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    Susan is really low, she is not eating her veg / hay. Susan is usually a real glutton. She is not really moving from her litter tray. When she has venture out she is scanning like mad. Might this be cos of Dilly?
    Susan doesnt see or hear overly well - maybe thats the scanning.
    Should I have taken Susan to see Dilly when he was pts so that she knows he has gone.

    I dont know whether I should look for a companion for her asap or if she needs to grieve. (I dont want to rush this but if she needs it)

    If I was to get a friend for her, will she let the friend into "her" house.

    I am in such a pickle sorry for all the questions. Thank you for your support and yet again I am asking for more - sorry.

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    I’m sorry Susan is worrying you I think you said (I probably got muddled) she wasn’t eating so well before Dillon had gone? I would call the vet and see what they say, she might need some gut meds to get her guts moving again. Her teeth might need checking over to see if everything is ok with them too.

    My bridge house bunny, Boots would scan especially if I changed anything in his room, or if he came into another room. His sight didn’t seem to be great either. So it could be her feeling a bit unsure of everything.

    If you do get her a bunny friend you would need to bond in a more neutral space and then move them back to the house area, I bonded Frosty and Fern in a room Frosty hadn’t been in much, and then when I moved them back to the bunny room where Frosty used to live, I restricted space using the same bonding pen, and I didn’t give them Frosty towers (the double cat tower) until they had been living in the room for a while. Because Frosty used to like spending a lot of his time in the tower I wondered if he would be territorial about it but it has always been fine.

    Perhaps she might like a cuddly toy to snuggle? Frosty dug and chewed at the bear I gave him so I had to remove it! Will she eat her favourite treat food?


    Sending lots of vibes and hugs xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthbert&Dillon View Post
    Susan is really low, she is not eating her veg / hay. Susan is usually a real glutton. She is not really moving from her litter tray. When she has venture out she is scanning like mad. Might this be cos of Dilly?
    Susan doesnt see or hear overly well - maybe thats the scanning.
    Should I have taken Susan to see Dilly when he was pts so that she knows he has gone.

    I dont know whether I should look for a companion for her asap or if she needs to grieve. (I dont want to rush this but if she needs it)

    If I was to get a friend for her, will she let the friend into "her" house.

    I am in such a pickle sorry for all the questions. Thank you for your support and yet again I am asking for more - sorry.
    It sounds as though Susan is feeling the loss of Dilly as much as you and your family are. Some Rabbits need time alone to come to terms with the loss of a partner. But a sight impaired/deaf Rabbit may need the companionship of another Rabbit friend sooner rather than later.

    I am assuming Susan and Dilly are/were House Rabbits ? With regards to introducing a new friend for Susan, you would need to try to establish a 'neutral territory'. So in preparation for this it would be a good idea to close off at least one room of the house and give it a good steam clean to make it 'neutral'.
    It is usually easier to introduce a baby Rabbit to an adult Rabbit, but given that Susan has some sight/hearing problems a gentle older Buck may be more appropriate. I dont know what part of the UK you are in, but maybe you could contact a local Rescue to see if they have any potentially suitable friends for Susan and if they offer help and support with bonding.

    In the meantime, as hard as it will be, try to act in a relaxed and not upset manner around Susan, dont make an unusual fuss of her (which may reinforce her belief that something bad has happened), keep to her usual routine with feeding/cleaning out etc and try to give the impression that all is OK. Although of course I know that 'OK' is the last thing you must be feeling


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    Boo scans, more when she is unsure / anxious. The one thing I'd always do (in addition to the good advice already given) is give my grieving bun panacur (if she has not v recently been treated) as her immune system will be lower she'll be more vulnerable. This is born out of a sad experience that when Myrtle died her bonded sister had her first EC episode, she had nystagmus that evening & the following morning she was uncontrollably rolling - all within 24 hours of her loss


    Lots of vibes for Susan & you xx

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    sorry - duplicate post
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    First of all sending you massive hugs,

    I agree with what others have said. I think you first need to consider whether Susan was eating completely normally before the loss of Dilly. If she wasn't, then possibly a vet check would be best to exclude any other reason for her current behaviour. If she is OK health-wise, then a cuddly toy might provide some reassurance for her.

    As you know, I have a 'scanner' here too in Tui. Anything which upsets her routine/environment makes the scanning worse.

    I'm not convinced it would have made any difference if you had let Susan see Dilly's body. I know that others have had different experiences, but all of the occasions I have done this, the remaining rabbits have paid absolutely no attention to the bodies. I supect she will have been very aware that Dilly was very ill.

    I think that female rabbits will be more territorial than males, so planning ahead with a neutral area, as Jane has suggested, is what I would do. I would also be looking at potential rescues to see what they have currently, as a suitable bunny might take a while to be available.

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    [QUOTE=Omi;7145163]First of all sending you massive hugs,

    I'm not convinced it would have made any difference if you had let Susan see Dilly's body.
    I know that others have had different experiences, but all of the occasions I have done this, the remaining rabbits have paid absolutely no attention to the bodies. I supect she will have been very aware that Dilly was very ill.

    I have to agree with this. Although mostly my bunnies have seen their partners body it hasn't necessarily been positive or helpful (aforementioned Noodle & Myrtle for one). Its my personal belief as rabbits are such intuitive creature that they will know when their partner is sick & they will know when their partner is gone. I think its only humans & elephants that have 'ceremonies' (need better word) relating to lifeless bodies

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    Thank you for your really kind replies. I will try and answer questions

    Zoobec, Susan had her MOT at the beginning of December. She has a small spurr on one tooth which will be reviewed in 6 months. Having said that she really loves this new hay with flowers in it and has increased her hay intake considerably. I can now further reduce her pellets - due to Dilly being so thin they were on perhaps more than was good for her.

    Jane - we do think that Dilly was her confidence and she would bounce up to him and follow him around. We would look to leave her in the lounge and have another bunny in another room until we could get them booked in at Mere Moggies for bonding. I am too much of a coward to do it myself.

    J&B - panacur now will be given to Susan. Thank you for that.

    Omi, yes Susan was eating normally before Dilly. She has a very hefty appetite, Susan attended all but the last appointment with Dilly and was checked her the syphilis etc - she can not catch the syphilis and was given a clean bill of health in early December.

    J&B yes we think she did know he was sick, for the last couple of days she didnt sit with him which was unusual.

    Omi - we have an appointment tomorrow at Colwyn Bay RSPCA (where Susan came from) to look at Rabbit De Niro - and 2 others who are not on the website. I am worried I am rushing and truth be told dont want to replace Dilly but I think Susan needs somebun. https://www.rspca.org.uk/findapet/de.../198640/rehome
    He has been chosen for his age as Susan is approx 5 years old too,

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    Has her hay intake increased since you started this thread do you mean? Or since she has been eating the new hay? It may be worth checking the spur out as their teeth can soon change within a very short time, especially if they arenít eating hay in sufficient quantity.

    Rabbit de Niro is lovely you are not replacing Dillon, no bun could ever do that, but you will be making Susan and another bunny very happy

    Binky free at the bridge Boots, you will never be forgotten xxxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoobec View Post
    Has her hay intake increased since you started this thread do you mean? Or since she has been eating the new hay? It may be worth checking the spur out as their teeth can soon change within a very short time, especially if they aren’t eating hay in sufficient quantity.

    Rabbit de Niro is lovely you are not replacing Dillon, no bun could ever do that, but you will be making Susan and another bunny very happy
    Absolutely agree 100% xx


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