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    I've not tried grating, I'll give that a go! thank you! I've tried dandelion leaves and he's not interested but did nibble on a couple of dandelion heads.

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    Good luck with the vet tomorrow. It's really stressful and exhausting nursing a sick bun but you're doing a fantastic job.

    Personally I think it's a bit premature to be thinking about PTS at this stage, especially considering Ian is still showing some feistiness (despite being doped up on opiates!) and has only really just started his current course of antibiotics. Plus they haven't tried him with the "big gun" antibiotics yet. Of course, the vet may know more than we do but it just doesn't feel like every avenue has been exhausted.

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    I hope that the Vet will feel that giving treatment more time is an appropriate course of action. If it does not feel right to you to have to let Ian go today then you do not have to consent to doing it. Hopefully you have a trusting relationship with the Vet, but if not you could seek a second opinion elsewhere.
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    He is.making more poo and taking some recovery food and nibbling slowly. I call that improvement and him showing you he wants to continue trying. As long as he is comfortable, IME it would be premature to pts and hope he can improve with more time and perhaps a modification to his meds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny momma View Post
    He is.making more poo and taking some recovery food and nibbling slowly. I call that improvement and him showing you he wants to continue trying. As long as he is comfortable, IME it would be premature to pts and hope he can improve with more time and perhaps a modification to his meds.
    Thank you all! I called the vets and my vet isn't in today. I've booked him in with her for 9.15 tomorrow morning but wondering if I should get him in to see another vet today. I saw my vet (rabbit expert) on Friday and there was no talk of PTS and he was given painkillers and antibiotics. He went from nibbling bits to refusing food altogether so I took him in on Saturday and it was that vet that gave the vetergesic and said about PTS (though I don't know if it was on our notes from the other vet). The vet from saturday is in today so I could take him to see her to see if she sees and improvement and to get more fluids in him if she thinks he's still dehydrated but I want to minimise stressful trips to the vet. I could take him today and tomorrow or wait and see until the morning? not sure what to do. The vet on saturday said to bring him in today if there's been no improvement and I think there has been a little. I asked the receptionist if I was meant to bring him in either way and she said the notes said 'if no improvement'.

    I am managing to get about 30ml of recovery and extra water into him now, which is an improvement also. We struggled to get 10ml in at a time at first. meaning we can leave him longer between feeds so hopefully that's making it all a bit less stressful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naomi1988 View Post
    Thank you all! I called the vets and my vet isn't in today. I've booked him in with her for 9.15 tomorrow morning but wondering if I should get him in to see another vet today. I saw my vet (rabbit expert) on Friday and there was no talk of PTS and he was given painkillers and antibiotics. He went from nibbling bits to refusing food altogether so I took him in on Saturday and it was that vet that gave the vetergesic and said about PTS (though I don't know if it was on our notes from the other vet). The vet from saturday is in today so I could take him to see her to see if she sees and improvement and to get more fluids in him if she thinks he's still dehydrated but I want to minimise stressful trips to the vet. I could take him today and tomorrow or wait and see until the morning? not sure what to do. The vet on saturday said to bring him in today if there's been no improvement and I think there has been a little. I asked the receptionist if I was meant to bring him in either way and she said the notes said 'if no improvement'.

    I am managing to get about 30ml of recovery and extra water into him now, which is an improvement also. We struggled to get 10ml in at a time at first. meaning we can leave him longer between feeds so hopefully that's making it all a bit less stressful

    Is he still passing poo and wee ?


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    Sounds like you could wait until tomorrow, assuming you have enough meds to see you through. Less stress all round. See if he starts to poo more with having more food intake.

    Is he eating any more by himself yet? That is less of a worry right now if you are getting more food into him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InspectorMorse View Post
    Is he still passing poo and wee ?
    Yes he's done what looks like a pretty normal amount of wee and has done more poos this morning. They're small but there's quite a lot of them.

    I have lots of metacam and the antibiotics and metachlopromide. I've now ran out of the vetergesic but perhaps that's a good thing? I asked on the phone if they could ask the vet about pain meds but the receptionist said on the notes it just says if no improvement so he can wait until the morning. Last week before he got worse our vet said his dose of metacam could go up if it needs to, but that was before he was given vetergesic by the other vet. I was thinking I could give him a higher dose of metacam this evening as the vetergesic will be out of his system (had his last dose at 8.30am). Or I can ring back at lunch time and get him in this afternoon. The vet we have is great but the practice make it really difficult to discuss anything with a vet without bringing them in
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    Sorry, I replied to both comments in one. He's not eating much by himself. still just the occasional nibble but we are getting lots into him now so perhaps he's not as hungry?

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    I would wait until tomorrow for the vet appointment. He's got improved input and output, isn't deteriorating, and the vetergesic will wear off so may show further improvements by tomorrow. Seeing the PTS vet may be more stressful for you as well, and you've already had 'advice' today from the receptionist. Unless there's an emergency, I don't see what you have to gain by going in today.

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