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    I have had the worst weekend ever. we lost tiggi on friday suddenly. she looked asleep when we found her. No leaking from back end no blood anywhere, nothing. Last night cosmo was acting quiet but i thought maybe he is missing tiggi but this morning he is still quiet and looks different. i cant explain it any other way. Ive rang the vet and told them i think its vhd and they are going to ring me back after consulting. i need some advice incase my vet doesnt know. if i gave the rest of them the vhd injection would it stop any of the others dying. I really cant cope with this and i am in bits. has anyone had a vhd death and the other rabbits lived. i need some hope but i need honesty more.

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    Santa was one of the first to experience confirmed VHD2 in unvaccinated rabbits in UK (just before the Filavac vaccine came in to UK) she had the rest vaccinated a short while (days/week or so) later and only lost one rabbit. It's difficult to say whether it was natural immunity or the vaccine. I'll find her blog as reading that will be better than my account. It only takes one week to establish immunity so it might protect them (in my opinion it would definitely be worth trying).

    I'm really sorry for your loss and potential that's going on for you. I hope you don't lose any more.


    Link to the blog as described above: https://rhd2diary.wordpress.com/

    This map might also be of interest:

    http://rhd2map.ajltech.co.uk/index.php?&p=cases

    This Facebook group will be a good resource for you too:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1744958082388756/
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    Oh I am so sorry that you have lost Tiggi

    Regarding VHD, what is the vaccination status of your remaining rabbits for VHD1 and 2? A PM would have been the only way to confirm the cause of Tiggi's death. I think the situation regarding immunity post vaccination (if they are not covered already) is 3 weeks for VHD1 (part of combivac) and 1 week for VHD2, but I am sure someone will be able to confirm that.

    I've not had any experience with either, but I think Santa has with VHD2. You could maybe send her a PM.

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    im going to read the link above now. I cant believe this is happening

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    W&S - I'm so sorry. I'm no expert but I'm sure vaccinations would go a long way in protecting your other buns & I'd push for this now. I've read on here that RHVD2 can now be tested for with blood or poo.

    From FHB site : The RHDV2 is less virulent than the original strain. It has a lower and variable mortality rate (5-70% with an average of 20%). It can also affect rabbits under 4 weeks old.
    Although rabbits can die suddenly, some can recover and others may show no clinical signs at all.


    https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/art...rhagic-disease

    wishing you all the vibes in the world xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omi View Post
    Oh I am so sorry that you have lost Tiggi

    Regarding VHD, what is the vaccination status of your remaining rabbits for VHD1 and 2? A PM would have been the only way to confirm the cause of Tiggi's death. I think the situation regarding immunity post vaccination (if they are not covered already) is 3 weeks for VHD1 (part of combivac) and 1 week for VHD2, but I am sure someone will be able to confirm that.

    I've not had any experience with either, but I think Santa has with VHD2. You could maybe send her a PM.
    The above is correct. But as RHD1 is also covered by Filavac the quickest way to protect them against RHD1 if they aren't already covered by the combined vaccine (Nobivac) then getting them vaccinated with Filavac would be a one week to immunity. I've also read somewhere that you would need to count about 15 days from the day they were vaccinated in an outbreak situation as they may be harbouring the virus at the time of vaccination so *may* are still at risk in that time period.
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    i know nothing but I am sending you lots of vibes. xxx

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    So sorry.

    If your other rabbits are not vaccinated (RHD1&2, myxo), I would get them done urgently. It takes a couple of weeks or so for each of the 2 vaccines to take full effect, but better now than later, just in case.

    Cosmo has had his routine changed without Tiggi being around. It may be worth getting him checked over. Check all the usual at home - eating, drinking, wee & poo output - and it will help to catch and treat anything early eg stasis. Some rabbits do so much better with a partner and they can take time to adjust.

    Without a PM, it is difficult to say what happened to Tiggi. VHD is one possibility - but there are many others. I hope Cosmo picks up soon and you get some good advice from your vet.

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    I am so so sorry Personally I would get all of your remaining Rabbits vaccinated with Filavac today. The vaccine covers both RHD1 and RHD2.

    http://www.grovet.com/filavac-kc-v-10x1dose.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by willow and squiggles View Post
    I have had the worst weekend ever. we lost tiggi on friday suddenly. she looked asleep when we found her. No leaking from back end no blood anywhere, nothing. Last night cosmo was acting quiet but i thought maybe he is missing tiggi but this morning he is still quiet and looks different. i cant explain it any other way. Ive rang the vet and told them i think its vhd and they are going to ring me back after consulting. i need some advice incase my vet doesnt know. if i gave the rest of them the vhd injection would it stop any of the others dying. I really cant cope with this and i am in bits. has anyone had a vhd death and the other rabbits lived. i need some hope but i need honesty more.

    Big hugs WS xx

    I would drop Santa a PM and alert her to your situation. She's across it all, and is wonderfully helpful.

    There's my long thread here:

    http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/sh...10th-June-2017

    If you have time to look at it, start from the end and read towards the front.

    RHD2 vaccine takes one week to full immunity. So far as I know there is no test in blood or poo that will tell you whether your rabbits are infected.

    I would definitely get them vaccinated asap. Bear in mind it may not be VHD at all. Get the vet to have a good look and decide.

    Loads of hugs xxx

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