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    Hi,

    I don't post in the forum that often these days but I'm in need of a bit of advise.

    I noticed Hansa's balance wasn't quite right on Sunday, she seemed to have a bit of a wonky head and didn't recover her balance with boisterous Caspian almost bashed into her! For reasons I will explain below, although I was worried my mind was a little bit elsewhere. Anyhow I started her of Pancur on Sunday (as I had some) and in the evening gave her some Oxbow Critical care in the evening as I wasn't sure she was wating. Got an early morning appointment for her on Monday, and she is now on metcam as well.

    So it is now Wednesday, my biggest concern is that's she's not eating or drinking enough! I gave her some of the Oxbow yesterday which she pretty much lapped up and she also enjoyed some greens in the morning, parsley and a bit of pear. Today she has some kale with she really enjoyed, some Oxbow and a bit of pear. She doesn't seem interested in pellets or hay. Also the other problem I have is that obviously Hansa is taking her time to eat so Caspian just barges on in a gobbles it all up! I try to keep him away to give Hansa a bit of a chance but it's not easy. I don't want to separate them completely unless I really have to...? She seemed a a bit less feisty this morning which of course I'm worrying about again.

    Finding this extra hard as last week my cat went to a healthy cat that I thought I would have for many years to come, to me making the hard decision this Sunday to have her put down due to poor health. I don't want to go into the details here and although there's nothing I can do now, I really doubt myself as to whether I made the right decision and gave up too early and should have tried harder with her.

    Work is really busy yet I've taken loads of time out to visit the vets in the last week - fortunately I have no boss at the moment and made up some hours on Sunday.

    I saw a link in one of the other post to a facebook group which I have tried to join.

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    Hannah
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    Hi
    As you may already know, the main causes of head tilt are EC and ear infection. I would talk to your vet about adding in an antibiotic to cover both causes.
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    Poor bun. Personally I'd separate but just for meal times. For feeding I'd give her whatever she'll eat. Brambles & grass would be good for fibre & continue with the CC.
    I agree with RR that anti biotics would be wise too.

    Vibes for her & you. I'm sorry to hear about your cat too

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    Thanks for the replies.

    Hum... I'm not at home to read the bottle, but the vet did say she was giving me antibiotics (I'm sure bit it's all a bit of a blur!) - now I'm doubting it & a bit worried! Might give them a call this afternoon!
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    Apologies she is on baytril, it's been a long week and a half...

    (I was given metacam for the cat - painful memories... Don't worry I've not gotten the, muddled)

    This evening she's had some pellets, small bit of carrot, some oxbow (as she really didn't have a lot of pellets) and some grass... Seemed more keen to hop about, feels a positive evening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willow_Warren View Post
    Hi,

    I don't post in the forum that often these days but I'm in need of a bit of advise.

    I noticed Hansa's balance wasn't quite right on Sunday, she seemed to have a bit of a wonky head and didn't recover her balance with boisterous Caspian almost bashed into her! For reasons I will explain below, although I was worried my mind was a little bit elsewhere. Anyhow I started her of Pancur on Sunday (as I had some) and in the evening gave her some Oxbow Critical care in the evening as I wasn't sure she was wating. Got an early morning appointment for her on Monday, and she is now on metcam as well.

    So it is now Wednesday, my biggest concern is that's she's not eating or drinking enough! I gave her some of the Oxbow yesterday which she pretty much lapped up and she also enjoyed some greens in the morning, parsley and a bit of pear. Today she has some kale with she really enjoyed, some Oxbow and a bit of pear. She doesn't seem interested in pellets or hay. Also the other problem I have is that obviously Hansa is taking her time to eat so Caspian just barges on in a gobbles it all up! I try to keep him away to give Hansa a bit of a chance but it's not easy. I don't want to separate them completely unless I really have to...? She seemed a a bit less feisty this morning which of course I'm worrying about again.

    Finding this extra hard as last week my cat went to a healthy cat that I thought I would have for many years to come, to me making the hard decision this Sunday to have her put down due to poor health. I don't want to go into the details here and although there's nothing I can do now, I really doubt myself as to whether I made the right decision and gave up too early and should have tried harder with her.

    Work is really busy yet I've taken loads of time out to visit the vets in the last week - fortunately I have no boss at the moment and made up some hours on Sunday.

    I saw a link in one of the other post to a facebook group which I have tried to join.

    Many thanks

    Hannah

    Hi Hannah

    I'm sorry to heat about Hansa. It's quite devastating, isn't it?

    You probably know that there can be several different reasons for what you're describing. Are you happy your vet is covering all bases? Baytril can work if it's an ear infection, but if no progress is being made after a time, your vet ought to think about changing the antibiotic. Or perhaps X-raying the skull to see whether there's any ear infection present.

    Did your vet suggest what it might be?

    Some reading here on the various causes of head tilt and loss of balance ...

    http://www.vetfolio.com/parasitology...ion-in-rabbits

    http://www.dechra.co.uk/therapy-area...ion/e-cuniculi

    http://www.rabbit.org/journal/3-8/head-tilt.html

    http://www.rabbit.org/health/tilt.html

    http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Neurology/Otit/otitis.htm

    http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Neurology/head_tilt.htm

    I hope you manage to join the Head Tilt Hoppers Facebook Group - they offer loads of support.

    I am so sorry to hear about your cat. It sounds like you're going through the mill at the moment. Please don't beat yourself up - it's so difficult to know what the 'right' thing is to do, and we are only human and do our very best.

    Hugs to you x

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    Hi,

    I have read a few of the above links, I will read some more when I have a bit more time.

    The vet suggested likely causes as inner ear infection or head tilt. I know there are other causes but how treatable are these? She also said to keep a close eye on her and make sure that she doesn't get any worse. Hansa has always been a relatively quiet bunny, that's just in her nature. She seems to hug the outside of the shed/run at the moment - maybe she feels more secure there.

    Hansa has 10 days worth of Baytril and the vet has asked to see her again in 10 days, so I'm probably take her on Tuesday evening. I believe vets kind of have a sort of order in which they have to work through antibiotics.

    Many thanks for the help and support.

    Hannah
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    It seems her treatment is as expected. Lovely to hear she had a good evening. More vibes for Hansa

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    She gobbled her greens this morning, but wasn't interested in calabrese that much (greens always get eaten first and calabrese second), gave her some grass as a substitute. Looks interested in hay but only saw her eat the odd strand she's normally a hay eating monster!

    I just want her to be happy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willow_Warren View Post
    Hi,

    I have read a few of the above links, I will read some more when I have a bit more time.

    The vet suggested likely causes as inner ear infection or head tilt. I know there are other causes but how treatable are these? She also said to keep a close eye on her and make sure that she doesn't get any worse. Hansa has always been a relatively quiet bunny, that's just in her nature. She seems to hug the outside of the shed/run at the moment - maybe she feels more secure there.

    Hansa has 10 days worth of Baytril and the vet has asked to see her again in 10 days, so I'm probably take her on Tuesday evening. I believe vets kind of have a sort of order in which they have to work through antibiotics.

    Many thanks for the help and support.

    Hannah

    Hi Hannah

    There's what's called a 'prescribing cascade' where vets usually use the meds licensed for that species first. They can, however. choose the best medication for the condition, even though it's not licensed for rabbits. They use these in accordance with the Cascade:

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-casc...ised-medicines

    I am glad she will have a review - then you'll be able to discuss all possibilities.

    Are you still giving pain relief? That would be necessary in cases of both E.C. and ear infection. Metacam is a non steroidal anti inflammatory, and so will not only relieve pain but reduce inflammation in both the ear and the brain. Thus minimising any ill effects of either of these conditions.

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