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    Quote Originally Posted by Truffpuff View Post
    Thatís what I was afraid of. I canít help panicking or thinking the worst because Iíve never had two rabbits before or bonded, it broke down once after 8 months so Iím such a paranoid bun mum now!

    Yeah your totally right. Iíve been trying to do my foe flower wedding display flowers to keep me busy but keep an eye on them. They seem fine again but I just feel on edge all the time.
    They certainly do! Iíve asked if they can give it a break for now haha!

    I hope your bond continues to go well x


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    I know how you feel Iím naturally a panicky person but some times they can feel what we are feeling as well so some of it could be that. I often sit by the hutch doing cross stich so I can hear but am totally emerged in boring monotonous concentration just to stop me feeling negative.
    This is just a though so any one correct me if Iím wrong.

    I hope things start to be on the up for your boys bonding and your piece of mind to x

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    Spoke to soon, they were fine for like 50 mins cuddling then grooming. Suddenly Luther lost it and chased Truffle and nipped his butt.

    So Iíve herded both into their pen for a time out.

    Maybe we need to go back to just the kitchen/diner and living room was too much too fast, only two or three days after the space expansion before.


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    Deep breaths and do what your gut is telling you. If you think it was to fast then reduce the space again and give it longer.

    I wonít be allowing my buns in the living room for a few more weeks ( although they have the run of the hall ) as I have to bun prof it which had to be left till after Xmas. No idea if thatís going to mess things up but it couldnít be helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey&boo View Post
    Bunny relationships remind me of people relationships - some live in each others pockets, forever snuggling, some argue like crazy then make up with similar passion, some seem more like friends, some are decidely psychotic. Its hard enough to read our own species minds never mind bunnies. That said it sounds like your instinct is to reduce their space back til they are settled for a longer time. I'd follow your gut.

    IME (Boo being my bossy rabbit) her behaviour has calmed over time but not changed.
    Omg I think you are so right!! I see all kinds on Facebook of examples of different relationships, I think you got them spot on lol! Just upsetting that they canít be the pocket variety as Iím an anxious nervous person anyway without bunnies lol!
    Thank you for your support. I kept them in their pen all of yesterday afternoon and evening and nobun complained and they were fine. Today I have used the puppy pen to fence of half the kitchen/diner and will keep it like that till the weekend and maybe give a bit more.

    Does that mean bossy Boo is still nippy? Or just shows whoís boss still but now in a nicer way?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa1981 View Post
    I know how you feel Iím naturally a panicky person but some times they can feel what we are feeling as well so some of it could be that. I often sit by the hutch doing cross stich so I can hear but am totally emerged in boring monotonous concentration just to stop me feeling negative.
    This is just a though so any one correct me if Iím wrong.

    I hope things start to be on the up for your boys bonding and your piece of mind to x



    Deep breaths and do what your gut is telling you. If you think it was to fast then reduce the space again and give it longer.

    I wonít be allowing my buns in the living room for a few more weeks ( although they have the run of the hall ) as I have to bun prof it which had to be left till after Xmas. No idea if thatís going to mess things up but it couldnít be helped.
    Yes I think we are very similar! Yeah that is why I tried to keep a distance when they first came back from the bonders because I think they could smell my anxiety a mile away lol!
    No honestly it sounds like your doing everything right to me :-)

    Thank you, and thank you for your support. I hope your journey keeps going well with yours.

    Personally unless the buns get nasty through frustration of being in a small space, I think taking it slow while you bun proof areas is fine and if anything will cement them together more as they will have been in closer quarters for longer.
    Slow is definitely better than too fast, and not having chewed things is also better haha! X


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truffpuff View Post
    Yes I think we are very similar! Yeah that is why I tried to keep a distance when they first came back from the bonders because I think they could smell my anxiety a mile away lol!
    No honestly it sounds like your doing everything right to me :-)

    Thank you, and thank you for your support. I hope your journey keeps going well with yours.

    Personally unless the buns get nasty through frustration of being in a small space, I think taking it slow while you bun proof areas is fine and if anything will cement them together more as they will have been in closer quarters for longer.
    Slow is definitely better than too fast, and not having chewed things is also better haha! X


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    Sounds like it but we muddle on and get there in the end

    Your doing a good job with your two and they obviously think so to or they would have had issues with you reducing the space. I think every bun and every bun relationship is different so itís like starting over each time but each single bun or group of buns teach you new things about rabbits and how to take care of them. Itís also like kids one big learning curve.

    My two refused to go into the hallway again since yesterday afternoon for no apparent reason. I went into the cupboard in the hall for some thing for tea to find I had left the freezer open over night smart rabbits. They have ended up with extra pellets and apple sticks because I feel so bad about it.

    Off ice skating for the first time in a month n wondering if Iím going to be coming back with all my body parts lol.

    Hope the rest of your day goes well and that the boys keep being little angels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truffpuff View Post
    Omg I think you are so right!! I see all kinds on Facebook of examples of different relationships, I think you got them spot on lol! Just upsetting that they can’t be the pocket variety as I’m an anxious nervous person anyway without bunnies lol!
    Thank you for your support. I kept them in their pen all of yesterday afternoon and evening and nobun complained and they were fine. Today I have used the puppy pen to fence of half the kitchen/diner and will keep it like that till the weekend and maybe give a bit more.

    Does that mean bossy Boo is still nippy? Or just shows who’s boss still but now in a nicer way?


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    She is a little chasey, sometimes she'll manage a liitle fur pull but not often. She is a very demanding rabbit - totally adorable too of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa1981 View Post
    Sounds like it but we muddle on and get there in the end

    Your doing a good job with your two and they obviously think so to or they would have had issues with you reducing the space. I think every bun and every bun relationship is different so itís like starting over each time but each single bun or group of buns teach you new things about rabbits and how to take care of them. Itís also like kids one big learning curve.

    My two refused to go into the hallway again since yesterday afternoon for no apparent reason. I went into the cupboard in the hall for some thing for tea to find I had left the freezer open over night smart rabbits. They have ended up with extra pellets and apple sticks because I feel so bad about it.

    Off ice skating for the first time in a month n wondering if Iím going to be coming back with all my body parts lol.

    Hope the rest of your day goes well and that the boys keep being little angels
    Thank you itís hard to remember that often because every occasion thatís bad I feel like Iíve failed, which I know sounds dramatic. As my first pair of rabbits I can say I have learned a lot! Lol.

    Oh no! Itís funny when they do that! Sometimes something in a certain place is ďspookyĒ then later on they will have forgotten all about it. Oh dear! I hope all your food was ok, Iíve done that before too but lucky it was ok.

    Haha! I hope you do still have all the correct parts :-) god itís been like 15 years since Iíve been on ice! Used to go every weekend after watching our ice hockey team!

    Thank you, although sadly not, they are back in the pen this evening. Luther again started acting up about 8pm :-(


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    Quote Originally Posted by joey&boo View Post
    She is a little chasey, sometimes she'll manage a liitle fur pull but not often. She is a very demanding rabbit - totally adorable too of course
    I canít wait to get to that point.

    Literally crying this evening because I feel like I give all our animals 100% and Iíve had a fish die this evening that Iíve Ben treating because it was ill, and then 8pm despite having less room just half the kitchen diner Luther lost it again and launched at Truffle and pulled fur out his face. So I shut them in the pen, Truffle flopped next to Luey like he just wants the meanness to be all over and Luey licked him in the face!! I mean Iím just so lost and upset because we never had this the first time they bonded they just got on after until that really bad time when it all broke down.

    Itís like he projects any small annoyance or frustration onto Truffle, so now heís fenced off from the living room heís bar biting and moving the bars then Truffle was near and he tries to nip him or circle.
    I thought about a bunny behaviourist if there is such a thing.....although Iím sure I probably couldnít afford it.

    I wonder sometimes if Luther would have been happier if someone else adopted him :í-(


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truffpuff View Post
    Thank you itís hard to remember that often because every occasion thatís bad I feel like Iíve failed, which I know sounds dramatic. As my first pair of rabbits I can say I have learned a lot! Lol.

    Oh no! Itís funny when they do that! Sometimes something in a certain place is ďspookyĒ then later on they will have forgotten all about it. Oh dear! I hope all your food was ok, Iíve done that before too but lucky it was ok.

    Haha! I hope you do still have all the correct parts :-) god itís been like 15 years since Iíve been on ice! Used to go every weekend after watching our ice hockey team!

    Thank you, although sadly not, they are back in the pen this evening. Luther again started acting up about 8pm :-(


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    Itís not dramatic your being honest about how you feel with a situation. Iím like it and seem to find it can easily come when Iím anxious nervous or panicking.

    Itís always good to learn and any thing that goes with making their life and yours better is a good thing

    Iím thinking the hallway refusal was because it had gotten quiet a bit colder from the freezer. Food was fine as the cupboard keeps the cold in mostly.

    Iím on the bus but had to count all my fingers and toes befor I left the ice rink lol we go twice a week (except over Christmas) itís a brilliant way to get and keep in shape. I started again after a 20 year gap. Sounds like you used to have a great time

    Oh no. How are they now? I remember reading that they couldnít go back to the bonders again in another thread but could you not ring them for some advice and see what they think.

    I hope things improve for you all xx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa1981 View Post
    Itís not dramatic your being honest about how you feel with a situation. Iím like it and seem to find it can easily come when Iím anxious nervous or panicking.

    Itís always good to learn and any thing that goes with making their life and yours better is a good thing

    Iím thinking the hallway refusal was because it had gotten quiet a bit colder from the freezer. Food was fine as the cupboard keeps the cold in mostly.

    Iím on the bus but had to count all my fingers and toes befor I left the ice rink lol we go twice a week (except over Christmas) itís a brilliant way to get and keep in shape. I started again after a 20 year gap. Sounds like you used to have a great time

    Oh no. How are they now? I remember reading that they couldnít go back to the bonders again in another thread but could you not ring them for some advice and see what they think.

    I hope things improve for you all xx
    Thank you I really appreciate that, because Iím home all day with them (and all the other pets) it can just all get a bit much and overwhelming when they donít just get along and I donít understand how to help. So I turn into a crazy person by the time my fiancť gets home, itís hard to feel ok to nip out for a while at the moment too which doesnít help.

    Yeah that sounds like that could have been it, they donít like cold peets hehe! Maybe the freezer made weird sounds being open too so it sounded like a monster.

    Haha! Glad they are all there! Ah wow, that was quite a gap. Yeah in school it was our thing to watch mk lightning then skate free after. But now Iím a shut in grump who hates the cold hahaha! My OH wants to go with me though but Iíve been putting it off.

    Yeah that was us unfortunately. Which is another reason I get so frustrated and upset because I know itís really their last chance. I rang the bonders I think the second week after having them home because I was freaking out about the circling, he said to just do what they do and you gently push down on their shoulders to show them you are dominant and they are equal (I think is the thought process), but at that time I couldnít get in fast enough so clapping and a squirt of water did the trick, but while they were out I did the pushing technique and it did work on stopping the behaviour but until Luther decides heís over whatever is in his head he starts again or until I put them both in their pen in time out.
    This evening I just left them in their pen and they were fine, occasionally Iíd walk past to go into the kitchen and theyíd be apart, cuddling or grooming.

    I wish I knew how to help. Thank you, I really appreciate it xx




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    I get that. Iím not in all day every day but Iím with mine a lot and spend a lot of time with them and any new thing worryís me because Iím so new to rabbits and reading up on the internet can get quiet confusing a lot of the time.

    Weíve been having the odd fur pull a lot of sniffing of behinds lately which has got me thinking do I really have two girls( surely breeder and a vet canít be wrong) but then tonight there has been chasing and humping and they are getting more destructive and one is becoming nippy. Although I think itís probably a dominance thing itís put me on high alert and asking myself so many questions Iím sure Iíll be grey by morning.

    My daughter is home educated and we use it as one of her therapies for a few of her diognosises and sheís doing really well with lessons so as much as I donít like the cold itís good for us both and how I lost 9 stone last year. Thereís also a large group of kids that are home Ed and get together on a Friday at the ice rink so itís good socially for her.
    I would go when you can just wrap up well and you might be suprised that you redescovervwhy you loved doing it

    It sounds like your doing every thing you can and using all the techniques you have been taught. I can emagen how frastrating it must be.
    Have they been doing better in their pen then when they have a larger space? If so could you not give them more time in there. I know itís not ideal but if they do better in smaller space like that maybe itís worth a try? Idk because Iím new to all this but it canít be all that bad if itís going to help in the long run.

    I hope you manage to get some rest tonight.
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