parkfieldstud
Warren Scout
Hi
I have a quary once this has been treated is that it has it gone? or does the rabbit still carry it?
I have a quary once this has been treated is that it has it gone? or does the rabbit still carry it?
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syphilis
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Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
They still carry it and they should not be used for breeding
parkfieldstud
Warren Scout
Thankyou
taylor v 109
Mama Doe
Their are differences in opions on this some vets maintain there cured and can be used for breeding and others that say its not cured. It would be best to air on the side of caution
parkfieldstud
Warren Scout
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If she's aggressive and you can't breed from her anyway then spaying would probably solve the behaviour issue so she could be homed as a pet.
I know some rabbits that have had syphilis go on to have future bouts and it's unlikely they've been reinfected as they aren't bred. It's seems to vary though. I'm not sure if there is a test for it or not.
I know some rabbits that have had syphilis go on to have future bouts and it's unlikely they've been reinfected as they aren't bred. It's seems to vary though. I'm not sure if there is a test for it or not.
Santa
Wise Old Thumper
I agree with Tamsin - if she can't be bred from and is too aggressive to be a pet at the moment, spaying sounds as if it's the best option as that would prevent her from being bred from and would calm those hormonal territorial urges so she'd be a nicer pet.
I think the problem is that it can lie dormant (a bit like cold sores) so it may or may not recur and there's no way of you knowing whether it's still lurking there or not...and with a 12 week incubation before a flare-up it's a bit tricky to identify whether a bun is passing it around or not.
I think the problem is that it can lie dormant (a bit like cold sores) so it may or may not recur and there's no way of you knowing whether it's still lurking there or not...and with a 12 week incubation before a flare-up it's a bit tricky to identify whether a bun is passing it around or not.
parkfieldstud
Warren Scout
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Lobo
Mama Doe
Rabbit syphilis is caused by the bacterium treponema cuniculi whereas the human STD is treponema pallidum. Culturing is probably the only means to identify with surety. The standard treatment is likely to be by S/C injection, definitely not oral, of penicillin G procaine, which I think is better known as Depocillin.
I found some data in a Japanese abstract that favourably tests another drug (chloramphenicol) for use with companion rabbits. Here is that link:
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200424/000020042404A0807759.php
Another link to a Q&A by Dana Krempels:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Rabbits-703/2009/5/Rabbit-Syphilis-forever.htm
The jury still seems to be out on recurrence, so withdrawal from breeding would seem to be mandatory to reduce the risk of further spread.
I found some data in a Japanese abstract that favourably tests another drug (chloramphenicol) for use with companion rabbits. Here is that link:
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200424/000020042404A0807759.php
Another link to a Q&A by Dana Krempels:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Rabbits-703/2009/5/Rabbit-Syphilis-forever.htm
The jury still seems to be out on recurrence, so withdrawal from breeding would seem to be mandatory to reduce the risk of further spread.
honeybunny
Wise Old Thumper
We took in 6 rabbits with syphillis that had been kept in dreadful conditions and used for breeding
1 sadly had to be put to sleep as was so ill
, 2 cleared up with Depocillin injections but 3 would not completely clear.
Although they are fine in themselves they still have very slight signs of it on the inside skin of their genital area
We had a biopsy taken to establish it was syphillis after it hadn't cleared
The biopsy came back as positive..tried a different anti biotic, but still signs
So I'd say..do not risk breeding from her, check all your other rabbits and get the poorly one neutered
1 sadly had to be put to sleep as was so ill
, 2 cleared up with Depocillin injections but 3 would not completely clear.Although they are fine in themselves they still have very slight signs of it on the inside skin of their genital area
We had a biopsy taken to establish it was syphillis after it hadn't cleared
The biopsy came back as positive..tried a different anti biotic, but still signs
So I'd say..do not risk breeding from her, check all your other rabbits and get the poorly one neutered
parkfieldstud
Warren Scout
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louise and Gus
Wise Old Thumper
Bare in mind that Syphilis can be spread even by very little contact between buns, touching noses through bars for example, so I would check all your buns. I think they can be carriers and not have symptoms so it could have come from anybun
parkfieldstud
Warren Scout
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It recurs!
I just signed in to open a thread of my own regarding my bun and found this thread in the process!
I had my conti treated for syphillis before christmas, along with his companion bunny - even though she had no symptoms herself. Thistle, the conti, had scabs on his 'man area' and a sticky snotty nose. It cleared up completely after three penicillin injections but yesterday I noticed his nose has started running again.
I'd like to think it might just be a cold due to the snow and cold temps we've been having... but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be disapointed.
I just signed in to open a thread of my own regarding my bun and found this thread in the process!
I had my conti treated for syphillis before christmas, along with his companion bunny - even though she had no symptoms herself. Thistle, the conti, had scabs on his 'man area' and a sticky snotty nose. It cleared up completely after three penicillin injections but yesterday I noticed his nose has started running again.
I'd like to think it might just be a cold due to the snow and cold temps we've been having... but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be disapointed.
parkfieldstud
Warren Scout
sorry edited issues with breeder
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