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    Quote Originally Posted by loobers25 View Post
    That's what I'm thinking, simple ingredients.

    Well it's strange because when he started his heart therapy I completely relaxed as I thought this would fix things. I started doing normal things again like watching TV without having the feeling to check on him all the time. I felt like things went back to normal. The day Toby got gas again I went into his room to feed him and me and my husband where in fits of laughter as he did the biggest frog leap binky when I came in. Then he ate his dinner and ended up at anton vets for three days i would definitely say my stress doesn't help things right now, but during that time I felt ok? Xx

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    I like the sound of a frog leap binky! Yeah it's hard not to stress when you are worrying about them.

    Is he moving around as much as he used to? I know my buns chase each other which must help their guts

    We only give them 10g of pellets between the two of them 3 times a day. Small portions little and often. I thought they only have tiny tummies and I always feel stuffed after eating too much food myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loobers25 View Post
    That's what I'm thinking, simple ingredients.

    Well it's strange because when he started his heart therapy I completely relaxed as I thought this would fix things. I started doing normal things again like watching TV without having the feeling to check on him all the time. I felt like things went back to normal. The day Toby got gas again I went into his room to feed him and me and my husband where in fits of laughter as he did the biggest frog leap binky when I came in. Then he ate his dinner and ended up at anton vets for three days i would definitely say my stress doesn't help things right now, but during that time I felt ok? Xx
    I know what you mean. I remember when I had bunnies that were constantly going into stasis, I used to stress them out so much by keep checking on them!
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    Hi loobers. Just on the subject of treating Toby at home- ask the vet for some meds. I have given Bob metacam and zantac at the first sign of discomfort- belly pressing- since I had some left over from January and this acted quickly- never had to give him the metachlorpromide. I think the stress of being in pain just makes it rapidly worse so to ease that really does seem to nip it in the bud.
    Also we have changed how we feed him- little by little as I do think bolting his food was partly responsible as he often had episodes straight after eating too.
    Hope Toby continues to be well x

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuliaW View Post
    Hi loobers. Just on the subject of treating Toby at home- ask the vet for some meds. I have given Bob metacam and zantac at the first sign of discomfort- belly pressing- since I had some left over from January and this acted quickly- never had to give him the metachlorpromide. I think the stress of being in pain just makes it rapidly worse so to ease that really does seem to nip it in the bud.
    Also we have changed how we feed him- little by little as I do think bolting his food was partly responsible as he often had episodes straight after eating too.
    Hope Toby continues to be well x

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    Thank you for messaging! I am definitely going to ask about meds at home, I will call him Monday as I can't live my life like this wondering when I'm going to have to drive him nearly an hour away for these episodes. If you don't mind me asking, what changes did you make for Bob regarding his diet? Xx

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    Hi. It's a bit different compared to Toby as we have really reduced his veg intake. Stopped carrot altogether- only gave a small amount but seemed to trigger. We now give him things he is not fussed for (like celery) first so he doesn't bolt it but he is hungry so he eats it and then small bits of veg he does like some time after. We do give egg cup of Burgess pellets to get him to go to bed but this does not seem to be the problem. He has lost some weight but looks better for it and eats more hay. He annoyingly has a thing for the outrageously expensive Burgess Timothy dandelion and marigold.
    Also we dried a lot of willow at the end of last year which he loves and does not upset him. It has a natural analgesic properties that can't hurt. If Toby won't eat wet things as soon as rabbit friendly trees come into leaf you could start drying them?
    I think there is a lot of trial and error with observations and each rabbit is different.
    Try not to stress -you are a great bunny mum and Toby(and Maple) are lucky to have you x

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    No advice, just sending you and your bunny some feel better vibes.

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    My bunny Freddie is also frequently getting gas and Iíve also been driving back and forth to the specialists. Iíve started treating him with simeticone and belly rubs and he seems to improve on his own. Iím starting to think maybe itís his hay thatís causing it but surely that canít be the case? I suspected Science Selective pellets but heís getting gas again when not on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loobers25 View Post
    That's what I'm thinking, simple ingredients.

    Well it's strange because when he started his heart therapy I completely relaxed as I thought this would fix things. I started doing normal things again like watching TV without having the feeling to check on him all the time. I felt like things went back to normal. The day Toby got gas again I went into his room to feed him and me and my husband where in fits of laughter as he did the biggest frog leap binky when I came in. Then he ate his dinner and ended up at anton vets for three days i would definitely say my stress doesn't help things right now, but during that time I felt ok? Xx

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    We must be passing each other on the M3. Freddie is also one of John Chittyís regulars! We appear to be going through the same thing with our buns. Unfortunately X-rays and bloods didnít find anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoe2112 View Post
    My bunny Freddie is also frequently getting gas and Iíve also been driving back and forth to the specialists. Iíve started treating him with simeticone and belly rubs and he seems to improve on his own. Iím starting to think maybe itís his hay thatís causing it but surely that canít be the case? I suspected Science Selective pellets but heís getting gas again when not on it.
    Hi neighbour!

    I have a few questions.

    What brand of hay do you use and where do you buy it?

    What treats do you give?

    Where did Freddie come from?

    How old is Freddie and when did he start getting these episodes.

    The day that Toby had his last episode he ate his breakfast in around two seconds. So maybe I'm thinking he's swallowing in them whole then they are expanding in his tummy perhaps? I have took him off excel and in the mean time I'm using digestive health sticks so he has to take longer to chew.

    Does Freddie eat quickly?

    Xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by loobers25 View Post
    Hi neighbour!

    I have a few questions.

    What brand of hay do you use and where do you buy it?

    What treats do you give?

    Where did Freddie come from?

    How old is Freddie and when did he start getting these episodes.

    The day that Toby had his last episode he ate his breakfast in around two seconds. So maybe I'm thinking he's swallowing in them whole then they are expanding in his tummy perhaps? I have took him off excel and in the mean time I'm using digestive health sticks so he has to take longer to chew.

    Does Freddie eat quickly?

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    Thank you for the reply, has Toby had xrays and bloods done?

    Hay-wise he has had a combination. Previously Oxbow oat hay (Amazon), Alfalfa King timothy hay (P@H), Burgess Excel Feeding Hay (Dandelion and Marigold) (P@H), meadow hay maxi pack (The Range) - recently bought for litter tray but he eats it too.

    Treats: Readigrass, occasional Naturals Carrotys (crunchy treats)

    I don't give him fresh fruit and veg at the moment for fear of gas but will give romaine to hide Infacol if he is gassy

    I bought Freddie from someone in Totton. He is 7 months old, he started getting the episodes 9 days after his neuter in February (hospitalised with GI stasis) but before his neuter he was very picky with food so I had been to the vets regarding this as I'd tried so many different types of pellets. He has been hospitalised again this month due to gas and had his investigations done. He almost went in last week as he was gassy and uncomfortable when I went home at lunchtime but I gave him some Infacol and syringe fed him some water and he was fine when I got home after work so the vets said I didn't need to come in.

    He doesn't hoover his food so I don't think that causes it. When I am at work he is quite sedatory (I can check in on him on the pet cam) but I don't know whether that is a cause or a symptom. He's now on VetCare Digestive Plus sticks but he is still getting gas and this morning he wasn't interested in them, someone has suggested trying Oxbow but I think I might need to try him on just a hay diet first but I'm worried about him not getting enough nutrients without fresh veg.

    At one point I suspected that he was eating his Back2Nature litter so that is why he now has the meadow hay as that covers the newspaper in his litter tray. As he's still getting gas I guess that wasn't the cause either.

    Part of me wonders whether he would bring himself out of it if I didn't notice and start fussing over him, though I found him in GI stasis when I worked late and had been out for 12 hours so I don't know whether he had gas to start with which progressed due to not being treated. It's an absolute minefield!

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