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    Hi,

    One of my rabbits had a lump on her jaw so I took her to the vets tonight and itís an abscess, the vet drained 30ml of gunk out of it 🤢

    Sheís on antibiotics and pain relief, and the vet has recommended an X-ray to see if itís tooth roots related, but then what?

    I want to go armed with as much info as possible, as Iím not sure how rabbit savvy this vet is..

    So if itís tooth roots, whatís next, do the offending teeth/roots get removed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckie20 View Post
    Hi,

    One of my rabbits had a lump on her jaw so I took her to the vets tonight and itís an abscess, the vet drained 30ml of gunk out of it 🤢

    Sheís on antibiotics and pain relief, and the vet has recommended an X-ray to see if itís tooth roots related, but then what?

    I want to go armed with as much info as possible, as Iím not sure how rabbit savvy this vet is..

    So if itís tooth roots, whatís next, do the offending teeth/roots get removed?

    Hi there

    I'm sorry, abscesses (especially jaw) are difficult, I cannot lie.

    I have dealt with dozens of them, but the good news is that many of them have a successful outcome

    There is never 'one size fits all" with rabbit abscesses. In the past - when bicillin was briefly used here in the uk - abscesses were very bad news indeed. I have had many rabbits with abscesses and the care has got so much better since the early 2000's.

    There are several options you can choose from. Your rabbit can have surgery (plus x-rays if you like), and perhaps have antibiotic beads sewn into the wound site. Then what often happens is they take a long course of antibiotics. Possibly a long acting penicillin - this is the only legal version here in the UK. Bicillin is only possible on a 'named patient' version. By the time you get the permit to give a rabbit Bicillin, it may be too late ...

    One option I have tried several times recently is the 'lance and drain' technique. It's light sedation for the rabbit as opposed to a GA and big operation. The abscess can be lanced under light sedation, and drained. You as the owner will then have to clean this out, and perhaps pack the cavity with high grade Manuka Honey to keep it clean and promote healing. This would have to be done for up to two weeks in order to let the wound heal from the inside out. Injectable penicillin can also be given every day to begin with - you can do these yourself. The injections may become every other day and continue for several months.

    Some people are against this 'lance and drain' method, and say that it doesn't work, but my rabbits are living proof that it *does* work. My rabbits using this method have not had a recurrence of the abscess many years later. It does however involve a lot of 'hands on work' for you and your rabbit may not like it either.

    This is a long essay - sorry Please PM me if I can help further ...... I hope it gives you a bit more perspective on something that is very common in rabbits and is no longer necessarily a death sentence.


    And some bedtime reading .....

    http://www.all-creatures.com/blog-Ab...n+Rabbits.html

    http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Dental_...abs_dental.htm

    http://www.rabbitwelfare.co.uk/resou.../abscesses.htm

    http://rabbit.org/abcesses-in-rabbits/

    http://www.ivis.org/proceedings/navc...E/615.pdf?LA=1

    http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Dental_..._dentistry.pdf

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    I've had a rabbit who was treated successfully with a jaw abscess. It was not associated with tooth roots. My rabbit had the abscess removed surgically and had antibiotic beads inserted into the wound. The wound was stitched up and then I gave her daily Penicillin injections for, I think, 2 or 3 weeks. She recovered well and the wound healed very quickly. Despite my vet warning that the abscess sometimes returns, it didn't.

    I hope your rabbit has a good outcome with whatever treatment is arranged.

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    No advice, but wanted to say get well soon to your poorly girl.

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    Now Iím concerned.

    I had the last appointment of the day, so the draining wasnít even done under sedation, all Iíve got is some metacam and Baytril, and a check up Friday.

    I used to have such good vets but over the years theyíve left and the new ones just arenít that rabbit savvy

    Thank you for all the info, I will get reading!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckie20 View Post
    Now I’m concerned.

    I had the last appointment of the day, so the draining wasn’t even done under sedation, all I’ve got is some metacam and Baytril, and a check up Friday.

    I used to have such good vets but over the years they’ve left and the new ones just aren’t that rabbit savvy

    Thank you for all the info, I will get reading!
    I think you need to feel confident in your vet. What you could do is post a thread asking for rabbit savvy vet recommendations in your area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckie20 View Post
    Now Iím concerned.

    I had the last appointment of the day, so the draining wasnít even done under sedation, all Iíve got is some metacam and Baytril, and a check up Friday.

    I used to have such good vets but over the years theyíve left and the new ones just arenít that rabbit savvy

    Thank you for all the info, I will get reading!

    This is sad to hear Beckie

    If you want to find a good vet in your area (and I suggest you take your rabbit to see one) then you can start another thread in Rabbit Chat with the header:


    Rabbit Savvy Vet needed in (your location)

    ...and members will help you out with their recommendations.

    Alternatively you could look here:

    https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/vet...ecommendations


    http://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/rabbit-ca...ndly-vet-list/

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    Just so you know, I requested an appointment with the exotics specialist vet at one of the other branches, my bun has had the abscesses cleared out and stitched open (which looks much less gruesome than I had pictured in my mind!

    The vet was reluctant to put her under a full general anaesthetic as sheís 8 and a half, but is hopeful today will do the trick - if not, itíll be a proper op to insert antibiotics beads etc.

    Ivan Crotaz works for my vets (different branch) once a week, but was fully booked on the day I first took her in, so when heís back in the new year I can take her to see him if all is still not well.

    Fingers crossed.

    Iím lucky Iíve just been made redundant as £300 just before xmas is not ideal

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    This sounds positive Is she also on antibiotics?

    I really hope she progresses well. Abscesses are horrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckie20 View Post
    Just so you know, I requested an appointment with the exotics specialist vet at one of the other branches, my bun has had the abscesses cleared out and stitched open (which looks much less gruesome than I had pictured in my mind!

    The vet was reluctant to put her under a full general anaesthetic as sheís 8 and a half, but is hopeful today will do the trick - if not, itíll be a proper op to insert antibiotics beads etc.

    Ivan Crotaz works for my vets (different branch) once a week, but was fully booked on the day I first took her in, so when heís back in the new year I can take her to see him if all is still not well.

    Fingers crossed.

    Iím lucky Iíve just been made redundant as £300 just before xmas is not ideal

    Hi Beckie

    I'm glad she has seen a good vet and it sounds like some good treatment. Did you come away with any pain relief such as Metacam, or antibiotics - injectable penicillin? Do you know your vet's thoughts on that?

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