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    Is there a 'collector' near you?

    http://www.metroactive.com/papers/me...mals-9627.html

    http://www.nyshumane.org/Manual/Ch5S....htm#collector

    http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/W...collector.html

    http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=27

    http://www.planet-pets.com/collect.htm

    Ive dealt with two cases and think that it poses one of the most significant problems facing rabbits today. The danger lies in the public persona of the individuals involved and the denial of the evidence that would be blatantly obvious to some.
    They say the road to h*ll is paved with good intentions.... many 'collectors' start out with good intentions but the situation then becomes overwhelming emotionally, financially and mentally but the urge to continue to collect remains.
    Should collectors be given tea and sympathy? No. That wont stop them from collecting. As they are so far in denial I can see no benefit from 'giving them the facts'. Prosecution seems to me to be the only action to stop these individuals from causing more suffering, neglect and death.
    Roll on the Animal Welfare Bill which will give the RSPCA legal recourse to prosecute.
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    that is terrible but im not sure i understand fully- my aunty had 49 pets at one point and all of them were 100% looked after- they were her lively hood!

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    I think this is the key thing:

    Animal collectors are people who harbor large numbers of animals and fail to provide them with proper food, water, or medical care.
    It's not the number of animals that defines a collector it's that they don't provide adaquate living conditions and vet treatment and yet continue to take on more animals.

    It's important to know your limits, for some people that might be one or two animals others a dozen (or 46). It all depends on how much time, space and money you have available to dedicate to them.

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    oh i see thanks tamsin

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    Default collectors.

    I am really confused about this subject perhaps it could be explained more fully. I have never heard this term used before what exactly does it mean...please can we have more info wendy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabshan
    I am really confused about this subject perhaps it could be explained more fully. I have never heard this term used before what exactly does it mean...please can we have more info wendy.
    so am I... as someone who has just taken on a rescue hamster to add to the menagerie of 3 rabbits, 2 chinchillas and 2 fish tanks, my first thought is are you classing me as a collector of animals...... what is the point of this topic?
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    I think it refers to people who take on more animals than they have time/space for, therefore aren't cared for properly. COllector seems a strange word to use, because we all collect animals on this forum, by rescuing them, but I believe the difference is that we look after them properly and are aware of their needs.
    Any thoughts anyone?


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    I must be a collecter too!! with my
    2 dogs
    4 rabbits
    5 piggies
    and 4 gerbils
    mine are all very well cared for though

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    Hi...Yeh I guess that lets me out too as I take very good care of my animal collection too!!! suppose we could all be classed as "collectors" it depends which way you look at it....any of you guys who have large numbers of bunnies etc.
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    please correct me if I am wrong but not one of those cases were in this country from reading them

    quantity does not amount to being a collector, it is the choice of each individual to decide and for them to know their own limits

    I think you may be assuming that all 'collectors' of animals also neglect them which is not always the case. just because they have a large amount of animals does not put everyone in the catagory of a collector

    The cases that you have high lighted seem to me to be of one of love that has got out of control resulting in neglect which is then termed a case of cruelty They also indicate that these so called collectors had a mental illness in the first place to end up in the position they have got themselves in. not everyone has a mental illness and can happily care for a large amount of animals

    As you will be aware, rabbits are very complex little critters who can be well one day then be dead the next. To the novice bunny owner who is un-aware of all the health issues and signs of illness that come with owning a bunny, could be deemed cruel should they not know what they are looking for which is not their fault but that of the pet trade who are not educating the public when purchasing a bunny

    Can I ask what your opinion is of back yard breeders who I imagine, keep their animals in very much the same circumstances and could be deemed a 'collector' who could have just as many animals as a so called collector to achieve the right colour, markings etc, obsession or love
    Denny



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