Fallen leaves

glitterdust · Oct 2, 2017

Today is really really windy and the leaves are falling into the run, mostly it is them sycamore things that look like propellers. As soon as I clean up more come, I am fighting a losing battle. Should I keep the rabbits in on windy days or are they fine to eat them. I do not know the names of the trees but there is quite a few large trees outside my back garden and today the wind is so bad it's a nightmare. Also what causes a pooey bum. Norah has a problem with her bum, poop sticks to it so bad. I have cut the hairs around It to see if that helps ,she does seem to struggle to eat her blackberry poop (sorry forgot name) and she just squashes them, If you give too many herbs does it cause softer poops or is it the pellets.thanks

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Omi · Oct 2, 2017

I have never fed Sycamore, but that's more because I don't have access to a Sycamore tree. I have looked at my usual online sources and Sycamore is not included in the list of safe trees. http://kanin.org/node/190 and http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/GI_diseases/Food/Branch/Branch_en.htm.

I did find it on a safe list on another site, but that site also listed trees as unsafe that I consider to be safe (Alder, Beech, Buddleia) https://www.thespruce.com/safe-woods-and-plants-for-rabbits-1239351

It's very difficult to obtain accurate information regarding trees and whether they are safe for rabbits. Perhaps someone else will have an accurate answer as to whether it is safe or not.

A mucky bum is more likely to be caused by the pellets than the herbs.

glitterdust · Oct 2, 2017

Omi said:
I have never fed Sycamore, but that's more because I don't have access to a Sycamore tree. I have looked at my usual online sources and Sycamore is not included in the list of safe trees. http://kanin.org/node/190 and http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/GI_diseases/Food/Branch/Branch_en.htm.

I did find it on a safe list on another site, but that site also listed trees as unsafe that I consider to be safe (Alder, Beech, Buddleia) https://www.thespruce.com/safe-woods-and-plants-for-rabbits-1239351

It's very difficult to obtain accurate information regarding trees and whether they are safe for rabbits. Perhaps someone else will have an accurate answer as to whether it is safe or not.

A mucky bum is more likely to be caused by the pellets than the herbs.

Thank you, the first list states oak is safe but I have read somewhere it isn't. Would you say oak was safe or not.

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Omi · Oct 2, 2017

glitterdust said:
Thank you, the first list states oak is safe but I have read somewhere it isn't. Would you say oak was safe or not.

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Do you mean the kanin.org list? I've never noticed that before :? I'll have another look. No, I would not say that Oak is safe. We actually have a large Oak tree and the leaves blow into the rabbit run, but they always ignore them.

glitterdust · Oct 2, 2017

Omi said:
Do you mean the kanin.org list? I've never noticed that before :? I'll have another look. No, I would not say that Oak is safe. We actually have a large Oak tree and the leaves blow into the rabbit run, but they always ignore them.

It states willow ,oak and a few others with Tanins help prevent Coccidiosis. This means nothing to me by the way [emoji846] further down it isn't mentioned as safe though. I guess the best thing i I can do today is stay in the garden with the sweeping brush. [emoji3]

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MightyMax · Oct 2, 2017

glitterdust said:
Today is really really windy and the leaves are falling into the run, mostly it is them sycamore things that look like propellers. As soon as I clean up more come, I am fighting a losing battle. Should I keep the rabbits in on windy days or are they fine to eat them. I do not know the names of the trees but there is quite a few large trees outside my back garden and today the wind is so bad it's a nightmare. Also what causes a pooey bum. Norah has a problem with her bum, poop sticks to it so bad. I have cut the hairs around It to see if that helps ,she does seem to struggle to eat her blackberry poop (sorry forgot name) and she just squashes them, If you give too many herbs does it cause softer poops or is it the pellets.thanks

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Just to add to the advice you've already been given, plants and leaves are rarely toxic to rabbits unless ingested in quantity. I've had rabbits eat blown down leaves and blossom, and you can't get to clear it all up!

Short of grounding them for the whole of Autumn, I think you just do your best and rely on a rabbit's instinct.

Info here:

https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/articles/free-food-for-rabbits/lant-toxicity-the-problem-with-lists

Pellets are full of carbs and protein, and those are the usual culprits with regards to soft poops that don't get eaten!

glitterdust · Oct 2, 2017

MightyMax said:
Just to add to the advice you've already been given, plants and leaves are rarely toxic to rabbits unless ingested in quantity. I've had rabbits eat blown down leaves and blossom, and you can't get to clear it all up!

Short of grounding them for the whole of Autumn, I think you just do your best and rely on a rabbit's instinct.

Info here:

https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/articles/free-food-for-rabbits/lant-toxicity-the-problem-with-lists

Pellets are full of carbs and protein, and those are the usual culprits with regards to soft poops that don't get eaten!

Thank you, probably because I upped her pellets so she would gain weight. I will reduce them back down again.

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daphnephoebe · Oct 2, 2017

MightyMax said:
Just to add to the advice you've already been given, plants and leaves are rarely toxic to rabbits unless ingested in quantity. I've had rabbits eat blown down leaves and blossom, and you can't get to clear it all up!

Short of grounding them for the whole of Autumn, I think you just do your best and rely on a rabbit's instinct.

Info here:

https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/articles/free-food-for-rabbits/lant-toxicity-the-problem-with-lists

Pellets are full of carbs and protein, and those are the usual culprits with regards to soft poops that don't get eaten!

This.

Generally the leaves falling off will have little to no quantity of chemicals in them (Sorry, brain fog - I'll change wording if the right ones pop up) so they are going to be of low risk to bun. Just clear up what you can, maybe use fly netting over the bottom half of run to prevent them blowing in and try not to worry too much.

Mine eat cherry leaves that fall off over autumn and they're considered a no no.

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mini lop1 · Oct 2, 2017

i know the helicopters off sycamores can be fatal to horses, unsure on rabbits, but when neighbours tree dropped its helicopter and leaves, I always picked them up and binned them, this year not had problem as they cut the tree down

Lagomorphine · Oct 2, 2017

Just my personal opinion, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. My rabbits live in the garden and when they come out for free range time, they eat anything. Leaves, shrubs, weeds, potted and wild plants. On one occasion they actually climbed into the green garden waste bag to fish out some wilted flowers we had thrown out; looking at them you would have thought they were having a gourmet meal. The irony of it is that of course they have full access to high quality hay (they like the Burgess stuff with marigold and dandelion) replaced twice a day, fresh vegetables, plus the recommended amount of pellets (again, Burgess Excel). Despite their carefully selected diet, I get the impression sometimes they actually prefer any odd weed they can find. The article by Harcourt Brown (see link above) seems to suggest that plant toxicity does not seem to be a problem ("As a vet who specialised in treating pet rabbits, I have never seen a case of plant toxicity."). I check their poos every day, so I would notice any problems.

Same with good old Toffy we had before, in 7 years we were fortunate enough never to have any digestive problems.

glitterdust · Oct 2, 2017

Lagomorphine said:
Just my personal opinion, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. My rabbits live in the garden and when they come out for free range time, they eat anything. Leaves, shrubs, weeds, potted and wild plants. On one occasion they actually climbed into the green garden waste bag to fish out some wilted flowers we had thrown out; looking at them you would have thought they were having a gourmet meal. The irony of it is that of course they have full access to high quality hay (they like the Burgess stuff with marigold and dandelion) replaced twice a day, fresh vegetables, plus the recommended amount of pellets (again, Burgess Excel). Despite their carefully selected diet, I get the impression sometimes they actually prefer any odd weed they can find. The article by Harcourt Brown (see link above) seems to suggest that plant toxicity does not seem to be a problem ("As a vet who specialised in treating pet rabbits, I have never seen a case of plant toxicity."). I check their poos every day, so I would notice any problems.

Same with good old Toffy we had before, in 7 years we were fortunate enough never to have any digestive problems.

Thank you, I suppose the amount they eat would not cause a problem. On the days it isn't windy I can keep on top of it, today i have had no chance, I gave them some bramble leaves and they seemed to avoid the ones falling off the trees. They do seem to want to have a taste of anything and everything involving leaves, twigs and flowers though.i didn't think rabbits were so greedy. How wrong was I. [emoji4]

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Lagomorphine · Oct 2, 2017

glitterdust said:
They do seem to want to have a taste of anything and everything involving leaves, twigs and flowers though.i didn't think rabbits were so greedy.

Very true. It never stops amazing me - when I let them out in the evening, they start grazing like they are starving. Their digestive system is something out of this world. And yes, they want to taste everything, absolutely. Interestingly sometimes mine turn their nose at cultivated plants; on one occasion I offered them some spinach, they ate one leaf and left the rest.

If you feel worried, sure, you can sweep up the leaves but I seriously doubt they would come to any harm just by eating the odd thing that you wouldn't normally put in their bowl.

kattymieoww · Oct 3, 2017

I no longer have rabbits,however there are two sycamore trees in a landscaped grass area behind my house and I get thousands of whirly seeds blown in,and the leaves!I do know that the local grey squirrels consume the seeds with relish.

glitterdust · Oct 3, 2017

kattymieoww said:
I no longer have rabbits,however there are two sycamore trees in a landscaped grass area behind my house and I get thousands of whirly seeds blown in,and the leaves!I do know that the local grey squirrels consume the seeds with relish.

That is good to know. My Jimmy did consume some yesterday and he seems fine today so I don't think I will leave it on my list of bunny worries for now. My main concern now is blowing the microwave up after heating 4 snuggle safes [emoji3] it's a little bit hot. [emoji4]

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