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One of my rabbit savvy vets, has never seen what my bunny has

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ivettef

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I noticed the day before yesterday that my Houdini was standing oddly. When I looked at his rear end, I saw a large protrusion seemingly to come from the anal area. A milky discharge was present when I rinsed the area with warm water. I panicked and got an appointment yesterday with the vet. She thinks is a tumor and she has never seen something like that in her decades as a vet.
It is not in the anus, as she was able to see it on the side of the mass. She just suggested to keep in him as comfortable as possible until, he dies I guess. Or i PTS.
He is 12 yrs old and in pretty good health otherwise, with some arthritis. I am getting a second opinion anyway. Maybe take a picture and email to specialized hospitals. Trying to decrease the size at least, with laser surgery. Anyone knows of super vets or hospitals in NYC area? I am not ready to say bye yet.
Also, I forgot to ask for antibiotics in case the milky discharge is pus. Can't call until tomorrow. Is the cecum known to produce a milky substance? I wonder if it is normal or pus? I have a penicillin syringe in the fridge that is a few months old I was thinking I could use, since i did not use it because I was having a hard time injecting IM. I don't think it would be toxic, just not as potent. Any thoughts? He is still eating and drinking and passing stools and cecals in spite of the "tumor". If it is pus, I would use the syringe since I can't get hold of any of the three vets, but if white discharge is something "normal" from the area, then I would wait for appointment. I am not expecting professional advise, just personal experience. Thanks!
 
ivettef said:
I noticed the day before yesterday that my Houdini was standing oddly. When I looked at his rear end, I saw a large protrusion seemingly to come from the anal area. A milky discharge was present when I rinsed the area with warm water. I panicked and got an appointment yesterday with the vet. She thinks is a tumor and she has never seen something like that in her decades as a vet.
It is not in the anus, as she was able to see it on the side of the mass. She just suggested to keep in him as comfortable as possible until, he dies I guess. Or i PTS.
He is 12 yrs old and in pretty good health otherwise, with some arthritis. I am getting a second opinion anyway. Maybe take a picture and email to specialized hospitals. Trying to decrease the size at least, with laser surgery. Anyone knows of super vets or hospitals in NYC area? I am not ready to say bye yet.
Also, I forgot to ask for antibiotics in case the milky discharge is pus. Can't call until tomorrow. Is the cecum known to produce a milky substance? I wonder if it is normal or pus? I have a penicillin syringe in the fridge that is a few months old I was thinking I could use, since i did not use it because I was having a hard time injecting IM. I don't think it would be toxic, just not as potent. Any thoughts? He is still eating and drinking and passing stools and cecals in spite of the "tumor". If it is pus, I would use the syringe since I can't get hold of any of the three vets, but if white discharge is something "normal" from the area, then I would wait for appointment. I am not expecting professional advise, just personal experience. Thanks!
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This is a UK based Forum and we only have a few members based in the USA so I am not sure anyone can help re recommending a Rabbit Savvy Vet in NYC, bunny momma may be one person who might know, try PMing here

http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/member.php?41203-bunny-momma

Or there is a list on here :

https://www.rabbitrescueandrehab.org/vet-care

Personally I would not use the Penicillin injection without specific Veterinary advice to do so, it could cause more problems. I hope that your Bunny remains as comfortable as possible x
 
Rabbit pus is usually thick, like cottage cheese so I would question if it was pus.
I certainly would not use an antibiotic ( especially penicillin) without a vet’s say so and I wouldn’t use an old supply.
Good luck with your old boy.
 
Thanks! I am aware is a UK forum. I actually joined 11 years ago and forgot my login! Since people from all over tend to join more than one forum, I was hoping to reach as many bun lovers as possible. If they did not have experience with the tumor, then maybe have names of specialists somewhere. They can always consult with my local vets. I was looking for super vets since I have 3 bun savvy vets already. Looking for extraordinary, specialized vets. A long shot.
I did not use the penicillin shot. One vet practice uses them as last resort and another doesn't. That is why I have more than one regular vet. To have options. Now I need a name like The Supervet, Dr. Fitzpatrick. Maybe I should email him!
 
ivettef said:
Thanks! I am aware is a UK forum. I actually joined 11 years ago and forgot my login! Since people from all over tend to join more than one forum, I was hoping to reach as many bun lovers as possible. If they did not have experience with the tumor, then maybe have names of specialists somewhere. They can always consult with my local vets. I was looking for super vets since I have 3 bun savvy vets already. Looking for extraordinary, specialized vets. A long shot.
I did not use the penicillin shot. One vet practice uses them as last resort and another doesn't. That is why I have more than one regular vet. To have options. Now I need a name like The Supervet, Dr. Fitzpatrick. Maybe I should email him!
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He does not specilaise in Rabbits :)

I'd get one of your Vets to contact :

Richard Saunders https://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/rabbit-welfare-association-fund/about-the-rwaf/team/


Mark Rowland

https://www.trinityvetcentre.com/about-us/meet-the-team/veterinary-surgeons/mark-n-rowland

Molly Varga

http://mollyvargavet.co.uk/about/

Brigitte Reusch

https://www.vetprofessionals.com/site/our-vet-professionals

Marie Kubiak

https://www.blacksvets.co.uk/meet-the-team/dr-marie-kubiak/

The Beaumont Sainsbury Animal Hospital

https://www.rvc.ac.uk/small-animal-vet/general-practice

The D1ck Vet Rabbit and Exotics Clinic ( Unfortunate name, but excellent Rabbit Clinic !!)

https://www.ed.ac.uk/vet/services/small-animals/services/rabbit-exotic-practice
 
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Thank you! that is a lot of choices! One thing doctors and vets seem to have in common is that they "give up" on the very elderly and no one wants to do much intervention, which I can understand. But, humans and animals defy odds all the time. It is recognizing when to "give up" and when to continue that can be very difficult. The owner of the Guinness World of Records oldest living bunny (16 yrs) mentioned that they came close to losing him several times. I am not looking to beat the record, I just like his company and making him happy.
 
ivettef said:
Thank you! that is a lot of choices! One thing doctors and vets seem to have in common is that they "give up" on the very elderly and no one wants to do much intervention, which I can understand. But, humans and animals defy odds all the time. It is recognizing when to "give up" and when to continue that can be very difficult. The owner of the Guinness World of Records oldest living bunny (16 yrs) mentioned that they came close to losing him several times. I am not looking to beat the record, I just like his company and making him happy.
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In my experience most Vets dont 'give up' on elderly Pets. But what is always important when considering pursuing treatment/surgical procedures etc is taking a holistic view, addressing not just the age of the Pet but also numerous other considerations such as whether they are coping psychologically; some Rabbits hate a lot of 'hands on care' and find it all terribly distressing, if they have numerous other health problems as well as the acute one, is any pain they may be experiencing able to be well controlled, are they tolerating the drugs needed in order to achieve this................. I really think it to be rare that a Vet would just say 'oh this is an old Rabbit, no point in offering some treatments that may help him/her. I am sorry if you have experienced that attitude from a Vet.
 
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