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    Quote Originally Posted by Button View Post
    That is great, thank you!
    I will pop to my vets after I finish work tomorrow and ask for a bit of advice and set up an appointment. Then pick up some grass readigrass and whatever they suggest food wise. I'll update you on what they say.
    I hope that he will be okay! He is such an affectionate little thing and just gets more cheeky each day. He loves to cuddle and for the first time since I brought him home chose to go to my husband and sit on his shoulder and groomed his beard!

    Let me know how you get on. He looks like an absolute darling from your Avatar

    As I mentioned in my first post to you, it may be that the vet will prescribe a probiotic. The one I recommended, Avipro, is also a prebiotic - which is very helpful for gut bacteria.

    Sometimes it can be much cheaper to get this sort of thing online

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack's-Jane View Post
    It's very unlikely that your Rabbit is effected, but one condition I was referring to is called 'Megacolon'

    https://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/wp-conte...-Megacolon.pdf

    http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/GI_dise...ga/mega_en.htm

    My Rabbit is suspected of having a condition called 'Dysautonomia', for him it effects his GI tract, his brain (he has seizures/absences) and his heart. I think the chances of your Rabbit having this condition are absolutely minimal.

    We went through a battery of diagnostics to try to obtain a definitive diagnosis, but Dysautonomia is near on impossible to diagnose in a live Rabbit. For my Rabbit the diagnosis is assumed based on all other possibilities drawing a blank. My Rabbit's GI tract symptoms are managed by keeping him on a pellet free diet, just one pellet of any type will cause him huge problems. He has a variety of hays and forages, dried grass, fresh and dried herbs and some Vegetables, mostly dark leafy greens, carrot tops, kale and occasionally Broccoli.

    On the advice of an Exotics Specialist Vet my Rabbit also has a dietary supplement called Avipro Plus. It is a water soluble Prebiotic. Prebiotics are not destroyed by gastric acid (unlike Probiotics) and Prebiotics can aid the absorption of dietary nutrients.

    http://www.vetuk.co.uk/dog-supplemen...ro-plus-p-1225

    Until my Rabbit started having Avipro he struggled to maintain his weight. Now he is doing really well in that respect.

    Hopefully you will be able to find a diet that suits your Rabbit's 'delicate' GI tract and also meets his nutritional needs.
    The poor thing! I bet it's heartbreaking to see him go through that. I'm glad you was able to find out how to manage it, and keep his weight up. He is a lucky bun to have such a devoted mum!
    I am hoping that he has an intolerance asbive read that some rabbits struggle with some of the 'fillers' used in rabbit food. I've got an appointment to see a very rabbit savy vet tomorrow after work so I am hoping she can get to the bottom of the problem (no pun intended haha!) I will ask about the things you mentioned and see what she thinks.

    Thank you so much for your advice, it's extremely helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMax View Post
    Let me know how you get on. He looks like an absolute darling from your Avatar

    As I mentioned in my first post to you, it may be that the vet will prescribe a probiotic. The one I recommended, Avipro, is also a prebiotic - which is very helpful for gut bacteria.

    Sometimes it can be much cheaper to get this sort of thing online
    He is such a dear little thing bless him, He has an appointment tomorrow at 5.30 so I will let you know how he gets on.
    Thank you again!

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    I had exactly the same with one of my buns.
    Once I changed the pellets to science selective he was fine.
    There have been a few threads on here with rabbits not tolerating the burgess pellets.
    Good luck


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    Quote Originally Posted by Button View Post
    He is such a dear little thing bless him, He has an appointment tomorrow at 5.30 so I will let you know how he gets on.
    Thank you again!
    You're welcome

    Good luck tomorrow. I will be thinking of you both xx

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    Hello everyone!
    Sorry for the late reply yesterday was very busy. Hoggle was such a good boy at the vet yesterday, where he had a usual health check (everything was perfect) she said his stomach felt fine and that he should be able to survive on the hay I was providing alone, so procribed Fiberplex twice a day for a 2 days then try a different nugget but only give a few so if he reacts it won't be too bad. She said she usually recommends the one he was already having and to check online for an alternative. I've managed to find a grain and wheat free pellet so I'll give him a try on that on Friday.
    She said to try him on veg with a higher calorie count to put a bit of weight back on as he is very bony.
    And to keep an eye on him, if his poo goes back to the way it was (I managed to sort it out with the hay and readygrass!!) to come back and see her and she will do further tests.
    She said she thinks he may not be okay with an ingredient in the nuggets he was on and due to the reaction his gut has lost the bacteria it needs to work properly.
    So I'm keeping my fingers crossed this Fiberplex works and he puts the weight back on, and he is okay with the new pellets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Button View Post
    Hello everyone!
    Sorry for the late reply yesterday was very busy. Hoggle was such a good boy at the vet yesterday, where he had a usual health check (everything was perfect) she said his stomach felt fine and that he should be able to survive on the hay I was providing alone, so procribed Fiberplex twice a day for a 2 days then try a different nugget but only give a few so if he reacts it won't be too bad. She said she usually recommends the one he was already having and to check online for an alternative. I've managed to find a grain and wheat free pellet so I'll give him a try on that on Friday.
    She said to try him on veg with a higher calorie count to put a bit of weight back on as he is very bony.
    And to keep an eye on him, if his poo goes back to the way it was (I managed to sort it out with the hay and readygrass!!) to come back and see her and she will do further tests.
    She said she thinks he may not be okay with an ingredient in the nuggets he was on and due to the reaction his gut has lost the bacteria it needs to work properly.
    So I'm keeping my fingers crossed this Fiberplex works and he puts the weight back on, and he is okay with the new pellets!

    Hey, this is good news

    It sounds like you've a good vet there And well done you for sourcing another type of pellet

    I agree with your vet - proliferating the good bacteria is essential. As I mentioned in my first post, Avipro is a good probiotic:

    http://www.vetuk.co.uk/dog-supplemen...ro-plus-p-1225

    You can also use Bio Lapis, which some people have found to be a superior product, though it's a bit more expensive:

    https://www.viovet.co.uk/Protexin_Bi...SAAEgJUxvD_BwE

    But then it is made for rabbits


    What veg will you be trying? You have to balance it against the effect on 'output'. You could also try adding in a pinch of dry porridge oats twice daily to keep his appetite up

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMax View Post
    Hey, this is good news

    It sounds like you've a good vet there And well done you for sourcing another type of pellet

    I agree with your vet - proliferating the good bacteria is essential. As I mentioned in my first post, Avipro is a good probiotic:

    http://www.vetuk.co.uk/dog-supplemen...ro-plus-p-1225

    You can also use Bio Lapis, which some people have found to be a superior product, though it's a bit more expensive:

    https://www.viovet.co.uk/Protexin_Bi...SAAEgJUxvD_BwE

    But then it is made for rabbits


    What veg will you be trying? You have to balance it against the effect on 'output'. You could also try adding in a pinch of dry porridge oats twice daily to keep his appetite up
    I was so relieved she didn't think he had something terrible, I've not long got in from work and he has left lots of nesquik in
    His litter tray for me
    The pellets are new from select and are in pets at home for an introductory price of 4.50 for 1.5kg bag... it didn't say the full price but I expect it will be expensive... as all special dietary food is, hopefully he will be okay on them, if not it will mean a pellet free diet with me supplementing any probiotics and minerals he needs, but I'll speak with the vet before I get to that stage
    At the moment he has 3 dark lettuce types and rocket, fine beans, peas and baby corn, he doesn't like carrots or the tops, and he doesn't like kale. First rabbit I've ever had that didn't like them! I'm going to try him on some mixed herbs, and will see if I can get hold of some clovers (may grow some in a pot) I'll try him with some parsnip too as that's quite high in calories.... just have to do it gradually to avoid another bout of the dreaded 'poopy butt'
    Oats make them hungry?! Wow I'll keep that in mind if his appetite seems to reduce, I live across the road from Tesco so can easily run over and get some.
    Thank you for the link, I'll bookmark them just in case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Button View Post
    I was so relieved she didn't think he had something terrible, I've not long got in from work and he has left lots of nesquik in
    His litter tray for me
    The pellets are new from select and are in pets at home for an introductory price of 4.50 for 1.5kg bag... it didn't say the full price but I expect it will be expensive... as all special dietary food is, hopefully he will be okay on them, if not it will mean a pellet free diet with me supplementing any probiotics and minerals he needs, but I'll speak with the vet before I get to that stage
    At the moment he has 3 dark lettuce types and rocket, fine beans, peas and baby corn, he doesn't like carrots or the tops, and he doesn't like kale. First rabbit I've ever had that didn't like them! I'm going to try him on some mixed herbs, and will see if I can get hold of some clovers (may grow some in a pot) I'll try him with some parsnip too as that's quite high in calories.... just have to do it gradually to avoid another bout of the dreaded 'poopy butt'
    Oats make them hungry?! Wow I'll keep that in mind if his appetite seems to reduce, I live across the road from Tesco so can easily run over and get some.
    Thank you for the link, I'll bookmark them just in case

    You're welcome

    at the Nesquick!

    Parsnip as you say is quite high in calories. I was looking at a couple of sites, as you mentioned peas ...

    http://rabbit.org/suggested-vegetabl...a-rabbit-diet/

    http://www.therabbithouse.com/diet/r...les-fruits.asp

    Mixed herbs usually go down very well. Trouble is though, they don't usually last very long!

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    You can buy Science Selective Grain Free food for rabbits here now www.thehayexperts.co.uk

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