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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie B View Post
    Thank you both . I'll certainly mention UTI as well, MM. I think that's why Filip wants to do an ultrasound as well, to see if he can see stones as the scan should show them up even if they're only small, apparently. I hope it's not stones - my husband doesn't think she'll survive surgery .

    When do you get the urine sample results back Angie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMax View Post
    I hope it isn't stones.

    Is the ultrasound booked?
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    Hopefully the U/S wont show any stones. I have had a few Rabbits who have undergone Cystotomies and they all did well. One Bunny was 11 when she had the op' ! So almost 7 is not 'old' as such
    No, the ultrasound's not booked yet but I think it will be this week. She will be lightly sedated for that as she shakes like a leaf for a general check over and/or a pedicure, so she wouldn't cope with being shaved and then an u/s so at least they'll have an idea what her reaction to a light dose would be.

    With luck the results from the urine test won't show any crystals so it'll mean it's something more easily treated, but we'll see. I think Adrian's worried because she's, erm, fat and so frightened, but hopefully she'll be okay. But we can't leave her as she is as something is evidently very wrong. We just hope she doesn't need an op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMax View Post
    When do you get the urine sample results back Angie?
    I don't know. They were sent off Friday evening. I might actually give the vets a ring tomorrow to find out - also to find out when they want her in for an U/S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie B View Post
    No, the ultrasound's not booked yet but I think it will be this week. She will be lightly sedated for that as she shakes like a leaf for a general check over and/or a pedicure, so she wouldn't cope with being shaved and then an u/s so at least they'll have an idea what her reaction to a light dose would be.

    With luck the results from the urine test won't show any crystals so it'll mean it's something more easily treated, but we'll see. I think Adrian's worried because she's, erm, fat and so frightened, but hopefully she'll be okay. But we can't leave her as she is as something is evidently very wrong. We just hope she doesn't need an op.

    Oh poor wee darling. I got urine test results back within 2 days after they were sent off to the lab.

    Do you use low calcium water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMax View Post
    Oh poor wee darling. I got urine test results back within 2 days after they were sent off to the lab.

    Do you use low calcium water?
    Phoned the vets this morning, the results should be back today and Filip should hopefully ring this afternoon with the results. Depending on what the results are will decide whether or not an ultrasound will be needed.

    No, we just use tap water which I believe is soft as we don't have to add salt in our dishwasher - I think if it was hard we would have to. We also get very little scale around bath taps etc which is also an indication of soft water. So I think in that case we don't have much calcium in our cold water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie B View Post
    Phoned the vets this morning, the results should be back today and Filip should hopefully ring this afternoon with the results. Depending on what the results are will decide whether or not an ultrasound will be needed.

    No, we just use tap water which I believe is soft as we don't have to add salt in our dishwasher - I think if it was hard we would have to. We also get very little scale around bath taps etc which is also an indication of soft water. So I think in that case we don't have much calcium in our cold water.
    This should tell you

    https://www.nwl.co.uk/_assets/docume...r_hardness.pdf



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    When we had our dishwasher we had to phone the water company to see how much salt to add - and they told us none as our water was soft, so I'm going by that. But thank you for that link, Jane.

    I've just spoken to the vet. Filip's had partial results back (it was the office manager who rang me, sadly he didn't know what results they were, just had the message from Filip to ring me). Because of the results Filip does want to do an ultrasound on Coco's abdomen so I'm to take her in on Wednesday morning, by 9am, and he'll do it around 11am. She'll be placed on a drip so her bladder is full - she'll be delighted I'm sure. She'll be lightly sedated for both procedures, I will make sure they do it for the shaving otherwise she'll pass out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie B View Post
    When we had our dishwasher we had to phone the water company to see how much salt to add - and they told us none as our water was soft, so I'm going by that. But thank you for that link, Jane.

    I've just spoken to the vet. Filip's had partial results back (it was the office manager who rang me, sadly he didn't know what results they were, just had the message from Filip to ring me). Because of the results Filip does want to do an ultrasound on Coco's abdomen so I'm to take her in on Wednesday morning, by 9am, and he'll do it around 11am. She'll be placed on a drip so her bladder is full - she'll be delighted I'm sure. She'll be lightly sedated for both procedures, I will make sure they do it for the shaving otherwise she'll pass out!
    I hope that all will go well for her on Wednesday xx



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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie B View Post
    Phoned the vets this morning, the results should be back today and Filip should hopefully ring this afternoon with the results. Depending on what the results are will decide whether or not an ultrasound will be needed.

    No, we just use tap water which I believe is soft as we don't have to add salt in our dishwasher - I think if it was hard we would have to. We also get very little scale around bath taps etc which is also an indication of soft water. So I think in that case we don't have much calcium in our cold water.

    It sounds like your tap water is quite OK Angie, and not containing a lot of calcium
    (for the rabbits, that is!)

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    Ultrasound was done this morning but Coco appears to have sludge in her bladder as well which gave them problems when doing the U/S so they phoned and said they were going to do an xray as well. This proved inconclusive - there is something there but they're not sure what as it didn't show up very well in the xray either. Luckily they didn't need to shave or clip Coco's fur, they simply used masses of the gel instead to wet it. It's non-toxic and they wiped her down after by the look of it, so she'll be able to wash the rest off herself. She stinks though so I'm so glad I took them both in as normal or I fear Thumper would have rejected her the smell is so bad! She's now on a special medication twice a day - I must google it actually/read the leaflet to find out exactly what it's for. Filip said it's an antibiotic but quite a strong one as it has to be diluted when given as it's very alkaline, so I think it's to help break down the crystals which are definitely present. There's NO BLOOD in her urine though, that result was a definite negative so Filip thinks it's the bacteria and sludge and crystals coming out in her wee which is giving the colour, even though it's drying brown, but if the tests say no blood then I can't argue with that - but it is a relief.

    Filip is going to talk to a specialist friend of his and also send him all of the results. This may end up with us taking Coco (and Thumper) on a 1.5hr car journey to this chap's clinic where they have special endoscopy equipment for them to give Coco a GA and insert said endoscopy into her genitals so they can get a camera up there into the bladder to have a proper look to see what's in there. We'll know on Friday or the weekend what's happening as he's got to phone him and it's to do with shifts etc. so he reckons it'll be Friday before we hear.

    So for now, Coco's on pain relief daily, plus this new stuff twice a day. She's absolutely delighted at being manhandled so much as I'm sure you can imagine, poor thing! But with luck she'll soon be sorted out. She's fine in herself though despite the manhandling (so far anyway!), which is fab .
    Last edited by Angie B; 21-03-2018 at 02:20 PM.

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