VACCINATE- Myxo, RHD1 & RHD2 -Updated 1st October 2018

I did exactly the same thing on FB on the Myxomatosis page. Same as yourself, I suspect, I was so focused on the duration of immunity that the RHD1 just defaulted in my brain.

The thumbs up was more about the reliability of the links that you highlighted though, so I skim read what you had put.

My brain is in RHD1/2 overload at the moment. I am just so grateful to Richard and Frances for all they have done to try to protect our Rabbits from the virus.Was it not Frances who first raised the issue of RHD1 having a variant strain that could (and sadly did) have a severe impact on Rabbits in the UK ?
 
My brain is in RHD1/2 overload at the moment. I am just so grateful to Richard and Frances for all they have done to try to protect our Rabbits from the virus.Was it not Frances who first raised the issue of RHD1 having a variant strain that could (and sadly did) have a severe impact on Rabbits in the UK ?

Oh, I didn't know about Frances' role in highlighting the potential for impact of RHD2 in the UK. I do know she lost some of her own rabbits to RHD1 when it first arrived in the UK before the vaccine and put a lot of energy into getting us the vaccine. As she said, there's no motivator like having lost some of your own.

It doesn't matter how hard you try to educate some people, there are some just immune to learning - even when Frances put up the graphic photo of a dead wild rabbit on FB one person commented, "If that is a wild rabbit they can't get RHD2" ... Just what goes through their heads when giving their responses?!!
 
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Oh, I didn't know about Frances' role in highlighting the potential for impact of RHD2 in the UK. I do know she lost some of her own rabbits to RHD1 when it first arrived in the UK before the vaccine and put a lot of energy into getting us the vaccine. As she said, there's no motivator like having lost some of your own.

It doesn't matter how hard you try to educate some people, there are some just immune to learning - even when Frances put up the graphic photo of a dead wild rabbit on FB one person commented, "If that is a wild rabbit they can't get RHD2" ... Just what goes through their heads when giving their responses?!!

*Sigh*.........................
 
You can print off some of these and ask permission to post them in various places.


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Dont just randomly do it as you could be done for 'Flyposting'


I am hoping to have some displayed in my local Supermarkets next to their display of Rabbit Food etc

might be an idea.
I was going to ask to put them on boards anyhow, like in wilkos, sainsburys has one I believe. its just printing them off as I don't have a printer, and library printing can get costly quickly.
 
might be an idea.
I was going to ask to put them on boards anyhow, like in wilkos, sainsburys has one I believe. its just printing them off as I don't have a printer, and library printing can get costly quickly.

Maybe have a word with the Library and explain that you are doing it for a Rabbit Welfare Charity ? They may let you off payment, or do a deal of some sort.
 
I suspect the Romsey Show has some thing to do with those deaths. The "fur and feather tent" or whatever toffy nosed stuff they have there.

What classes a rabbit high risk other than shows?

It gives me bad anxiety that we created something we have no control over

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I suspect the Romsey Show has some thing to do with those deaths. The "fur and feather tent" or whatever toffy nosed stuff they have there.

What classes a rabbit high risk other than shows?

It gives me bad anxiety that we created something we have no control over

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To quote from the RWAF information given by one of their Veterinary Advisors Richard Saunders :

'' In the UK, I would suggest that high risk situations include rescue centres and breeders, unless they have a strict quarantine policy, and those rabbits which have greater contact with wild rabbits, as well as any geographical location where cases have been reported recently. All other rabbits are likely to fall into the lower risk category, requiring annual re-vaccination.''

More information here :

https://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/rabbit-health/further-reading/rvhd-further-reading/
 
The reported cases of Myxomatosis are becoming more frequent by the day. Some cases are in Vaccinated Rabbits, so the viral challenge appears to be significant. Latest reports from Ipswich, Suffolk and Benfleet, Essex

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=myxomatosis & vhd map

Much talk is taking place regarding RHD2 at the moment, but please dont forget that Myxomatosis has not gone away and unvaccinated Rabbits have a very poor chance of surviving Myxo.

https://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/rabbit-health/myxomatosis/

http://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/rabbit-health/vaccinations/

http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/?id=-455496
 
The RWAF have just (14 minutes ago) reported a suspected RHD2 death in Derbyshire, postcode DH55. It was a wild Rabbit found in the garden of the person reporting the case. So if it is RHD then it is almost inevitable that the entire colony will be infected :cry:

If you live near DE55 you may want to consider 6 monthly Filavac vaccinations. I'd contact your Vet to discuss this at the earliest opportunity.
 
And yet another report from the RWAF (1 hour ago)

Melton Mowbray, LE13

This is perhaps more distressing than other reports as it has affected rabbits in two households

The report we received was as follows

Hi i am certain my rabbits died from RVHD and I think it is the 2 as none of them showed any bleeding, I had 5 die within a week, 3 aged 2, 1 aged 1 and 1 aged 15weeks (ababy of ours) The mother of that had died previously but from injury.

It's suspected but originally thought down to rats as the neighbours have them under there shed but as one rabbit left behind orphaned 6day old kits, only having had 3 girls die, thinking it was down to Rat wee, we gave the kits to a foster mum who has also died, the same day as my 2 boys.. all being sudden, one min were fine, the next, sat still with shallow breathing and the death within 2hours. I still have two kits now 2 weeks old but one is showing bad signs this morning. Slow breathing and not moving. Although it has still fed.

I am in Melton Mowbray Leicestershire and our vets have agreed with suspicions of rvhd being cause of death. No biopsy.

The foster mum belonged to this owner's friend.

They are of course taking all measures possible to prevent any further spread


Source of above quote

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=myxomatosis & vhd map
 
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Reported by a Vets in Cirencester and in Braintree Essex :


''Report from a vet practice in Cirencester of several unexpected rabbit deaths from different households this week - they suspect RHD2 is in the area.''


''Report from a vet practice in Braintree of multiple unexpected rabbit deaths from different households over the past few weeks. Some have died without prior symptoms. Others have displayed high fever and lethargy, with the temperature suddenly dropping before the rabbits pass away''


Source of this information:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/174...dyPmtsyuNY5j4JRBhGHqPYA9V_5yLJHWRXo4Sa4n2AqJQ

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Reading about all these cases makes me wonder just how many people do vaccinate their rabbits :(

How does the new rabbit owner situation differ from that of the new dog owner? Where do new dog owners get their information from to vaccinate?

I also have a question that has been in my mind for a while. When the advice for RHD2 vaccination, Filavac, states to vaccinate twice a year if you are in a high risk area, how does vaccinating more often help? What I mean is, if the vaccination is said to provide immunity for 12 months, what additional cover does providing it every 6 months give? Is it possible that the amount of immunity is increased by doing this? I can see that in some cases, if the original vaccine was not effective in a particular rabbit e.g. for health reasons, it would help, but otherwise I'm struggling to understand. Additionally, if this is recommended for RHD2, could the same case not be made for Myx? As I think I've mentioned before also, is there not a problem in hitting the rabbit's immune system with double vaccinations?
 
I can see that in some cases, if the original vaccine was not effective in a particular rabbit e.g. for health reasons, it would help, but otherwise I'm struggling to understand. Additionally, if this is recommended for RHD2, could the same case not be made for Myx? As I think I've mentioned before also, is there not a problem in hitting the rabbit's immune system with double vaccinations?

I was having exactly this conversation with someone yesterday especially around where you'd draw the line on frequency of boosting and whether the same logic should therefore apply to nobivac too! With filavac, the advice arose because of its origins as a meat rabbit vaccine. The meat farms would batch vaccinate all the rabbits at one point in time, and they were still getting outbreaks in spite of this, hence the original data sheet said duration of immunity 12m but you can boost at 6 months if you like. So it's a bit of a belt and braces approach to ensuring that the rabbit has developed a good immune response, and the chances of them having not received a good immune response are likely in higher stress situations such as breeding, rescues, showing, places with high turnover of rabbits (boarding, rescue) etc. The advice from RWAF is that while it's not ideal, because of the prevalence of these diseases, it's far less risky than under vaccinating.
 
I was having exactly this conversation with someone yesterday especially around where you'd draw the line on frequency of boosting and whether the same logic should therefore apply to nobivac too! With filavac, the advice arose because of its origins as a meat rabbit vaccine. The meat farms would batch vaccinate all the rabbits at one point in time, and they were still getting outbreaks in spite of this, hence the original data sheet said duration of immunity 12m but you can boost at 6 months if you like. So it's a bit of a belt and braces approach to ensuring that the rabbit has developed a good immune response, and the chances of them having not received a good immune response are likely in higher stress situations such as breeding, rescues, showing, places with high turnover of rabbits (boarding, rescue) etc. The advice from RWAF is that while it's not ideal, because of the prevalence of these diseases, it's far less risky than under vaccinating.

Thanks.

So am I right in thinking, as far as the known science goes, that if a rabbit develops a good immune response to the first dose of vaccine, providing a duplicate dose 6 months later is thought to provide no additional benefit, either for Nobivak or Filavac? I realise that it is impossible to determine at the time whether a rabbit has developed a good immune response.
 
Yep - in the lab situation where the products are tested on rabbits delivery bred as disease free (e.g. clear from pasteurella and ec) and living in clinically sterile conditions, they are proven to work for 12 months (9m by challenge for eravac although the antibody levels were the same at 12m)...the question is always does that translate directly to a normal living situation.
 
Yep - in the lab situation where the products are tested on rabbits delivery bred as disease free (e.g. clear from pasteurella and ec) and living in clinically sterile conditions, they are proven to work for 12 months (9m by challenge for eravac although the antibody levels were the same at 12m)...the question is always does that translate directly to a normal living situation.


I guess only titre testing at 6 months post vaccine for EVERY individual Rabbit would be the only way to know. That would certainly be cost prohibitive for many.
 
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I guess only titre testing at 6 months post vaccine for EVERY individual Rabbit would be the only way to know. That would certainly be cost prohibitive for many.
Yea it's an interesting point, I did every 6 months to begin with because my local vets4pets suggests that, but William says every year.. Clearly his practice is in different locations, so Idk if I should be doing every 6 months or not tbh

Omi and Santa - what you was saying above I've been wondering and that was super helpful so thanks :) x

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It appears that Myxomatosis cases are significantly rising and whilst RHD2 is most definitely a major concern at the moment, Myxomatosis has not gone away and it is really important to make sure that we do all we can to minimise the risk of our Rabbit(s) contracting this potentially lethal virus.
It should be noted that there is now no single dose vaccine for Myxomatosis available in the UK, the only licenced vaccine is the Nobivac Myxo-RHD

*IMPORTANT- this vaccine provides NO protection against RHD2*

http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/?id=-455496

The RWAF also provide some additional tips regarding things we can do ( as well as vaccination) to minimise the risk of our Rabbit(s) contracting Myxomatosis :

''If you buy your hay and straw direct from the producer, try to use farms where the farmer hasn’t seen any rabbit with Myxomatosis on the land.
Feed dust-extracted hay or kiln-dried grass
Fit insect screens to outdoor enclosures
Eliminate standing water (where mosquitoes might breed) from your garden. If you have a water butt, put a small amount of cooking oil into the water. This will form a film over the surface that will suffocate mosquito larvae. Better still have a sealed lid so that wildlife can’t accidentally fall in
Treat your cats and dogs for fleas, otherwise they may bring rabbit fleas home. Talk to your vet about flea control: some products are toxic to rabbits, and some rabbit products are toxic to cats.
Try to stop wild rabbits from getting into your garden. If this isn’t feasible, make it impossible for wild visitors to have nose-to-nose contact with your pets
Make sure there’s nothing to attract vermin and wild birds to hutches/runs and use small-hole mesh on hutches/runs to keep unwelcome creatures out!''


Source of information

https://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/rabbit-health/myxomatosis/

On rare occasions an individual Rabbit may go on to contract a mild form of Myxomatosis, despite having received the vaccine. It usually presents in the nodular form. As stated this is VERY rare, but should it occur prompt Veterinary attention is always needed. The Vet should also report the case to the VMD

https://www.bsava.com/Resources/Veterinary-resources/Medicines-Guide/Pharmacovigilance

https://www.vmd.defra.gov.uk/AdverseReactionReporting/Product.aspx?SARType=Animal


Owners can also report the incident

https://www.gov.uk/report-veterinary-medicine-problem/animal-reacts-medicine

For anyone new to Rabbits there is some detailed information about Myxomatosis here :

https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/articles/infectious-disease/myxomatosis
 
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