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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMax View Post
    It's really weird and worrying for you.

    This might be completely out of order, and I totally accept that William is an expert in exotics, but would he be prepared to run the details of Fleur's case by another exotics vet? Sometimes when you're that close to something and it's been ongoing, you might just get someone else to shed a glimmer of light on it?


    There's a fab exotics vet in London he could mail the details to:

    Matthew Fiddes

    http://www.cjhall-vets.co.uk/staff.asp
    Yeaa I'm not sure how I'd even ask him that he looked at what the other exotic vet at his vets had written in the notes and said he agreed with what she had done so far.. I'd happily get another opinion etc but not sure how I'd ask him to consult someone else... Bit awkward maybe?

    It's difficult because he said earlier she looks good - but he said he wouldn't expect to see the gas where it was and even though she seems bright and happy in herself obviously she's just not functioning right... But she doesn't have to because I've been keeping her going... And if I stop she just goes down hill again. Not sure about it all honestly and I'm very worried about adhesions that sounds terrible xx

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    Would a rabbit flop if it's in pain?

    Like when they throw themselves down?


    My other two do this all the time, but I never see Fleur flop and she's just thrown herself down twice.. Idk I'm super worried about her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graciee View Post
    Would a rabbit flop if it's in pain?

    Like when they throw themselves down?


    My other two do this all the time, but I never see Fleur flop and she's just thrown herself down twice.. Idk I'm super worried about her

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    There's a marked difference between a 'happy flop' and a 'pain flop'. With the latter the Rabbit is likely to keep doing it in an agitated and restless way. There respiratory rate may be raised too and their ears will be in the 'anxious' position

    https://www.nc3rs.org.uk/rabbit-grimace-scale


    The Rabbit Welfare Association and Fund (RWAF)- The UK'S biggest and best organisation for Rabbit lovers

    https://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/

    Rabbit Health and Diseases, a list of useful online information

    http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/sh...ealth-Problems

    Myxomatosis, RHD1 and RHD2- VACCINATION IS ESSENTIAL

    http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/sh...60#post7041560

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graciee View Post
    Would a rabbit flop if it's in pain?

    Like when they throw themselves down?


    My other two do this all the time, but I never see Fleur flop and she's just thrown herself down twice.. Idk I'm super worried about her

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    I think is possible. when joey is uncomfortable he hunches but i've seen boo flop when uncomfy (shes big on flops anyway). Its natural to be worried about any new behaviour. Are they comfy looking flops or does she seem stressed? x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack's-Jane View Post
    Just thinking out loud here - what about a problem within the rectum/anus. Polyps for example, too high up to be seen externally.

    *Gross images alert*

    http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/GI_dise...l/anal_pap.htm


    Or a problem involving the anal sphincter- Proctalgia

    http://ddc.musc.edu/public/symptoms/proctalgia.html

    Have you mentioned Fleur's fecal poo pulling out to William ?

    Would an endoscopy be an option Fleur sounds to be feeling relatively well within herself, I can understand your about the thought of her undergoing major gut surgery or worse.
    I've been out all day and have just read through all the latest posts on Fleur.

    Jane might have a point here regarding a physical problem, which is preventing the fecal poo coming out. My reasoning is that, from what you have said, she does not appear to be in pain (although gas has been seen). She might however "sense" that she feels full and so does not want to eat very much for that reason rather than pain. I have never seen a rabbit attempt to pull the poo out and I think this is a significant observation. I think it's worth discussing with William (not the vet nurses).

    I think I would limit the veg at the moment and concentrate on giving her the cc and some herbs. She's also eating hay I think.
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    Okay she's not good, she's got a catheter in and I've gotta give fluids and pain meds through the night :'( 17 blood glucose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graciee View Post
    Okay she's not good, she's got a catheter in and I've gotta give fluids and pain meds through the night :'( 17 blood glucose

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    poor baby. Millions of vibes for lovely Fleur xx

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    Sending loads of vibes for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graciee View Post
    Okay she's not good, she's got a catheter in and I've gotta give fluids and pain meds through the night :'( 17 blood glucose

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    Loads of vibes xx

    If the vet suspects a cecal impaction (which causes gut slowdown and no poos) then please don't restrict the wet leafy greens. Fibre and moisture are essential, but of course check with William or whoever is on duty.

    Let me know if I can do anything. You know where I am.

    Thinking of you xxx

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    Thanks everyone so so much <3 I'm going to offer her kale and herbs again bit scared about giving the pain meds and water through the ear thing but vet let me do the water whilst we was there and it went fine so hopefully I won't **** it up, if there's any issues ima go straight to vets4pets I'm sure they could fix a leaky ear catheter..


    Also vet said don't feed her because she looks very full. But leaving greens out if she wants is okay right? She just said no cc.

    Also her xray shows gas has disapated it's now all over the place in smaller bits which is good I think....?

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