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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMax View Post
    That sounds like an amazingly thorough check up Craig and I bet you felt it was worth every cent.

    There is good evidence to show that Gabapentin works very well on nerve pain and I know several specialist vets that are definitely in favour of it's use

    There's an article here that might be worth a read of when you've time:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...cts_in_rabbits


    Just thinking - would a hay only diet possibly lead to more weight loss, even if just for a short time?
    Exactly my thoughts when she said it. I get the logic on how it will be better on his teeth, but it's going to be neigh on impossible to police it. Lillian will go booloo if I suddenly stop the nomms and my concern really is Henry needs to either hold/sustain his weight or put it on. So I'll get some of the long stem hay from work and the best I can do is to make it available in all their living areas in the hope that they at least dig in. I'll reduce the pellets and the greens and carrots so that they sort of have to go to the hay. But I feel they need to eat so removing what they are used to might not be well thought of by Hillian.

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    I think you have to go with your gut feeling (no pun intended) regarding the diet. No experience in bunnies, but gabapentine has been shown to be very effective in reducing human nerve pain and is one of the first lines of treatment after anti inflammatories. Sending lots of vibes for you both x

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    Hi! My bunny and a previous bunny have both been on 1/4 gabapentin and are doing/did very well on it! I would recommend a pill cutter or ask the vets to do it for you as it’s very crumbly! I just hide it in some fibre plex. Also re hay only, my guys are currently hay only due to gut issues and they’ve only lost 20g after a month or so but they’re super hay eaters and they can still have grass

    Hope some of this is helpful!

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    This sounds like a really useful consultation by a vet who seems to have considered Henry's symptoms carefully, without rushing to quick conclusions as to possible causes for his issues. I presume that you will see her again for his next check-up in a week's time. Gabapentin is certainly used for nerve pain in humans.

    Like you I'm not quite sure about the hay only diet for a week. My thoughts would be not so much about the weight loss issue, but I don't know how much change would be evident in his teeth after just one week (I presume this is what she is thinking). If I were you, I think I would ring the vets and discuss it with her on the phone if you can before deciding on what to do about it. She is clearly wanting to see what effect it has had on Henry after a week, which is why she's asked to see him again then. I think if you don't follow her advice, it might be difficult when you return with Henry.
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    Pleased to hear that Henry is feeling a bit better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig 1965 View Post
    Exactly my thoughts when she said it. I get the logic on how it will be better on his teeth, but it's going to be neigh on impossible to police it. Lillian will go booloo if I suddenly stop the nomms and my concern really is Henry needs to either hold/sustain his weight or put it on. So I'll get some of the long stem hay from work and the best I can do is to make it available in all their living areas in the hope that they at least dig in. I'll reduce the pellets and the greens and carrots so that they sort of have to go to the hay. But I feel they need to eat so removing what they are used to might not be well thought of by Hillian.

    Well only you and the vet can decide, but wearing the crowns of the teeth may not make any difference to the tooth roots, if that's what the thinking is, and in one week I would doubt there would be any difference to show. There may be additional weight loss for Henry, and you do risk upsetting the apple cart with Lillian who has her her own issues with food. But I will try not to interfere on that one

    Getting in some nommy hay is certainly a good idea, and there's always readigrass and oat-readigrass, which are as good as hay at wearing teeth down and provide more calories than regular hay. Alfalfa hay is also good for teeth wear and weight gain, so long as there are no existing bladder sludge issues.
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