Logan is ill :'( he's gone :'(

Just popped Lilly to the vets (to her absolute disgust)

Got to see our usual vet who is very rabbit savvy and really lovely

She checked Lilly out fully, teeth are fine, she's lost 200g but is now an ideal weight rather than a little podgy :lol: also before Logan came along I was trying to get her to be trimmer, plus she had a reduced appetite for a week after Harvey died :( her lungs are completely clear too so if she has pasturella it's not currently a full blown infection, but as I now know they can carry it for years unaffected and then it can take hold when they're very stressed :( Lilly is very fit and healthy though so it's unlikely to progress if she's carrying it

Lilly is a monkey though, she throws such tantrums at the vets, she HATES being examined, but she we stop she takes one hop away and sits down in a chilled stance, then washes and even lays down often, today she yawned within a minute of her being examined :shock: the vet said she's not scared she's just being a little madam :lol: I agree, she is stressed at the vets, but not that stressed really, she just likes things to go her own way!

I talked to this vet about Harvey and Logan, she really liked Harvey and didn't know he'd died (he died out of hours and she works 9-5) and was upset about him :( she helped care for Logan all day yesterday and said she was really upset this morning when she got in and was told he'd died :( she said she was so happy yesterday when he was looking better than the night before and was hopeful so was really upset he'd gone this morning :(

She is very sure that their deaths aren't related, her first thoughts about Harvey were liver torsion but then after I said it all happened in 2 hours and his blood tests were normal she thinks it was seizures like the other vet did and is glad Lilly has had Panacur, although has told me that I needed a longer course than what she had so I'll be giving Lilly more panacur from now for a couple of weeks. With Logan she thinks the same as the other vet said, an underlying mild infection exacerbated by stress :(

We also talked about how poor neglected rabbits end up living for ages in horrible circumstances and then the well cared for ones die suddenly :( she pointed out that if she were a rabbit she'd rather a short life happy and well-cared for with me than in a horrible hutch at the end of the garden for years on end. I know she's right as well, I just wish Logan could have had more than 5 days of happiness with me :( at least he had a few weeks happiness with his fosterer in RSPCA before then too

My poor boys though :(
 
I'm just about to update my thread but wanted to let you know I've just lost Buttons, sometimes life really sucks xx

On no :( I'm devastated for you :( I was really hopefully Buttons would pull through :( pneumonia is horrendous :( life really does suck sometimes :( feel free to PM me if you need to chat, I might not be much use as I'm also really upset too at the moment, but I'm happy to chat if you can put up with my miserable self! So sorry you lost her :(
 
What a heartbreaking update :( so sorry for you, Lily & of course Logan. Poor little boy, so sad especially as he'd just found such a loving home.

Binky free beautiful Logan xx
 
So sorry, we had everything crossed here for poor Logan. Glad he had love and care in his last days, sorry for your loss x
 
Thanks everyone

I buried him at my parents' house, he has some beautiful flowers over him

I've been so busy all weekend I've hardly had time to think, back home now and the grief is really really setting in :( I feel so guilty :( even though I know I did nothing wrong, I took him to the vets the second he coughed stuff up, I paid for loads of treatment and intensive care for him and stayed up all night with him, yet I still couldn't save him :( I keep thinking that if I'd never adopted him he'd still be at his fosterer's alive and happy :( even though I also was told by the vets it was an underlying infection that would have reared it's head at whatever the next episode of stress or immune system hit was, but that stress was caused by me adopting him :( I really feel like I've failed him :( I also feel like I've failed as a rabbit owner, I've lots two in a month :( poor Lilly is going to have to be lonely for a while longer because I do not have the confidence to own another rabbit any more and will have to wait until I do :( I also feel guilty for Lilly though :(
 
:cry: please don't feel guilty or beat yourself up over it. :cry: you really did your very best and no one knows when the infection would have occurred, far better that he had the chance of long term happiness with you and Lilly, than have stayed alone at the fosterers. Rabbits live for the moment and I'm sure he was very happy with you and Lilly.

You didn't fail him, and you haven't failed as a rabbit owner either, you've just been very very unlucky, like me :cry: I know it's easier said than done but you really shouldn't blame yourself.

I am sure Lilly will be fine until you feel better in yourself and are ready to adopt another rabbit :thumb:

Hugs xx
 
Thanks everyone

I buried him at my parents' house, he has some beautiful flowers over him

I've been so busy all weekend I've hardly had time to think, back home now and the grief is really really setting in :( I feel so guilty :( even though I know I did nothing wrong, I took him to the vets the second he coughed stuff up, I paid for loads of treatment and intensive care for him and stayed up all night with him, yet I still couldn't save him :( I keep thinking that if I'd never adopted him he'd still be at his fosterer's alive and happy :( even though I also was told by the vets it was an underlying infection that would have reared it's head at whatever the next episode of stress or immune system hit was, but that stress was caused by me adopting him :( I really feel like I've failed him :( I also feel like I've failed as a rabbit owner, I've lots two in a month :( poor Lilly is going to have to be lonely for a while longer because I do not have the confidence to own another rabbit any more and will have to wait until I do :( I also feel guilty for Lilly though :(

I know exactly how you feel, we buried Buttons in the garden next to Fudge and Mars, I feel like I have lost too many rabbits too close together but I rationally know that I haven't done anything wrong, they're vaccinated, neutered always clean always have fresh food and water but it's so awful.
I am building a new indoor enclosure and bringing Twinkle inside. She is still too young to be spayed and I can't even contemplate another one at the moment but it will depend on twinkle. My 6year old daughter has cried so much this weekend it's been heartbreaking.
Did you run the marathon in the end? Xx
 
:cry: please don't feel guilty or beat yourself up over it. :cry: you really did your very best and no one knows when the infection would have occurred, far better that he had the chance of long term happiness with you and Lilly, than have stayed alone at the fosterers. Rabbits live for the moment and I'm sure he was very happy with you and Lilly.

You didn't fail him, and you haven't failed as a rabbit owner either, you've just been very very unlucky, like me :cry: I know it's easier said than done but you really shouldn't blame yourself.

I am sure Lilly will be fine until you feel better in yourself and are ready to adopt another rabbit :thumb:

Hugs xx

Thanks Zoobec, I've really appreciated your support x

I hope this guilt does go because it's unbearable :( I've never felt guilty for something that logically I know I shouldn't feel guilty for, it's even worse than feeling guilty about things I should feel so about! :(

Lilly is happy for the time being, she's just been laid out frog-leg style, chin flat to the floor and purring in the middle of the rug, so she can't be that stressed. I hope she stays happy for the next few weeks. I hope that I'll be ready for a rabbit after Christmas but I just don't know :(
 
I know exactly how you feel, we buried Buttons in the garden next to Fudge and Mars, I feel like I have lost too many rabbits too close together but I rationally know that I haven't done anything wrong, they're vaccinated, neutered always clean always have fresh food and water but it's so awful.
I am building a new indoor enclosure and bringing Twinkle inside. She is still too young to be spayed and I can't even contemplate another one at the moment but it will depend on twinkle. My 6year old daughter has cried so much this weekend it's been heartbreaking.
Did you run the marathon in the end? Xx

I definitely understand not being able to get another rabbit yet :(

Your poor daughter, it's so hard on us even as adults, it must be so difficult as a child :( I remember being upset when my first hamster died, but that was at least easier because he lived a very long life so I knew it was his time, it's much worse when it doesn't seem to be their time :(

I did run it, I didn't feel that up to it after Logan died, but then I thought that it wouldn't benefit me not doing it, I've been looking forwards to it and it was a goal I set myself for this year, so I went ahead and did it :) I've been on a big high since, but now I'm home and have time to think I just miss Logan :( I only had him for a week and I was so attached to him :( I'm missing Harvey too, it's brought it all back :( it's a month tomorrow since he went too :(
 
:( sorry you're having a tough day. Don't rush yourself to feel ready for another rabbit - it will happen at the right time x
 
I definitely understand not being able to get another rabbit yet :(

Your poor daughter, it's so hard on us even as adults, it must be so difficult as a child :( I remember being upset when my first hamster died, but that was at least easier because he lived a very long life so I knew it was his time, it's much worse when it doesn't seem to be their time :(

I did run it, I didn't feel that up to it after Logan died, but then I thought that it wouldn't benefit me not doing it, I've been looking forwards to it and it was a goal I set myself for this year, so I went ahead and did it :) I've been on a big high since, but now I'm home and have time to think I just miss Logan :( I only had him for a week and I was so attached to him :( I'm missing Harvey too, it's brought it all back :( it's a month tomorrow since he went too :(

Oh gosh, it's all just so awful, I felt so sad for Lani when we lost her first rabbit it was horrific but to lose Buttons as well is just such a lot for her to deal with.
Well done for running, that's a massive achievement especially under those circumstances, you should be really proud of yourself. Xx
 
Oh gosh, it's all just so awful, I felt so sad for Lani when we lost her first rabbit it was horrific but to lose Buttons as well is just such a lot for her to deal with.
Well done for running, that's a massive achievement especially under those circumstances, you should be really proud of yourself. Xx

I hope she feels better soon, you too x

Thanks, I am actually really happy with my running :) I enjoyed it enough that I've decided I will do more as well :) I still can't believe that I've ran a half marathon!
 
I know exactly how you feel, we buried Buttons in the garden next to Fudge and Mars, I feel like I have lost too many rabbits too close together but I rationally know that I haven't done anything wrong, they're vaccinated, neutered always clean always have fresh food and water but it's so awful.
I am building a new indoor enclosure and bringing Twinkle inside. She is still too young to be spayed and I can't even contemplate another one at the moment but it will depend on twinkle. My 6year old daughter has cried so much this weekend it's been heartbreaking.
Did you run the marathon in the end? Xx

It's so hard isn't it :cry: my daughter is 11 and she's heartbroken by the loss of Ginger and Apricot :cry: it just seems so unfair when you go to the lengths we do to give our rabbits everything they need, to lose them in quick succession :cry:

Thanks Zoobec, I've really appreciated your support x

I hope this guilt does go because it's unbearable :( I've never felt guilty for something that logically I know I shouldn't feel guilty for, it's even worse than feeling guilty about things I should feel so about! :(

Lilly is happy for the time being, she's just been laid out frog-leg style, chin flat to the floor and purring in the middle of the rug, so she can't be that stressed. I hope she stays happy for the next few weeks. I hope that I'll be ready for a rabbit after Christmas but I just don't know :(

No problem, you have been there for me too :thumb: x
I'm sure the guilt will fade soon, you have done nothing wrong after all.
Lilly sounds very content :love: you will know when it is the right time for you to get another rabbit :thumb:

Well done on the half marathon :thumb:

(Group hug for the bereaved rabbit owners) :love: xx
 
Group hug definitely needed :love:

Lilly is trying to cheer me up by showing me her happiness, she is just so cute, all I want to do is pick her up and give her a cuddle but I know she doesn't like that much so I'm trying very hard to refrain! She just looked at me and yawned :love:
 
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