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    Hello everyone, some of you will know that Bella lost her best friend shadow 2 days ago. Iím heartbroken but my heart hurts so bad for Bella most of all because of her pain. Iv been waking at night & in the early hours so worried about her being alone. This is my first time having rabbits so Iím not experiencing in a new bonding. This is why Iíd like some advice please on this. I have watched you tube videos & read many things online. Thereís lots of different advice about how to do it & especially how long or soon after to do this so Iím very confused. I think hereís the best place to ask experienced owners that have done it before & know. Bella has been coming in for cuddles & petting which she is liking. I got the 2 girls but they were never handled & for years were just the 2 of them so they werenít tame. We only had them since may time. I didnít handle them much as shadow how passed didnít seem to like it & would nip because she wasnít used to it. It was t that I didnít want to but I didnít want to stress them & so thought it best to leave them be. Bella was always more tamer & accepting personality wise & shadow was a dwarf so perhaps being small it was more scared. Bella has not been active like she was before & is sitting not moving much. This definitely wasnít her before losing sweet shadow. I need to get her another companion as she canít be alone. Where we are there arenít rescues etc. We have the sspca & 1 rescue. Both have 2 rabbits only. On the sspca website the 2 are listed as canít live with other rabbits. I donít know if the sspca try to bond as pairs or why it says that. I have messaged the rescue who have a male & female. My worry is if I have no luck there what will I do. Am I better to get a baby/hound rabbit & is Bella more likely to accept a younger. She was the dominant girl of the pair. Since we donít have many rescues how can I find Bella a friend? The only other places are pet shop which I donít like as rather rescue but what if no other option. I canít do bunny dating here so I just donít know what to do. If a bond didnít work then would they take the bunny back? Iím so confused. 2 friends had said about getting rid of theirs & one said no but the other needs to ask her daughter first. If it didnít work with thier male she would take him back I guess. I just want a friend for Bella. Is it to soon? Iím feeling itís not but Iím no expert as each day she will be more unhappy . I also looked in bonding section but canít find how to do a bond? Coukd anyone help how you would do a bond to give the best chance of success please? Shoukd it be a younger rabbit? If I did get my friends make he would need neutered so kept separate till that & hormones die down. Maybe that would be a good thing as will give them time to smell eachother. Thank you for reading.


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    Hi and I am sorry you lost Shadow. Single females are not easy to introduce to another Rabbit as they are very territorial. Is you female spayed and how old is she? Do you have a neutral space where she hasn't ben before where she could be introduced to a male? Age doesn't matter really but the other Rabbit must be neutered. We will try to help you once you have located a suitable boy.

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    I’m 100% with Tonibun above - and she is a very experienced bunny bonder. I have been in exactly your predicament 4 months ago so all I can do is give you my advice based on my circumstances. My doe lost her partner (of only 4 months) and was very much like your Bella - loss of drive, energy and wanting to spend more time understandably, with us. She was depressed - again, it is a natural reaction.
    I attempted to reintroduce a male bunny at our home after a couple of months but to my horror, my doe was incredibly aggressive and very territorial and it was impossible to ensure the safety of the new bunny so we had to return the new bunny (who is totally happy in his home). But this left us with a huge problem as our does territory was the garden and pretty much all our living space indoors.
    We were approached by a friend at a rescue who had some male bunnies but obviously we couldn’t bond at our home so we asked if the rescue could help with the bonding as it would be neutral territory for our doe and any potential new bun friend.
    The rescue centre agreed to help us and took our doe and spent 3 weeks slowly introducing and bonding the two bunnies. We got both rabbits back a week ago and so far all is very good.
    So I would say that patience is your friend. Don’t rush straight out if it doesn’t feel right for you and more importantly Bella. Speak to the rescue and explain things. It’s in the rescue centres benefit to help you as much as possible as it will mean they can ensure a safe and happy bond for any new bunny and the rescue centre will know that they’ve given a forever home to their rescue bunny and given Bella a new friend and companion.
    I hope this helps
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    I would look for a boy rather than girl - it will be an easier bond. He needs to have been neutered at least 6 weeks before you introduce them, so he is less hormonally driven.
    You need a neutral space - somewhere that neither rabbit has been before. It doesn't have to be a big space.

    Have you tried looking at the Preloved type sites? Sometimes you can strike lucky and get a boy that is already neutered.
    Some rescues will rehome nationally and bunny runs can be arranged.

    Whereabouts are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clair071085 View Post
    Hello everyone, some of you will know that Bella lost her best friend shadow 2 days ago. Iím heartbroken but my heart hurts so bad for Bella most of all because of her pain. Iv been waking at night & in the early hours so worried about her being alone. This is my first time having rabbits so Iím not experiencing in a new bonding. This is why Iíd like some advice please on this. I have watched you tube videos & read many things online. Thereís lots of different advice about how to do it & especially how long or soon after to do this so Iím very confused. I think hereís the best place to ask experienced owners that have done it before & know. Bella has been coming in for cuddles & petting which she is liking. I got the 2 girls but they were never handled & for years were just the 2 of them so they werenít tame. We only had them since may time. I didnít handle them much as shadow how passed didnít seem to like it & would nip because she wasnít used to it. It was t that I didnít want to but I didnít want to stress them & so thought it best to leave them be. Bella was always more tamer & accepting personality wise & shadow was a dwarf so perhaps being small it was more scared. Bella has not been active like she was before & is sitting not moving much. This definitely wasnít her before losing sweet shadow. I need to get her another companion as she canít be alone. Where we are there arenít rescues etc. We have the sspca & 1 rescue. Both have 2 rabbits only. On the sspca website the 2 are listed as canít live with other rabbits. I donít know if the sspca try to bond as pairs or why it says that. I have messaged the rescue who have a male & female. My worry is if I have no luck there what will I do. Am I better to get a baby/hound rabbit & is Bella more likely to accept a younger. She was the dominant girl of the pair. Since we donít have many rescues how can I find Bella a friend? The only other places are pet shop which I donít like as rather rescue but what if no other option. I canít do bunny dating here so I just donít know what to do. If a bond didnít work then would they take the bunny back? Iím so confused. 2 friends had said about getting rid of theirs & one said no but the other needs to ask her daughter first. If it didnít work with thier male she would take him back I guess. I just want a friend for Bella. Is it to soon? Iím feeling itís not but Iím no expert as each day she will be more unhappy . I also looked in bonding section but canít find how to do a bond? Coukd anyone help how you would do a bond to give the best chance of success please? Shoukd it be a younger rabbit? If I did get my friends make he would need neutered so kept separate till that & hormones die down. Maybe that would be a good thing as will give them time to smell eachother. Thank you for reading.


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    If you are unable to find a Rescue near you who has a suitable Rabbit then if you go onto a Free ad Selling Site there are often Rabbits there Ďfree to good homeí. These Rabbits are unlikely to be neutered or vaccinated and of course you would not have any back up from a Rescue should the bonding not work out.

    For bonding both Rabbits must be neutered. Age and size is not as important as the character of the Rabbit.

    You will need a relatively small neutral area to introduce the two Rabbits. Putting the Buck into the bonding space first, waiting for a short while then adding the Doe. Donít put anything in the bonding pen that either Rabbit can become possessive of.

    It is usually better to keep the Rabbits together 24/7 rather than them having Ďdatesí and then being separated. So you would need to be able to dedicate ongoing supervision of the Rabbits for several days at least.

    IME you will know very quickly if a bond will never work. I have probably been lucky as in the last 25 years caring for over 150 Rabbits I have only had one failed bond and that was a Trio.

    As each bonding will have its own unique elements we will be able to give you more detailed advice once you start the process.

    Good luck


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    Quote Originally Posted by tonibun View Post
    Hi and I am sorry you lost Shadow. Single females are not easy to introduce to another Rabbit as they are very territorial. Is you female spayed and how old is she? Do you have a neutral space where she hasn't ben before where she could be introduced to a male? Age doesn't matter really but the other Rabbit must be neutered. We will try to help you once you have located a suitable boy.
    Hi, thank you so much. Yes Bella is spayed thankfully. Im not sure what age she is but over 5 Iíd say. My mum had them 3/4 years before I took them & im not sure what age they were when she got them. I heard back from my friend about her boy. Heís not neutered though. She said I could take him. Could I take him but keep them separate until I had him neutered giving them a chance to have time separate getting used to each-other until I coukd try bonding them together? Sheís going to give him to a rescue so we could give him a home. He doesnít have a big hutch but digs out the small run & has been escaping into the neighbours garden. I think itís lack of space which wouldnít be an issue here. I have a huge enclosure & 8x9 shed. I have thought about taking them in to be indoor rabbits but our daily because itís getting cold outside. I have the bathroom as a beau trap space for introduction but a while ago both Bella & shadow were upstairs but I do have 2 other bedrooms & bathroom they werenít in? Would that be ok? Xx


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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig 1965 View Post
    Iím 100% with Tonibun above - and she is a very experienced bunny bonder. I have been in exactly your predicament 4 months ago so all I can do is give you my advice based on my circumstances. My doe lost her partner (of only 4 months) and was very much like your Bella - loss of drive, energy and wanting to spend more time understandably, with us. She was depressed - again, it is a natural reaction.
    I attempted to reintroduce a male bunny at our home after a couple of months but to my horror, my doe was incredibly aggressive and very territorial and it was impossible to ensure the safety of the new bunny so we had to return the new bunny (who is totally happy in his home). But this left us with a huge problem as our does territory was the garden and pretty much all our living space indoors.
    We were approached by a friend at a rescue who had some male bunnies but obviously we couldnít bond at our home so we asked if the rescue could help with the bonding as it would be neutral territory for our doe and any potential new bun friend.
    The rescue centre agreed to help us and took our doe and spent 3 weeks slowly introducing and bonding the two bunnies. We got both rabbits back a week ago and so far all is very good.
    So I would say that patience is your friend. Donít rush straight out if it doesnít feel right for you and more importantly Bella. Speak to the rescue and explain things. Itís in the rescue centres benefit to help you as much as possible as it will mean they can ensure a safe and happy bond for any new bunny and the rescue centre will know that theyíve given a forever home to their rescue bunny and given Bella a new friend and companion.
    I hope this helps
    Craig.
    Hi Craig, thank you so much again for all this. Bellas territory is a huge bit of garden area & shed. I do have neutral places like bathroom & rooms in house she hadnít been. My friend has a male thatís going to a rescue & she said we coukd try with him & Bella. Heís not been neutered though thatís the problem. I thought if he came I could have him booked in right away to get done & keep them separate until he recovered & hormones went down & then try to bond? Would that work ok? Xx


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimmer View Post
    I would look for a boy rather than girl - it will be an easier bond. He needs to have been neutered at least 6 weeks before you introduce them, so he is less hormonally driven.
    You need a neutral space - somewhere that neither rabbit has been before. It doesn't have to be a big space.

    Have you tried looking at the Preloved type sites? Sometimes you can strike lucky and get a boy that is already neutered.
    Some rescues will rehome nationally and bunny runs can be arranged.

    Whereabouts are you?
    Hi shimmer, thank you so much for commenting. I had read male/female bond was best. Iv just heard back from my friend about her boy who she was giving to a rescue. The thing is heís not neutered so Iíd have to have that done prior. Iíd love to give him a home as heís trapped in a hutch now as kept digging out the tiny run & escaping into their neighbours garden. I think it was cause it was to small an area & not fair to keep a rabbit like that. Could I take him & get him neutered & keep them separate until hormones died down then try bonding? I had tried on the pages to look but all I found was baby bunnies being sold by people breeding . Iím in Inverness. Xx


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    Quote Originally Posted by InspectorMorse View Post
    If you are unable to find a Rescue near you who has a suitable Rabbit then if you go onto a Free ad Selling Site there are often Rabbits there Ďfree to good homeí. These Rabbits are unlikely to be neutered or vaccinated and of course you would not have any back up from a Rescue should the bonding not work out.

    For bonding both Rabbits must be neutered. Age and size is not as important as the character of the Rabbit.

    You will need a relatively small neutral area to introduce the two Rabbits. Putting the Buck into the bonding space first, waiting for a short while then adding the Doe. Donít put anything in the bonding pen that either Rabbit can become possessive of.

    It is usually better to keep the Rabbits together 24/7 rather than them having Ďdatesí and then being separated. So you would need to be able to dedicate ongoing supervision of the Rabbits for several days at least.

    IME you will know very quickly if a bond will never work. I have probably been lucky as in the last 25 years caring for over 150 Rabbits I have only had one failed bond and that was a Trio.

    As each bonding will have its own unique elements we will be able to give you more detailed advice once you start the process.

    Good luck
    Hi, thank you so much for sharing advice. You definitely have knowledge having so much experience. Thatís wonderful to know that you have successfully bonded so many & gives me hope. I do work but not full time or wknds as my partner works full time. I do have time to allow the time for them to live together getting used to smells etc before a bonding taking place. My friend is giving her boy away so I asked the other day about bonding him to Bella. The problem is heís not been neutered. I thought could I take him here & then keep them separate but able to smell/investigate each other until after I got him neutered & the hormones went down. I thought then I coukd try bonding them. Iíd love to give him a loving home as where he is thereís not much space xx


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    I should add that bellas been vaccinated & spayed herself xx


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