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Advice regarding rabbits vet bills

Hi everyone thank you for your replies! We had a vet appointment today, the vet said he wants to take our her top teeth as they just keep overgrowing, should be around £200. But her mouth infection is back and on her bottom teeth so he doesn’t know if after the top are removed that it’ll work since the infection seems to be in the bottom. She’s back on antibiotics but he said it might be best putting her to sleep as she will probably have a life of mouth infections and mouth problems. She is 8 months old.

I completely agree with J-J and would definitely be seeking a second opinion. I wonder whether the vet has recommended pts because of money difficulties?
 
I completely agree with J-J and would definitely be seeking a second opinion. I wonder whether the vet has recommended pts because of money difficulties?

If this is the case please PM me before agreeing to have Bunny PTS.

ETA- As Bunny's sibling is also effected it is clearly a congenital problem- Congenital Incisor Malocclusion

http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00dis/Miscellaneous/CongenIncisorAbnRabbits.htm


Whoever bred the Bunnies should STOP breeding from the same Doe/Buck. All future litters would be at very high risk of having the same condition :cry:
 
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Sending lots of vibes for your bunny. I agree with others, a second opinion would be advisable.
 
It is true that vets who are not rabbit savvy will suggest putting to sleep earlier than ones who are I believe. I had it myself years ago before transferring to a different vets (because of this). A lot of people outside of this forum won't spend money on their bunnies like people here would do so that's what they're used to.
I don't know much about teeth issues but other people who've posted do so it would be worth having a second opinion
 
That sounds to be rather drastic. Personally I would seek a second opinion. Have any Dental Xrays been taken to assess just how bad the tooth root infection is ? It could well be that once all her Incisors (front teeth) are removed the current infection will not recur. It is impossible for a Vet to see the full situation without having taken any Dental Xrays. Rabbits can cope perfectly well without Incisors, they may just need their Veg cut up and have short cut hays.

I would strongly advise you to seek a second opinion before agreeing to PTS.

Yes she did have xrays, 2 done intact, that’s one of the reasons why her vet bills were so high. She has infection on her bottom two, also that one of her back teeth on the bottom is at an angle so it makes it more difficult. So if we removed the top two I still think the infection would be there since it’s on the bottom tooth. Will see how the surgery goes in a few weeks, if it’s a success then great but he isn’t sure because of the the tooth is and the infection too. And he doesn’t want her to be back and forth with constant infections/surgery. I do trust him as he did amazing with her sister. And he is rabbit savvy. She currently only eats pellets and veg. Hasn’t eaten hay in around 2 months due to her problems. I’m hoping after surgery she will eat a little of hay.
 
I completely agree with J-J and would definitely be seeking a second opinion. I wonder whether the vet has recommended pts because of money difficulties?

He said it’s because he thinks she will have a life of constant surgeries and being in pain and it’s not fair on her to put her through that
 
I completely agree with J-J and would definitely be seeking a second opinion. I wonder whether the vet has recommended pts because of money difficulties?

If this is the case please PM me before agreeing to have Bunny PTS.

ETA- As Bunny's sibling is also effected it is clearly a congenital problem- Congenital Incisor Malocclusion

http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00dis/Miscellaneous/CongenIncisorAbnRabbits.htm


Whoever bred the Bunnies should STOP breeding from the same Doe/Buck. All future litters would be at very high risk of having the same condition :cry:

Her sister didn’t have these kind of problems, she had over growing teeth, she had surgery and had no further problems after this. But I do agree, so many people are breeding these bunnies and they have so many health problems
 
If this is the case please PM me before agreeing to have Bunny PTS.

ETA- As Bunny's sibling is also effected it is clearly a congenital problem- Congenital Incisor Malocclusion

http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/00dis/Miscellaneous/CongenIncisorAbnRabbits.htm


Whoever bred the Bunnies should STOP breeding from the same Doe/Buck. All future litters would be at very high risk of having the same condition :cry:

It is true that vets who are not rabbit savvy will suggest putting to sleep earlier than ones who are I believe. I had it myself years ago before transferring to a different vets (because of this). A lot of people outside of this forum won't spend money on their bunnies like people here would do so that's what they're used to.
I don't know much about teeth issues but other people who've posted do so it would be worth having a second opinion
They are rabbit savvy. They know so much about rabbits and ads specialised in it. He did her sisters surgery and did a amazing job. I was thinking about a second opinion but I have to rely on my dad to take me to this one which is 30 mins away, 1 hour in traffic as it’s difficult to get to. There’s no other rabbit savvy ones near me, only hours away so there is no way i could get there for appointments. He said to do this surgery and then see how everything is, if she’s not improving then it may be better to put her to sleep because he said she would have a life full of surgeries and pain
 
They are rabbit savvy. They know so much about rabbits and ads specialised in it. He did her sisters surgery and did a amazing job. I was thinking about a second opinion but I have to rely on my dad to take me to this one which is 30 mins away, 1 hour in traffic as it’s difficult to get to. There’s no other rabbit savvy ones near me, only hours away so there is no way i could get there for appointments. He said to do this surgery and then see how everything is, if she’s not improving then it may be better to put her to sleep because he said she would have a life full of surgeries and pain

I dont understand why the Vet is not going to remove both the top and bottom incisors :? That is the usual procedure. Removing the infected (bottom) ones would also remove the roots where the core of infection is probably located. Just removing the top ones may not help with the malocclusion and the lower ones will probably overgrow, even if the abx clears up the current infection.

:?
 
Yes she did have xrays, 2 done intact, that’s one of the reasons why her vet bills were so high. She has infection on her bottom two, also that one of her back teeth on the bottom is at an angle so it makes it more difficult. So if we removed the top two I still think the infection would be there since it’s on the bottom tooth. Will see how the surgery goes in a few weeks, if it’s a success then great but he isn’t sure because of the the tooth is and the infection too. And he doesn’t want her to be back and forth with constant infections/surgery. I do trust him as he did amazing with her sister. And he is rabbit savvy. She currently only eats pellets and veg. Hasn’t eaten hay in around 2 months due to her problems. I’m hoping after surgery she will eat a little of hay.

That doesn't make sense to me.
Had your rabbits eaten plenty of hay before this?
May I ask whether you had your rabbits from a 'reputable breeder' or a pet store?
 
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I dont understand why the Vet is not going to remove both the top and bottom incisors :? That is the usual procedure. Removing the infected (bottom) ones would also remove the roots where the core of infection is probably located. Just removing the top ones may not help with the malocclusion and the lower ones will probably overgrow, even if the abx clears up the current infection.

:?

Please feel free to inform me if I’m wrong as I don’t know much about rabbits teeth. But if they remove her top and bottom teeth how will she eat? Because the vet said they only use top to grab food, but the bottom to chew.
 
I dont understand why the Vet is not going to remove both the top and bottom incisors :? That is the usual procedure. Removing the infected (bottom) ones would also remove the roots where the core of infection is probably located. Just removing the top ones may not help with the malocclusion and the lower ones will probably overgrow, even if the abx clears up the current infection.

:?

That doesn't make sense to me.
Had your rabbits eaten plenty of hay before this?
May I ask whether you had your rabbits from a 'reputable breeder' or a pet store?

We had her sister from this breeder, she loved hay so much. But unfortunately passed away during her spay, made the mistake of not getting rabbit savvy, now will only use rabbit savvy for appointments. We got her two sisters. From the same breeder, we missed her so much and couldn’t have her back so wanted relatives of her. After we got the girls we said we would never go to a breeder again, or at least not one like that. She had maybe 20 hutches, all with rabbits in and some with babies of 3-4 in each hutch. So yes she was from a breeder, but maybe a back house breeder? Anyway when we got them, they weren’t great hay eaters. Tried different ones, putting it in litter tray, in toys, random parts of the room, above litter tray in rack. Nothing worked, went to lots of vet appointments, check ups and was fine. They were maybe eating like a few strands a day. Her sister had surgery for over growing teeth and ate hay a lot more but still not like the normal rabbit amount. Now my unwell girl she’s not eaten hay in around 2 months, lives off pellets and vegetables. She seems happy running around and only lost a tiny bit of weight.

Sorry for long post just wanted to give you all the information
 
Please feel free to inform me if I’m wrong as I don’t know much about rabbits teeth. But if they remove her top and bottom teeth how will she eat? Because the vet said they only use top to grab food, but the bottom to chew.

Teeth of all species need to meet to effectively chew, grind or bite - so basically some are needed on the top & bottom. As bunnies teeth continuously grow having teeth removed creates a problem for the opposite tooth which will grow too long as it doesn't have another tooth opposite to wear against. Bunnies with no teeth can normally get by on grated veg, sometimes very finely chopped grass or hay, mushed up nuggets or recovery food. I'd say they use their front teeth to grab but their molars / cheek teeth to chew (top & bottom)

Lots of vibes, I know from experience how stressful dental buns can be
 
Teeth of all species need to meet to effectively chew, grind or bite - so basically some are needed on the top & bottom. As bunnies teeth continuously grow having teeth removed creates a problem for the opposite tooth which will grow too long as it doesn't have another tooth opposite to wear against. Bunnies with no teeth can normally get by on grated veg, sometimes very finely chopped grass or hay, mushed up nuggets or recovery food. I'd say they use their front teeth to grab but their molars / cheek teeth to chew (top & bottom)

Lots of vibes, I know from experience how stressful dental buns can be

Makes sense, Thank you. She got the top filed down on Tuesday and she’s eating kale and pellets and going to the toilet and they’re even getting a bit of golden in. But when her top overgrow she just won’t eat much at all. The vet is going to take the top teeth out from the root I think
 
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