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    Got a call yesterday from my vet, she has the results from Sarah, who thinks the same things as my vet - either osteoarthritis/osteomyelitis/osteosarcoma. She has suggested xraying him again for metastases in his chest (if present, my vet said she wanted to pts straight away), if no other tumours present, then full blood tests and a fine needle aspirate for joint fluid to see if there is infection/inflammatory cells. He's gone in today for these tests. I'm so worried, almost in tears all day yesterday, but I don't think I'll have him pts today if tumours are in his lungs, he seems ok for the moment, happy enough and although lame on that leg he's getting about well enough. I will increase his dose of Loxicom if necessary, and we talked about using Tramadol for pain relief. Anything anyone can tell me about it's use I'd be grateful.

    Waiting now to hear from my vet when she's xrayed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin'sMum View Post
    Got a call yesterday from my vet, she has the results from Sarah, who thinks the same things as my vet - either osteoarthritis/osteomyelitis/osteosarcoma. She has suggested xraying him again for metastases in his chest (if present, my vet said she wanted to pts straight away), if no other tumours present, then full blood tests and a fine needle aspirate for joint fluid to see if there is infection/inflammatory cells. He's gone in today for these tests. I'm so worried, almost in tears all day yesterday, but I don't think I'll have him pts today if tumours are in his lungs, he seems ok for the moment, happy enough and although lame on that leg he's getting about well enough. I will increase his dose of Loxicom if necessary, and we talked about using Tramadol for pain relief. Anything anyone can tell me about it's use I'd be grateful.

    Waiting now to hear from my vet when she's xrayed him.
    I really hope that the Xrays bring 'no mets' news. I have had several Rabbits on Tramadol and they have all responded well to it with no adverse side effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin'sMum View Post
    Got a call yesterday from my vet, she has the results from Sarah, who thinks the same things as my vet - either osteoarthritis/osteomyelitis/osteosarcoma. She has suggested xraying him again for metastases in his chest (if present, my vet said she wanted to pts straight away), if no other tumours present, then full blood tests and a fine needle aspirate for joint fluid to see if there is infection/inflammatory cells. He's gone in today for these tests. I'm so worried, almost in tears all day yesterday, but I don't think I'll have him pts today if tumours are in his lungs, he seems ok for the moment, happy enough and although lame on that leg he's getting about well enough. I will increase his dose of Loxicom if necessary, and we talked about using Tramadol for pain relief. Anything anyone can tell me about it's use I'd be grateful.

    Waiting now to hear from my vet when she's xrayed him.

    Oh P I am so sorry to hear this.

    I really hope tat the X-rays show up no metastases. I have had a rabbit with cancer in the not too distant past, so I really do empathise with how you're feeling now. I hope it isn't that.

    As for Tramdol, it is usually well tolerated in rabbits.

    This is what Maria Kubiak, rabbit vet, has said about it on this Forum:


    I use tramadol quite frequently in rabbits, guinea pigs and chinchillas with pain that is not controlled by non-steroidals like metacam, or where NSAIDs can't be used due to other health issues. It works well to control soft tissue pain, less well for bony pain and rarely causes sedation and I've had no adverse reactions. Doses required for pain relief in bunnies are much higher than in cats and dogs.


    I have to say that my own experience, and that of one of my friend's rabbits recently concerning tramadol wasn't so good. I think if you're going to give it, then make sure you give ranitidine a half an hour before each dose. This will prevent it from messing up the stomach and being a cause of anorexia.

    Hugs to you and vibes for Parsley xx

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    Thank you Jane and MightyMax for that info. I've just had two calls from the vet (she's only been qualified a year but is superkeen and seems to be well up on rabbit medicine) to say there are no visible metastases, so thank goodness for that. She's tried to get sufficient fluid from the joint for analysis, but was not able to, so has done a smear and is sending that to the lab. She has also looked at his blood smear, and he is slightly anaemic, and shows a lower than average number of white blood cells, which she says could be an indication of infection. He is coming home with Baytril for now, and she thinks it may be that his elbow will fuse in time, and may not be painful. She also mentioned getting an appointment with Sarah (it's not too far away from me, maybe an hour and a half in the car) if things don't improve over time.

    Thanks again for your messages, I really appreciate it, I've been so worried about him. I don't know if it's just me but the boys I've had have always held a special place in my heart, my girls seem a bit less 'friendly' and more independent somehow. I love them too of course, but my boys are real loves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin'sMum View Post
    Thank you Jane and MightyMax for that info. I've just had two calls from the vet (she's only been qualified a year but is superkeen and seems to be well up on rabbit medicine) to say there are no visible metastases, so thank goodness for that. She's tried to get sufficient fluid from the joint for analysis, but was not able to, so has done a smear and is sending that to the lab. She has also looked at his blood smear, and he is slightly anaemic, and shows a lower than average number of white blood cells, which she says could be an indication of infection. He is coming home with Baytril for now, and she thinks it may be that his elbow will fuse in time, and may not be painful. She also mentioned getting an appointment with Sarah (it's not too far away from me, maybe an hour and a half in the car) if things don't improve over time.

    Thanks again for your messages, I really appreciate it, I've been so worried about him. I don't know if it's just me but the boys I've had have always held a special place in my heart, my girls seem a bit less 'friendly' and more independent somehow. I love them too of course, but my boys are real loves!
    Well the update sounds relatively optimistic. I hope that the Lab results will offer up a few more treatment options. Has either Vet mentioned a condition called 'Bursitis' ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin'sMum View Post
    Thank you Jane and MightyMax for that info. I've just had two calls from the vet (she's only been qualified a year but is superkeen and seems to be well up on rabbit medicine) to say there are no visible metastases, so thank goodness for that. She's tried to get sufficient fluid from the joint for analysis, but was not able to, so has done a smear and is sending that to the lab. She has also looked at his blood smear, and he is slightly anaemic, and shows a lower than average number of white blood cells, which she says could be an indication of infection. He is coming home with Baytril for now, and she thinks it may be that his elbow will fuse in time, and may not be painful. She also mentioned getting an appointment with Sarah (it's not too far away from me, maybe an hour and a half in the car) if things don't improve over time.

    Thanks again for your messages, I really appreciate it, I've been so worried about him. I don't know if it's just me but the boys I've had have always held a special place in my heart, my girls seem a bit less 'friendly' and more independent somehow. I love them too of course, but my boys are real loves!


    You're so welcome, I really feel for you and Parsley ...

    I am glad the results are optimistic so far.

    Has the vet mentioned anabolic steroids at all? Not the same (as I'm sure you know) as corticosteroids. Anabolic steroids can help wth anaemia and also help build up muscle mass - which may be a good thing for him.

    I and other forum members I've recommended them to have found their rabbits gained benefit from them.

    Good luck xx

    Oh, and I know exactly what you mean about the love for a boy bun

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    [QUOTE=Jack's Has either Vet mentioned a condition called 'Bursitis' ?

    Bursitis is a condition of soft tissue, joints have a 'cushion' on the outside between the joint and the skin, which is called a bursa. It swells up when it becomes inflamed, either by pressure, trauma or infection. Parsley's problem is that the bones in his elbow are abnormal. Thanks for the thought anyway.

    MM no one has mentioned anything other than Baytril for the moment (I think because of the fine needle aspirate, my vet was worried about introducing infection), but I'm still waiting for further instruction!

    We have a bit of a problem at the moment in that the bond between him and Toffee seems to have been upset, probably because he smells different. I've had to separate them when I'm not around, there's a bit of face pulling and lunging at each other. There hasn't been any actual fighting or physical aggression, but I'm just being cautious until things settle down.

    Onwards and upwards!

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