I dont know whether or not to have Rhia EC tested. I know what it entails I think, three seperate tests etc? It depends on whether the bloods they are doing today show anything up, but if not its definately something I want to consider. Her symptoms point very strongly to cuniculi...but theres some doubt there :? Wish I'd had a pm done on Jen now, but I just cant bring myself to do it X
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Testing for EC?
- Thread starter Becki xX
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You had Rhia on panacur when she came here - did she stay on it for 28 days?
When Bouncer was tested - they kept him in for the day, but when he came home, I started panacur for 6 weeks on him & all my other buns. It took about 10 days for Bouncer's lab results to come back as confirmed EC.
I'm going to treat for 28 days annually now.
When Bouncer was tested - they kept him in for the day, but when he came home, I started panacur for 6 weeks on him & all my other buns. It took about 10 days for Bouncer's lab results to come back as confirmed EC.
I'm going to treat for 28 days annually now.
I think you should get her tested as all of your bunnies get ill and something like this could be present in one way or another :thumb: Not meaning to sound nasty here and I hope that what I have said doesn't get taken the wrong way its just all your bunnies are so young when you have lost them there has to be something happening 
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
As you say to get EC testing does require at least 3 seperate blood tests. Although if a Bun presents with typical EC symptoms ( headtilt, urinary incontinence, hind leg paresis etc ) and one blood test gives a high titre for EC then it can be assumed active infection is present.
Do I recall you mentioning that Rhia previously had some problem with passing unformed 'cowpat like' caecotrophs and that she had also started to eat newspaper ? If it wasn't Rhia I am obviously getting her mixed up with another Bun on here......
Anyways, if Rhia did have these issues then I wonder if your Vet has considered that Rhia may have problem with her bowels ( Megacolon )
Janex
honeybunny
Wise Old Thumper
I would save putting her through the tests and treat her and other bun anyway..if you put off treating her to wait for the results the symptoms will get worse..so just panacur her but for 6 weeks..a course of baytril also and probiotics ..Hope she improves
..Hope she improves
Piggiesgalore
Mama Doe
Finding this thread very interesting. So sorry to hear you are still having health issues with the buns Becki.
What is the best method to disinfect hutch/run if a bunny that has been staying with you goes on to be confirmed as having EC? Currently scrub out hutches with Virkon, would this be sufficient in such a case?
What is the best method to disinfect hutch/run if a bunny that has been staying with you goes on to be confirmed as having EC? Currently scrub out hutches with Virkon, would this be sufficient in such a case?
Bleach or steam cleaning is the only way to kill EC spores. Veterinary grade disinfectants such as Virkon and Trigene are not effective against it.
Piggiesgalore
Mama Doe
Thanks for that Sooz, thankfully I do scrub all the accommodation with bleach between buns coming and going (Virkon with each clean out) but it's good to know that this is the recommended method of cleaning in this instance.
Thanks for the replies. The test would be for us to actually know that this is the case, not to see whether or not to treat it. Rhia has been treated with Panacur already recently, but they have started her on Lapizole as the bunny-savy vet that saw her the other day wasnt happy about the panacur being an actual cure. I think thats basically what she said, I was a mess. EC has been a possibility with the last two rabbits I have lost, they had quite similar symptoms, but they got ill & never recovered whereas Rhia is poorly then seemingly recovers fully. Would the EC show up in a blood test then Jane? Because they are already being done today - would it just be a case of two more bloods done? Their accomodation has been bleached numerous times, but if it is a bacteria or something then theres no way I could possibly rid it from the whole of the garden & house (all of which the rabbits have access to). My last two girls didnt have a great deal of fight in them, and they were very ill non-stop - Rhia is very young & is a heck of a fighter, so I am going to move mountains to get her cured, or at least find out what it is. Jane, its Daniel with the horrific poops - pretty much 100% stress related as they were bad from moving to several different places, and have just started again now since he stayed at the vets, and now Rhia isnt with him. She was eating newspaper though, never ever seen her do it before but the morning i found her ill she sat there eating it like it was food - she must've eaten half a sheet of newspaper! XX
Panacur & Lapizole both contain the same concentration of the same active ingrediant :? :? :?
Rhia needs a titre test for EC antibodies, if they are just running a blood profile this isn't a standard test within that.
Mmm, she did say that...I cant remember why she wanted to use lapizole. Actually dont think they have started it yet because supposed to wait for a certain time or something. Right a titre test, I'll find out about that. Im going to collect her now, think it'll be a nurse who discharges her but will leave a message for Zoe to call me X
SarahP
Wise Old Thumper
Yes exactly and, not wanting to scaremonger, that does worry me about vets. There is always a possibility that mine contracted EC when they were being spayed at the vets.
Same. It also worries me that these products are also ineffective against Coccidia too.....maybe it's something to do with protozoa's....
That's because it cannot undo any damage that has already been done, just attempt to prevent anymore damage.
SarahP
Wise Old Thumper
catswhiskas
Warren Veteran
Hi Becki, I am now treating Chance for 6 weeks as, as you know, EC was mentioned with Princesses death. Interestingly, she has always had cow pat type poos, even when I got her it had been an existed problem for last owner. i would like to know what took my Princess, but there seem to be so many ideas and I didn't want to put her through a post mortem.
Buns are fragile creatures and often die young due to the nature of their species. You are a fantastic bunny mum and always have your buns best interests at heart. If you are putting both buns on a course of Panacur then what benefit will the tests be? Is there something else they can do to help with EC if it is active?
Hugs hun, I know this must be hard for you.
Buns are fragile creatures and often die young due to the nature of their species. You are a fantastic bunny mum and always have your buns best interests at heart. If you are putting both buns on a course of Panacur then what benefit will the tests be? Is there something else they can do to help with EC if it is active?
Hugs hun, I know this must be hard for you.
