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    We're trying to bond Hamilton and Beatrice with Jellybean again this weekend, this time in Jellybean's room/her territory. At first it seemed to be going better because Jellybean was comfortable in her environment, but Beatrice has laid into her so many times now that Jelly is cowering in a corner and shaking most of the time. She has lost all of her confidence.

    I'm wondering if we could trying removing Beatrice from the situation and just having Hamilton and Jelly together to start with, then reintroducing Beatrice to the situation. Hamilton is gentle as a lamb - he has not once gone for Jel, but she's so freaked out by other rabbits in general now that she's too scared to let him anywhere near her.

    I'm thinking I could divide the room into two, so Beatrice isn't completely separated from Ham who she is bonded with but that so she can't go for Jellybean. Then maybe once Jellybean is more comfortable and has warmed up to Hamilton, we can try them as a trio again. Beatrice is the problem here, but maybe if Hamilton and Jel connect, he will defend Jellybean when we try again.

    What do you guys think?
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    It's also worth mentioning for those who don't know that they were once a trio with Plumpkin. Beatrice also gave Plumps a really hard time at first, but Plumpkin's reaction was more taken aback/hurt than petrified out of her mind. In the end, Beatrice was more bonded with Plumpkin than she was with Hamilton and she grieved for Plumpkin for weeks. So I don't think this is an impossible situation.

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    I had been thinking about you just last night and wondered how things were. And I wish this was a more positive update on your situation with Jelly.
    I'm afraid I'm not an expert on bonding - and even more so with a trio. But I was watching my two last night and I spent some time wondering how people do trio bonding.
    And I broke it down into this - which may not be the right way. I thought that one way would be to bond singularly and slowly at first. Get a new bonded double, and then repeat som that both bonded doubles then had a relationship with the new bun.
    I'm sure there are some RU buddies who have massive experience with bonding trios and can point you in the right direction. But I hope very much that you can find a strategy. Jelly is lovely rabbit but perhaps she has some deep set emtional scars that could be the barrier so far. It's finding a way to win her confidence that may be the key to success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig 1965 View Post
    I had been thinking about you just last night and wondered how things were. And I wish this was a more positive update on your situation with Jelly.
    I'm afraid I'm not an expert on bonding - and even more so with a trio. But I was watching my two last night and I spent some time wondering how people do trio bonding.
    And I broke it down into this - which may not be the right way. I thought that one way would be to bond singularly and slowly at first. Get a new bonded double, and then repeat som that both bonded doubles then had a relationship with the new bun.
    I'm sure there are some RU buddies who have massive experience with bonding trios and can point you in the right direction. But I hope very much that you can find a strategy. Jelly is lovely rabbit but perhaps she has some deep set emtional scars that could be the barrier so far. It's finding a way to win her confidence that may be the key to success.
    Sending you positive vibes. x
    Thanks for the advice, Craig. I think this is definitely the best way to go forward for the time being. It has been a couple of hours now of having the room divided, and Jellybean has calmed down a lot. She's still wary of Hamilton, but she isn't terrified. Ham and Bea don't seem too distressed as they can still see each other through the fence. I think we're going to leave them to it with this setup and keep a close eye.

    If Jellybean can gain confidence and trust with Hamilton, maybe she will be less scared of Beatrice. We'll have to wait and see.

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    Sorry but I could make arguments for both options. In other words I simply don't know and suspect the answer would be in knowing the character of the rabbits, rather than a blanket this way would be better type of response.

    I do send lots of positive bonding vibes though and hope it all works out well. The past history with Beatrice and Plumplin must be a hopeful indication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omi View Post
    Sorry but I could make arguments for both options. In other words I simply don't know and suspect the answer would be in knowing the character of the rabbits, rather than a blanket this way would be better type of response.

    I do send lots of positive bonding vibes though and hope it all works out well. The past history with Beatrice and Plumplin must be a hopeful indication.
    Yep, I get where you're coming from there Omi. My gut feeling is that the above is the best way to go right now. Jellybean's crippling fear of Beatrice just lead to her getting injured last time, which was rubbish. So far, she has calmed down with Beatrice on the other side of the fence and they are even sniffing each other through the bars a bit.

    To my knowledge, Jellybean may not have had contact with other rabbits since she was 8 weeks old. Now 4 - 5 years old, she has little experience with others of her kind, and her first experience with Beatrice was traumatizing for her. Jellybean is confident with my cat, in fact she will chase him off, and she should be much more threatened by him than by other rabbits.

    I know it's too complex to blanket statement and not a black and white situation, but I think for now this may be the way to go. I do have hope/confidence that Beatrice will come around. She was so so mean to Plumpkin at first, pulling out her fur and scratching her. Yet their bond was amazing in the end.

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    Personally I wouldn't separate Ham and Bea. They are a bonded pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonibun View Post
    Personally I wouldn't separate Ham and Bea. They are a bonded pair.
    I think the same, if I was in your situation I would try to find a friend for Jelly and have a second pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonibun View Post
    Personally I wouldn't separate Ham and Bea. They are a bonded pair.
    They're right next to each other in the same room, just with a wire divide up. Neither of them are showing signs of distress, they're all relaxed and laying down. To be perfectly honest, I'm not in the position financially to take on another rabbit. I also don't have the space, as Jellybean cannot live inside long-term. We have already spent 1000s on accomodation for Hamilton and Beatrice.

    Bonding them this way is going much better. All of the bunnies seem much more relaxed and they're all able to interact without aggression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonibun View Post
    Personally I wouldn't separate Ham and Bea. They are a bonded pair.
    Yea I agree, have to say I'd never separate a bonded pair. You could end up with three separate rabbits...

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