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    Quote Originally Posted by Graciee View Post
    Bless him!

    I think I'd want more clarification on the pain meds, why he can't continue etc if there's alternatives maybe? Because if nothings changed, surely without the pain relief he will be in discomfort again? It's a tough one, but it'll probably be a case of weighing up the pros and cons. Like some meds cause issues if used longterm, but if there's no quality of life without those meds, what's the point. Just my thoughts, Clementine has been on some stuff on and off which could cause her problems, but it was all that was keeping her here, so I figured it was worth a shot if it gave her quality of life. Just thought I'd throw that out there, it's a tough situation to be in
    Yes, I completely agree with you. If it's because the meds cause issues in the longterm, then, well, at least he'll still be comfortable for a while, instead of having no quality of life without them. From what the vet said on Friday, it seemed more because they're not supposed to let people have the medication at home? She said she'd make an exception because it was the only thing left to try for Casper, but that she's not actually supposed to give the injections to me. So, if there's a rule about that, I can't ask the vets to do something illegal... But maybe there'd be an alternative, yeah, some other painkiller? I don't know... They did say to call back if he gets worse again, so I assume we'd be able to discuss our options then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omi View Post
    I agree with Graciee. It is certainly a tough situation to be in, but if he stops the additional pain relief then I would also fear he would go back to how he was. I also understand that it's difficult to challenge your vets, but I think you should ask for a Plan B type of additional pain relief.
    Yes, that's my fear as well. I'll see how he does with them once a day, and call the vets to discuss alternatives if he gets worse again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a reader of books View Post
    I think this is a scene every bunny owner recognises! When they're too ill to eat much, we all shove as much as possible in their faces

    Quote Originally Posted by CarelessSquid07 View Post
    I've often found partner bunnies aren't too interested when their friend is sick. Rodney is the only one that would snuggle up sometimes, the others tended to try and be very separate apart from trying to steal special foods.
    Mine tend to stay well away, usually ina different area. Makes feeding them 'tasty' stuff easier Although sometimes Chibbs doesn't get the memo

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    Sophie's doing better, too. She came to see Casper and is now eating everything from his buffet.
    It's like they know, isn't it?! Oh you're better so I'll get up to my old tricks Chibbs likes to put Lopsy i his place 5mins every day, but when he's not well, she doesn't bother him, usually grooms him at least as much though

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    I always think evidence of self grooming is a good indicator of how a Bunny is feeling
    Absolutely agree: it's how we know Lopsy's not really THAT unwell and just needs a 'kickstart'.

    I'm so pleased he's doing a lot better. All my bunnies have been keen on (new, fresh etc.) hay even if they're not eating other things. Pellets are a dealbreaker with Lopsy, as is banana, but not Chibbs or even Aboleth.

    I wonder if buprenorphine is a controlled drug in Netherlands? It might be here too. That limits its accessibility.
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    Yeah, when they're ill there's always a pile of food in front of them! When they move to sit somewhere else, they get a new pile of food in front of them! Thank you for being pleased he's doing a lot better. Hay is usually the thing he stops eating first, so I'm surprised that he's eating hay now, but not pellets!

    Also, yes, it does seem to be a controlled drug here. I did some searching online just now and because of a law on opioids, they (except for tramadol) are only allowed to be administered by a medic, including vets, and it's forbidden for pet carers to have them at home. So, that'll be why he can't be on it longterm.
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    I wonder if there's a quick course you can do that would then allow you to administer it?

    Or maybe a non opoid alternative like paracetamol might be an option? Although I've not a clue how you would get it into him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CarelessSquid07 View Post
    I wonder if there's a quick course you can do that would then allow you to administer it?

    Or maybe a non opoid alternative like paracetamol might be an option? Although I've not a clue how you would get it into him.



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    I'm not sure... What I've read said that only a vet could do it, and that's not exactly a quick course.

    Oh, yeah, IM mentioned paracetamol, too, a few days ago! Maybe that would be an option...
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    So, I've mentioned a few times that his poops are misshapen, and I thought I'd show a picture...



    They've been like this for about two weeks, I think? It worries me, because I had expected that after a week on Emeprid and Ciseral, and a few days of getting quite a lot of syringe feed, plus Casper eating hay, they would look better now. I admit that in the back of my mind I've been wondering if his trouble eating isn't a tummy problem, despite both vets last week having examined his belly and saying that's not the issue. He is moulting a bit, so that explains why two pairs are stuck together with hair, but I've just never seen his poops have these shapes before, except after/during stasis episodes. Any bunny poop experts who can tell me if I'm worrying for no reason?
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    Yeah, they're not normal, are they :S And you're right, I'd expect more normal gut stuff from emeprid and cisaral (is this the same as cisapride? I think it probably is). So maybe it is pointing to something gut-related being the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keletkezes View Post
    Yeah, they're not normal, are they :S And you're right, I'd expect more normal gut stuff from emeprid and cisaral (is this the same as cisapride? I think it probably is). So maybe it is pointing to something gut-related being the issue.
    Yeah, they look very bad to me? Cisaral (I always spell it wrong) is the same as cisapride, yes. I think Cisaral is the name of the medication, while cisapride is the ingredient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a reader of books View Post
    So, I've mentioned a few times that his poops are misshapen, and I thought I'd show a picture...



    They've been like this for about two weeks, I think? It worries me, because I had expected that after a week on Emeprid and Ciseral, and a few days of getting quite a lot of syringe feed, plus Casper eating hay, they would look better now. I admit that in the back of my mind I've been wondering if his trouble eating isn't a tummy problem, despite both vets last week having examined his belly and saying that's not the issue. He is moulting a bit, so that explains why two pairs are stuck together with hair, but I've just never seen his poops have these shapes before, except after/during stasis episodes. Any bunny poop experts who can tell me if I'm worrying for no reason?
    Hmm they're odd! Sorry to be gross by are they dry and crumbly inside? Or squishy and wet? Atticus sometimes produces something like that and they're squishy, like you could flatten it and mould it into something (sorry )

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