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Something is awry... Vet visited, not much changing! Stasis - maybe?

I hope the dental will have been all that's needed to make him feel comfortable and able to eat. I'm glad there was nothing obviously wrong on the ultrasound and his head x-ray. Sending Bear lots and lots of vibes.
 
Excellent news :D Hopefully the spurs were the problem and he will make a full recovery now. Vibes for Bear.
 
Glad he handled ga well and tests went well. While Jane is correct liver torsion was a possibility, he now had scan she suggested. As a precaution I would ask vet to double check scan depending on who read initial scan.
Not eating enough can result it the body breaking down fat which goes to the liver. It can result in fatty liver.
Even if he had no soft tissue injury, spurs can make eating uncomfortable. Sending lots of vibes he will soon be back to normal.
 
I hope Bear has done well overnight, did they do an U/S of his liver ?

If so your Vet could contact a Specialist to discuss his case and send the Speacialist a copy of the U/S images.
 
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Yeah it was an U/S of his liver that they did. I think they have ruled out everything "obvious" at this point... so hoping it is indeed his teeth and he is more himself today.

Just waiting for a call this morning for an update.
 
Lack of food does increases the liver enzymes. CC or moisten pellets. Perhaps double the portion of pellets (one scoom in the morning, one in the midday and one in the evening). If he has started to eat hay, that is great-less pellets then. Otherwise go with feeling. As much herbs, dry dandelion etc as possible, propper veggies and a bit more pellets then healthy bun.
 
Had an update from vet,

He's eating again post op, had a little hay, few pellets etc. His anaemia levels are moving in the right direction (though not sure he was anaemic... - a lot of info in one call).

Main concern is still his lack of activity, though hard to know if he is still recovering from anaesthetic.

They are awaiting a response from the specialists, and have sent them the Ultrasounds, Dental and body Xray, Blood reports etc so see if they spot anything which our vets haven't.

Sitting in the "wait and see" camp still...
 
No change.

One specialist has spoke with the vet on the phone and said they've pretty much done everything they would.

See how he is tomorrow but looks like PTS or refer to a specialist and hope we get lucky in identifying a resolvable problem, which seems increasingly unlikely as time goes on.
 
No change.

One specialist has spoke with the vet on the phone and said they've pretty much done everything they would.

See how he is tomorrow but looks like PTS or refer to a specialist and hope we get lucky in identifying a resolvable problem, which seems increasingly unlikely as time goes on.

Oh I am sorry. So second Vet whom your Vet made contact with gave no comment on all the results your Vet sent them ?

This is a really long shot, but has the Vet checked Bear’s ears ? Rabbits with ear pain can go off hard food, become depressed and develop secondary gut stasis. The latter would cause abnormal liver enzymes to show up in a blood profile.

Rabbits with ear pain do not always show obvious ear related symptoms such as scratching their ears and shaking their head. I found this out from first hand experience.

Lops are very prone to ear disease.

As I said, it’s a long shot, but I would definitely want this to be considered as a possibility by the Vet. Preferably I would opt for a Speacialist referral too

If PTS is now being considered I would also ask if giving a trial of an antibiotic would be worth a go first, unless Bear is now far too sick, which in the video you posted a few days ago he did not appear to look. Of course that could have changed by now.
 
Thanks Inspector,

I will suggest an ear check & antibiotics to the vet this morning. I know they have checked his ears on a high level, and he did have a weird lump/cyst like thing on his ear when he went in a week ago (tiny, the vet squeezed it and it popped like a spot).

I don't think Bear has got any worse than he was a week ago, at least from what the vet said last night, he's pretty much just in this limbo of eating a bit, pooing a bit, but being "miserable"/appearing grumpy.
 
Vet has agreed to put him on Antibiotics.

Still not much movement in a positive direction, he's a bit perkier today, but not much better.

Specialists aren't replying to the vets which is frustrating. Though I am not sure how much it will help unless there's something obvious in what has been sent. We are also through our insurance limit so the devil (money) will have to come into consideration, and whether there's a benefit to the expensive imaging required from a specialist. Really rubbish situation.
 
Vet has agreed to put him on Antibiotics.

Still not much movement in a positive direction, he's a bit perkier today, but not much better.

Specialists aren't replying to the vets which is frustrating. Though I am not sure how much it will help unless there's something obvious in what has been sent. We are also through our insurance limit so the devil (money) will have to come into consideration, and whether there's a benefit to the expensive imaging required from a specialist. Really rubbish situation.

How confident are you at medicating and syringe feeding him ? I am just wondering if he would do better in his home environment as the stress of being at the Vets is likely to impact on his behaviour. Are they allowing him time out of the Hospital cage to hop about ?

If you are confident about giving meds and nursing care at home I would suggest this to the Vet.

Does he live outdoors at home ? If so, then personally I would want him indoors and this might involve making a temporary indoor set up. It would be great if this included some things from his usual outdoor accommodation, things that will smell familiar to him.
 
I'd be fairly comfortable doing it if we had to. It'll be a bit stressful for him, we have a big hutch and run for them so he's able to evade capture pretty well... Good for their wellbeing, less good when it comes to vet time.

I might see if we can bring him home on Friday with antibiotics, Metacam, Emeprid and syringe food and try that for a couple of days before we make a decision.

I think he's been in a kennel type setup for the past few days, so there will be a few other animals round him that he's not likely to be a fan of (predators). But can understand it as he is really lethargic, we couldn't really get him to hop around at home.

What's weird/concerning to me is that even with 2x Metacam a day he's not eating a lot, which suggests a lot of pain, or something fundamentally wrong. Though he is taking syringe feeding well apparently.
 
Rabits sometimes need to move about to help them out: sometimes when they get a bit better they put in a burst of activity and it 'clears' them out for want of a better phrase. It might not help his longterm condition but it might help him feel more himself if he can move about more than he can at the vets' :) Bext wishes xx
 
How confident are you at medicating and syringe feeding him ? I am just wondering if he would do better in his home environment as the stress of being at the Vets is likely to impact on his behaviour. Are they allowing him time out of the Hospital cage to hop about ?

If you are confident about giving meds and nursing care at home I would suggest this to the Vet.

Does he live outdoors at home ? If so, then personally I would want him indoors and this might involve making a temporary indoor set up. It would be great if this included some things from his usual outdoor accommodation, things that will smell familiar to him.

Woud totally consider this. Some rabbits just don't like a change of enviromnent and perk up when they are back home.
 
Vet is in agreement with our approach. Specialist unfortunately agrees with what our vet has done so far, and they do not believe there is much value they can add.

- Started on antibiotics today.
- Keep him syringe fed, and keep administering drugs over tomorrow and the weekend.
- Bring home tomorrow aft/eve in the hope that familiar environment helps him. Keep up with drugs/food. Monitor for improvements or deterioration.
- If better, or improving, keep going. If not, it'll be time to put to sleep. The latter is obviously sad, but at this point I think it's best he's out of whatever pain he's in rather than making him endure it longer than he has to.
 
Vet is in agreement with our approach. Specialist unfortunately agrees with what our vet has done so far, and they do not believe there is much value they can add.

- Started on antibiotics today.
- Keep him syringe fed, and keep administering drugs over tomorrow and the weekend.
- Bring home tomorrow aft/eve in the hope that familiar environment helps him. Keep up with drugs/food. Monitor for improvements or deterioration.
- If better, or improving, keep going. If not, it'll be time to put to sleep. The latter is obviously sad, but at this point I think it's best he's out of whatever pain he's in rather than making him endure it longer than he has to.

I really hope that he can pull through
 
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