becoming acutely ill due to septicaemia.
Re Pasteurellosis :
Sudden death.
Usually seen following a stressful experience.
Septicaemia may occur as a sequel other forms of pasteurellosis (particularly rhinitis and pneumonia) and is potentially fatal. Clinical signs of septicaemia are not usually seen because death occurs so rapidly.
Full details here:
http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00dis/Bacterial/Pasteurellosis_lagomorphs.htm
Streptococcol infection can also cause acute septicaemia. Streptococcosis is seldom reported in Rabbits, but it used to be and Water Fowl are frequently effected.
An acute septicaemic syndrome: there have been several reports of this syndrome occurring in rabbits (particularly young rabbits) prior to 1950. However, in recent decades there have been no reports of this syndrome.
Full details here:
http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00dis/Bacterial/Streptococcosis.htm
You say you are located near a River ??????????????
Re Pasteurellosis :
Sudden death.
Usually seen following a stressful experience.
Septicaemia may occur as a sequel other forms of pasteurellosis (particularly rhinitis and pneumonia) and is potentially fatal. Clinical signs of septicaemia are not usually seen because death occurs so rapidly.
Full details here:
http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00dis/Bacterial/Pasteurellosis_lagomorphs.htm
Streptococcol infection can also cause acute septicaemia. Streptococcosis is seldom reported in Rabbits, but it used to be and Water Fowl are frequently effected.
An acute septicaemic syndrome: there have been several reports of this syndrome occurring in rabbits (particularly young rabbits) prior to 1950. However, in recent decades there have been no reports of this syndrome.
Full details here:
http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00dis/Bacterial/Streptococcosis.htm
You say you are located near a River ??????????????
