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    Iím really sorry, maybe Iím worrying about nothing, but now Spencer isnít eating and is acting weird, aside from a couple of pieces of kale he hasnít eaten anything since Iíve been home.

    He let me stroke him then he ran away and hid in the tunnel that connects the hutch to the run.

    When he came out he was just sitting in various corners of the run. He let me pick him up without any resistance, which is completely unlike him.

    He is inside on the sofa and heís sat with his head in the corner, eyes half open not moving.

    He wonít touch his nuggets, dried forage, kale, or banana.

    I donít know what to do, we canít afford to keep going to the out of hours vet, and it didnít help Frank who died a couple of hours after getting home.

    I really donít know what to do, I canít lose Spencer as well, I donít know if it is just depression because of Frank, or if they both have something wrong with them.

    He was absolutely fine this morning, this is killing me.


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    does he feel cold? can you try and mash up some pellet and force feed him? and if possible can you clean out any and all poops, so you can monitor output?

    some just can have a quiet day, but if he isn't eating anything, and nothing is coming out, sadly it is a cause for concern and you need to head to the vet again.

    I am sorry, you can not seem to catch a break rabbits are very fragile, in a span of half an hour something can go wrong.
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    How would I go about force feeding him.

    We are already booked in at the vets tomorrow morning, but if itís the same thing that Frank had he wonít last that long.

    He does feel quite cold, but I donít know if that is because heís been outside all day.


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    my advice

    get him to vet tonight

    if you can't, make sure you will be able to tell if he eats, drinks, poos & wee's & stay up with him all night.
    how much he does of each of the eat drink poo wee will tell you how much to worry. anything less than 2 out of 4 over the night is cause for concern.

    whatever the result, get him to the vet in the morning.

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    I am sorry Spencer is not well. Were they vaccinated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonibun View Post
    I am sorry Spencer is not well. Were they vaccinated?
    Yes, they were both vaccinated at the end of Feb, he should be having his RHD2 booster tomorrow


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    I'd take him to a vet personally.

    Syringe feeding - vets will have critical care and the large syringes for feeding.

    So if they give you gut meds and send you home ask for that aswell and how much they'd suggest you feeding and how often.

    Sorry be seems unwell

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    Iím really sorry Spencer is giving you cause for concern

    I know from my own experience how hideously expensive the emergency vets are but in your position I would try and get him seen tonight. The quicker you can nip potential stasis in the bud the better. If he doesnít improve overnight and you have to take him to the vet tomorrow morning he may have to be admitted which will end up costing you a lot more in the long run.

    If you can get him seen tonight, I would ask for a really thorough examination: tummy, ears, teeth, temperature and a blood glucose test to rule out a blockage. Make sure to get pain relief (ask for metacam. Some vets will give an injection of vetergesic, an opiate that makes some bunnies extremely drowsy which will make it harder for you to monitor his true condition), gut stimulants and recovery food (plus syringes) as you may need to syringe feed him overnight.

    Sending lots of vibes for Spencer. And also for you and your wife. Bunnies seem to have an awful habit of getting sick at really bad times and it does take a toll emotionally and financially. You really donít need this so soon after losing Frank


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    you would need syringes, most people use 15ml recovery ones, they're always handy to have in stock, but I appreciate you don't have any right now. but if you can, order some critical care and recovery syringes, much cheaper than through a vet.

    https://www.viovet.co.uk/Supreme-Rec...yringe/c27167/
    https://www.viovet.co.uk/Oxbow-Criti...l+care&sct_r=1

    for the moment, do you have any syringes lying around from medicine? they will work.

    get some pellet, if you have a blender you can blend it into a fine powder. could break the blender but mine was so cheap it doesn't matter for me. if not, boil some water, add it to some pellet in like a cereal bowl or something. I break mine up and mash it the entire time, but others leave them to soak for an hour or so. if you can get it into a paste, mine will sometimes eat it from the spoon, or you need to suck it up via syringe and force it into their mouth. but as you don't have recovery food this can be a bit more difficult. if you can blend it into a paste, just add water until its able to be sucked up into a syringe.

    if you can, and if there are stores open (my sainsburys is right now) go to sainsburys and get some of ellas baby food. get the veggie ones (no potato) and offer them some, either via a syringe or on a spoon. they're not ideal, critical care would be better due to fibre, but its to keep his stomach moving.

    if you have any metacam, I would be inclined to give some as it wouldn't do any harm.

    the reason why stasis kills is because of the gas buildup, the stomach doesn't stop because there is no food in it, hence why they need to keep eating. the gas builds up and spreads to other organs and eventually causes mass organ failure. or, it can be a blockage.

    fair also about being cold due to outside, I forgot about that so ignore it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappy's Little Helper View Post
    Iím really sorry Spencer is giving you cause for concern

    I know from my own experience how hideously expensive the emergency vets are but in your position I would try and get him seen tonight. The quicker you can nip potential stasis in the bud the better. If he doesnít improve overnight and you have to take him to the vet tomorrow morning he may have to be admitted which will end up costing you a lot more in the long run.

    If you can get him seen tonight, I would ask for a really thorough examination: tummy, ears, teeth, temperature and a blood glucose test to rule out a blockage. Make sure to get pain relief (ask for metacam. Some vets will give an injection of vetergesic, an opiate that makes some bunnies extremely drowsy which will make it harder for you to monitor his true condition), gut stimulants and recovery food (plus syringes) as you may need to syringe feed him overnight.

    Sending lots of vibes for Spencer. And also for you and your wife. Bunnies seem to have an awful habit of getting sick at really bad times and it does take a toll emotionally and financially. You really donít need this so soon after losing Frank


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    I agree about the vetergesic - I really dislike it for a bun with stasis and would avoid it

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