I am sure she won't mind another one.
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A slight gripe about rescue centres
- Thread starter loobie_lou
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I am sure she won't mind another one.
loobie_lou
Mama Doe
Lol, what do you have an in mind??
Message me with details... I'd like to help as many rescues as possible. Obviously I work, but I spend a bit too much time on here of late if you ask me lol
Hi Lou,
I'm impressed by the clarity of your points for discussion here
However, playing devils advocat, I'd probably pre-judge Uni students purely on the basis of time required for the amount of studying they have to do and needing a job in order to survive (again taking up time)........ it doesn't leave much time in the day for looking after pets.
Obvioulsy a pet lover would forgo a social life as there just isn't enough hours in the day.
So sorry but if I ran a rescue, I'd be sceptical of students being able to fulfil most of if not all a bunnys needs.
Rgds
I'm impressed by the clarity of your points for discussion here
However, playing devils advocat, I'd probably pre-judge Uni students purely on the basis of time required for the amount of studying they have to do and needing a job in order to survive (again taking up time)........ it doesn't leave much time in the day for looking after pets.Obvioulsy a pet lover would forgo a social life as there just isn't enough hours in the day.
So sorry but if I ran a rescue, I'd be sceptical of students being able to fulfil most of if not all a bunnys needs.
Rgds
Deelove
Wise Old Thumper
Hi Lou,
I'm impressed by the clarity of your points for discussion here
Obvioulsy a pet lover would forgo a social life as there just isn't enough hours in the day.
So sorry but if I ran a rescue, I'd be sceptical of students being able to fulfil most of if not all a bunnys needs.
Rgds
I think it's a bit silly to say that you can't have a pet and a social life, whether student or not. I had Molly during uni, he lived in my room and so I spent a lot of time with him whilst I was studying. Having to work and have a job actually leaves you with less time to look after pets than being a student IMO.
Sorry but my silliness was based on wintessing the experiences of my niece and nephew, both university students. I saw the amount of studying they had to do (and the time it took) as well as the part time jobs they did as well. As a result, much as they loved animals and had always cared for pets, they knew there was not enough hours in the day for work/ study/ socialising /sleep/ pets.
By the way, I wouldn't have thought that you could socialise much with Molly if you were studying.. if you could you wouldn't be studying very hard and I don't want to get in an arguement of wasting taxpayers money....
Bavarian Bunny
Wise Old Thumper
It probably depends on what you study and how much money you get from your parents. I had my masters degree financed by my parents, I only had some jobs during the long holidays. During term I had more than 40 hours of classes and lab work per week, plus a language course and all the writing down of lab results. But there were more than enough students in my apartment block that were sleeping until noon and then had loud parties all night. Not sure when they did their work or what they studied, but they were definitely not in the science department.
Now I have two children and a part time job, a whole house rather than a bedsit to clean, and a garden to look after. But I am working from home, so I still have a lot more time for my bunnies than I would have had as a student.
Now I have two children and a part time job, a whole house rather than a bedsit to clean, and a garden to look after. But I am working from home, so I still have a lot more time for my bunnies than I would have had as a student.
oscarbunny
Warren Veteran
I think that perhaps students living in university regulated rented acommodation may be a bit risky, due to them sharing the flat with other people who may not like or understand bunnies. Plus bunnies may not be allowed in the flat and this may lead to them being rehomed. I do think money is an issue though, if you dont have enough to cover emergancy vet fees, then you shouldnt have a bun.
I am a student living in rented house but i work all weekend, and my o/h used to be a student but is now a teacher. I get no money from my parents, never have. I work my **** off when i am at uni, and its very time consuming, but i always spend time with my buns. I love them!
I understand why rescues would be cautious about students wanting to adopt a bun, but i dont think they should rule them out completely. There are plently of rescues that can be contacted through the forum that would consider students.
I am a student living in rented house but i work all weekend, and my o/h used to be a student but is now a teacher. I get no money from my parents, never have. I work my **** off when i am at uni, and its very time consuming, but i always spend time with my buns. I love them!
I understand why rescues would be cautious about students wanting to adopt a bun, but i dont think they should rule them out completely. There are plently of rescues that can be contacted through the forum that would consider students.
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
I agree. Also, its not necessarily being told that a certain rescue wont rehome to students but HOW that message is told.
TBH I often think that SOME rescues (of all animals not just Rabbits) can be intimidating.
Janex
loobie_lou
Mama Doe
I definately wish I'd have consulted this forum before I got my first bunny who was put to sleep. I did have all the intention of getting a rabbit from a rescue centre... but the place where I went to put me off. I honestly felt like I was being interrogated, despite being serious about wanting a rabbit.
I know I could have waited, but I went to P@H after visiting the rescue and Jamie was on her own... so I took her, and thankfully she's ok so far.
I know that the people who work in the rescues will be totally passionate about any animal they look after, lets be honest... they have to be if they're doing something for nothing other than for someone, in this case rabbits.
I know this rescue were just following their procedures, but maybe there was a better way around it? I'm not sure, the guy was lovely though who took me around and showed me the bunnies... I just guess I weren't meant to get that bunny.
I know I could have waited, but I went to P@H after visiting the rescue and Jamie was on her own... so I took her, and thankfully she's ok so far.
I know that the people who work in the rescues will be totally passionate about any animal they look after, lets be honest... they have to be if they're doing something for nothing other than for someone, in this case rabbits.
I know this rescue were just following their procedures, but maybe there was a better way around it? I'm not sure, the guy was lovely though who took me around and showed me the bunnies... I just guess I weren't meant to get that bunny.
Loobie lou - hi. From your thread, Im not getting that ............. actually said you could not adopt one of their animals. You had chosen a bunny and were planning a homecheck, but changed your mind about continuing because you felt that they had made an assumption about you. I can imagine your frustration at not wanting to be stereotyped, but you could have altered that opinion by allowing the homecheck to take place and perservered with the procedures the rescue has in place for rehoming its animals.
Again, we are naming a rescue in a negative light through the eyes of one individual and it is so wrong. The perception we could have is of a rescue that is neglectful of its animals, allowing them to be overweight. No one knows why this bunny is overweight, it could have come in that way from its previous life. I think this thread needs to be edited and the rescue's name removed.
Im all for outing abuse cases whether it is from breeders, hoarders, or rescuers, but we do need to be very careful.
Again, we are naming a rescue in a negative light through the eyes of one individual and it is so wrong. The perception we could have is of a rescue that is neglectful of its animals, allowing them to be overweight. No one knows why this bunny is overweight, it could have come in that way from its previous life. I think this thread needs to be edited and the rescue's name removed.
Im all for outing abuse cases whether it is from breeders, hoarders, or rescuers, but we do need to be very careful.
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loobie_lou
Mama Doe
Raine, thank you for commenting on the thread.
As I have stated throughout this thread, I am not critising the centre itself... I am merely suggesting that maybe the vetting procedure for students, such as myself, is maybe too strict and will put people off. As I left the centre I was told my case would go to a panel... who would then decide if I were suitable. So it wasn't a case of them deciding on the home visit - I had to be discussed infront of a panel of trustees, who knew nothing about me. The guy taking me round didn't even take notes... so based on my status I am betting that they would have rejected me anyway.
I have edited the thread, however, and the name has been removed - but it was not my intention to have a go at the centre.
But, in reply to your comment about not knowing why the rabbit was the size of a fully grown cat... it is because, and the guy taking me round said "the vet warns me that they're over weight, but i don't care as I like to treat them."
So please don't think I'm coming on here critisising... as I am not. I appreciate that the work rescue centre staff has to do must be very demanding, and that they obviously want the best for the animals. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt 'vetted' as I do... and I appreciate the responses from people who run and work in rescue homes.
As I have stated throughout this thread, I am not critising the centre itself... I am merely suggesting that maybe the vetting procedure for students, such as myself, is maybe too strict and will put people off. As I left the centre I was told my case would go to a panel... who would then decide if I were suitable. So it wasn't a case of them deciding on the home visit - I had to be discussed infront of a panel of trustees, who knew nothing about me. The guy taking me round didn't even take notes... so based on my status I am betting that they would have rejected me anyway.
I have edited the thread, however, and the name has been removed - but it was not my intention to have a go at the centre.
But, in reply to your comment about not knowing why the rabbit was the size of a fully grown cat... it is because, and the guy taking me round said "the vet warns me that they're over weight, but i don't care as I like to treat them."
So please don't think I'm coming on here critisising... as I am not. I appreciate that the work rescue centre staff has to do must be very demanding, and that they obviously want the best for the animals. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt 'vetted' as I do... and I appreciate the responses from people who run and work in rescue homes.
cannonwoman
Warren Veteran
What if it is a veterinary surgeon`s opinion too?
Yes, but be prepared that some people will not accept ANY rescue being criticised, even without knowing the facts!:?
I am not a rescue but i care for quite a large number of my own animals a majority of which i have adopted from rescues or directly rescued myself & also have 3 foster buns. Yes i have had homechecks done, including a reference from my vet, these may seem imtimadating but as Snowy has said `the rabbit`s welfare is the priority`.
As & when i am in the position to help anymore animals i will continue to go along the rescue route (despite recent events) & hope you too Looby-Lou will too. Please don`t let one bad experience put you off. Various rescues have different criteria & sometimes you do have to go further afield depending which area you are in but there are many good rescues out there.
Best wishes,
Su.x
This guy really needs to be told he's killing the rabbits - they can't keep themselves clean, are at risk of flystrike, can't eat their poops, puts a strain on their joints, their heart, and their liver, and makes it impossible for anyone adopting to get them neutered safely - what is he thinking? :shock:
'Naming and shaming' is not acceptable on the forum.
This is for two main reasons:
1. Unless you have seen with your own eyes AND discussed it with the person, you do not have the full story - and even then you may not.
2. It's not usually the best way to go about solving an issue. As soon as you start publicly critizing people the chances or working with them to make improvements usually goes straight out the window.
If you need advice on a problem/issue or how you could help change thing then that's fine - we'd love to help - but there is no need to drag names in to it.
I hope that clarify's things for everyone.
This is for two main reasons:
1. Unless you have seen with your own eyes AND discussed it with the person, you do not have the full story - and even then you may not.
2. It's not usually the best way to go about solving an issue. As soon as you start publicly critizing people the chances or working with them to make improvements usually goes straight out the window.
If you need advice on a problem/issue or how you could help change thing then that's fine - we'd love to help - but there is no need to drag names in to it.
I hope that clarify's things for everyone.
loobie_lou
Mama Doe
I'm sorry for what has turned out to be a bit of a debate. I shouldn't have mentioned names initially, but I have edited my thread so that no names are shown.
I shouldn't have posted the thread, but I wanted to know what other people thought and get some constructive feedback from rescues... which I have, especially from people operating rescues themselves. There's good and bad in everything, not everything in life is perfect and just and I'm pretty sure that some of these rescues would welcome this kind of feedback that I have offered.
I shall write to this particular rescue, merely suggesting a few things that I have picked up from this forum.
I'm just sorry if people think that I've created this for an argument, because that isn't the case at all. This forum is a godsend for people like me, who know little about rabbits but who are passionate about them and are wanting to learn more and help with rescues ect. We're all here for the same thing, and we all have our own opinions. I'm just thankful I got to voice mine
xx
I shouldn't have posted the thread, but I wanted to know what other people thought and get some constructive feedback from rescues... which I have, especially from people operating rescues themselves. There's good and bad in everything, not everything in life is perfect and just and I'm pretty sure that some of these rescues would welcome this kind of feedback that I have offered.
I shall write to this particular rescue, merely suggesting a few things that I have picked up from this forum.
I'm just sorry if people think that I've created this for an argument, because that isn't the case at all. This forum is a godsend for people like me, who know little about rabbits but who are passionate about them and are wanting to learn more and help with rescues ect. We're all here for the same thing, and we all have our own opinions. I'm just thankful I got to voice mine
xx
Deelove
Wise Old Thumper
Where do people generally study then? I did the great majority of mine in my bedroom, with Molly in said bedroom. But then I did English lit which i guess is not a very practical subject, most of my studying involved reading and writing essays. I only had a job non-term time and lived off my student loan which I have to pay back. So yes, I do believe I had more time to spend with Molly than I do now I'm working, as my work was done from home.
loobie_lou
Mama Doe
Just one more thing to add... surely if someone can't afford a rabbits keep, etc, would go to a pet shop anywhere? My local, where I purchased Kitt from, charged me £18.50 for her. Had I have gotten the bun I wanted from the rescue centre I'd have had to have paid £30 for the adoption fee, and me and Hawys had discussed putting down a further £20 to go towards the upkeep of the other rabbits.
I think the majority of people who go by a rescue, and are expected to make a minimum donation of £30 and up to £65 for a pair of spayed/neutered rabbits, must know what they're doing to some respect... when pet shops are selling them, as babies - when they have the most 'Awww' factor, for a fraction of that cost. Someone I know, who has had her rabbit for a few years now hasn't even got theirs vaccinated OR spayed... so I'm assuming this is from being ill informed and lack of the right knowledge, courtesy of the pet shop she bought her from, but that rescue centres set to provide you with?
With respect to students (as I am a student I may be slightly biased, lol) not all students are the same. I've learned that although I'm at uni to get a degree, and make something of my life... I have to work hard with with the work I'm given, AND even harder with my job to fund myself to stay at uni. I don't dedicate all my time to my work, and I would never neglect my bunnies. When the work starts flooding in, in September, I will allow them free reign of the bedroom - much like they're starting to have now... and I will be sat in the bedroom with them, but doing my studies and, when I take breaks, I will be spending time with them. As I'm going in to my 3rd year socialising isn't at the top of my agenda... uni work is. My bunnies are insured and they also are set to have a bank account between Hawys and I as she is moving to Bristol for university, so financially they are covered for the rest of there life as we're both going to put £10 each in the account every month, even if we split we've both promised each other, as they are our babies
Where there's a will, there's a way. I have a massive passion for animals, which is making me think I should have listened to people when I were younger who recognised this, and I couldn't imagine my life without one.
I think the majority of people who go by a rescue, and are expected to make a minimum donation of £30 and up to £65 for a pair of spayed/neutered rabbits, must know what they're doing to some respect... when pet shops are selling them, as babies - when they have the most 'Awww' factor, for a fraction of that cost. Someone I know, who has had her rabbit for a few years now hasn't even got theirs vaccinated OR spayed... so I'm assuming this is from being ill informed and lack of the right knowledge, courtesy of the pet shop she bought her from, but that rescue centres set to provide you with?
With respect to students (as I am a student I may be slightly biased, lol) not all students are the same. I've learned that although I'm at uni to get a degree, and make something of my life... I have to work hard with with the work I'm given, AND even harder with my job to fund myself to stay at uni. I don't dedicate all my time to my work, and I would never neglect my bunnies. When the work starts flooding in, in September, I will allow them free reign of the bedroom - much like they're starting to have now... and I will be sat in the bedroom with them, but doing my studies and, when I take breaks, I will be spending time with them. As I'm going in to my 3rd year socialising isn't at the top of my agenda... uni work is. My bunnies are insured and they also are set to have a bank account between Hawys and I as she is moving to Bristol for university, so financially they are covered for the rest of there life as we're both going to put £10 each in the account every month, even if we split we've both promised each other, as they are our babies
Where there's a will, there's a way. I have a massive passion for animals, which is making me think I should have listened to people when I were younger who recognised this, and I couldn't imagine my life without one.
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Snowy
Wise Old Thumper
I'm sorry for what has turned out to be a bit of a debate. I shouldn't have mentioned names initially, but I have edited my thread so that no names are shown.
I shouldn't have posted the thread, but I wanted to know what other people thought and get some constructive feedback from rescues... which I have, especially from people operating rescues themselves. There's good and bad in everything, not everything in life is perfect and just and I'm pretty sure that some of these rescues would welcome this kind of feedback that I have offered.
I shall write to this particular rescue, merely suggesting a few things that I have picked up from this forum.
I'm just sorry if people think that I've created this for an argument, because that isn't the case at all. This forum is a godsend for people like me, who know little about rabbits but who are passionate about them and are wanting to learn more and help with rescues ect. We're all here for the same thing, and we all have our own opinions. I'm just thankful I got to voice mine
xx
I hate to say but I told you so:lol: :lol:, yes, you should have posted this thread, you are entitled to your opinions just as others are entitled to theirs, at least your opinion was based on fact after your experience, we as a rescue welcome feedback, we are always looking to improve whatever we do, as I keep saying I am willing to be educated, you have no need to apologise for raising this issue and again, you are entitled to your opinion.
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I adopted from a rescue when I was a student and they had no problem with it as I was a mature student and owned my own house.
However, many students would not be able to afford the vets bills (I know when I did my first degree at 19 there's no way I could have afforded a £140 bill that Audrey cost me a couple of months ago), many live away from home in rented accomodation where pets are not allowed but would intend to sneak them in anyway, and what about when they go home for summer holidays and breaks throughout the year? And after university you often don't know where you'll end up- you may want to go backpacking or move 400 miles away and end up living somewhere where you cannot have pets.
I think rescues are entitled to select their own criteria on who they home to.
However, many students would not be able to afford the vets bills (I know when I did my first degree at 19 there's no way I could have afforded a £140 bill that Audrey cost me a couple of months ago), many live away from home in rented accomodation where pets are not allowed but would intend to sneak them in anyway, and what about when they go home for summer holidays and breaks throughout the year? And after university you often don't know where you'll end up- you may want to go backpacking or move 400 miles away and end up living somewhere where you cannot have pets.
I think rescues are entitled to select their own criteria on who they home to.
