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    Hello everyone,

    My little Alfie (who is 16 weeks old Netherland Dwarf) keeps spinning & his head is tilted to the left. He's just finished medication for EC.

    He is mentally happy, affectionate and strong, he's growing, has the shiniest, fluffiest fur & is putting on weight but the spinning & head tilt is worrying me.

    I took him to the vets Monday and the vet said the best thing was to put him down. I refused and now we are trying him on Steroids.

    Has anyone else experienced this please and does the condition improve? I don't care if it takes months or years - I just want to know that he can get better as he is cocooned in his Quilt and he should be running around, having fun.

    Thank you for any advice & have a nice evening.

    Maria

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaB View Post
    Hello everyone,

    My little Alfie (who is 16 weeks old Netherland Dwarf) keeps spinning & his head is tilted to the left. He's just finished medication for EC.

    He is mentally happy, affectionate and strong, he's growing, has the shiniest, fluffiest fur & is putting on weight but the spinning & head tilt is worrying me.

    I took him to the vets Monday and the vet said the best thing was to put him down. I refused and now we are trying him on Steroids.

    Has anyone else experienced this please and does the condition improve? I don't care if it takes months or years - I just want to know that he can get better as he is cocooned in his Quilt and he should be running around, having fun.

    Thank you for any advice & have a nice evening.

    Maria

    Hi Maria

    I am sorry to hear about Alfie. That's distressing

    I wonder if it's something to do with what's in the ear then?

    Head tilt and spinning can be a symptom of an ear infection. Not all ear infections are visible to the eye when a vet looks in the ear.

    You might want to check out these links:

    The first Kevin Eatwell article is very useful

    http://www.veterinarywebinars.com/me...se_Rabbits.pdf

    http://www.rabbit.org/health/tilt.html

    http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Neurology/Otit/otitis.htm

    Would it be worth getting a second opinion on this, or at least some head X-rays?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaB View Post
    Hello everyone,

    My little Alfie (who is 16 weeks old Netherland Dwarf) keeps spinning & his head is tilted to the left. He's just finished medication for EC.

    He is mentally happy, affectionate and strong, he's growing, has the shiniest, fluffiest fur & is putting on weight but the spinning & head tilt is worrying me.

    I took him to the vets Monday and the vet said the best thing was to put him down. I refused and now we are trying him on Steroids.

    Has anyone else experienced this please and does the condition improve? I don't care if it takes months or years - I just want to know that he can get better as he is cocooned in his Quilt and he should be running around, having fun.

    Thank you for any advice & have a nice evening.

    Maria
    Hello

    I am sorry to hear of Alfie's illness. Has your Vet ruled out the possibility of the symptoms being related to a middle ear infection rather than EC. Although in such a young Rabbit EC does seem to be a more likely diagnosis.

    Firstly, if you are on Facebook there is a Group there that offers a lot of advice and support for people who are caring for Rabbits with 'Head Tilt', I suggest you join the group if possible :

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/HelpforHeadTiltHoppers/

    Here are a few other sources of information :

    http://www.veterinarywebinars.com/me...se_Rabbits.pdf

    http://www.veterinary.ie/go/pet_care...lts-in-rabbits

    http://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/rabbit-health/e-cuniculi/

    One of our members on here (roxyroller88 has a lovely Bunny called Hiro whom she nursed for months as he developed a severe head tilt with rolling. I am sure she would not mind if you PM'd her to seek her advice on general nursing care. The care may need to go on for a very, very long time. But eventually some Rabbits can recover enough to enjoy a good quality of life, even if they always have a wonky head. Here is the link to contact roxyroller88

    http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/me...7-roxyroller88

    Finally, you could seek a second opinion from another Vet if your current Vet is unwilling to consider attempting to treat Alfie and will only suggest PTS. If you start a new thread over in 'Rabbit Chat' entitled 'Rabbit Savvy Vet Needed in/near Cardiff' some of our members may be able to offer some suggestions.

    Good luck to you and little Alfie x
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    I cannot add to the excellent advice you've already been given, but I just wanted you to know that my mini lop, Mimzy, got severe head tilt 5 years ago and while it took the better part of a year to get him back to a point where he could eat, drink. clean himself and move about on his own without rolling or tumbling, he is still with me and his head is much less tilted than it was when he first got sick, although it does have some residual tilt and he tends to move in a circular motion.

    It can be done. It can take some intense nursing and care on your part, but it sounds like you are very much fighting his corner and that is half the battle. I hope your bunny will recover and be more himself soon. xxxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaB View Post
    Hello everyone,

    My little Alfie (who is 16 weeks old Netherland Dwarf) keeps spinning & his head is tilted to the left. He's just finished medication for EC.

    He is mentally happy, affectionate and strong, he's growing, has the shiniest, fluffiest fur & is putting on weight but the spinning & head tilt is worrying me.

    I took him to the vets Monday and the vet said the best thing was to put him down. I refused and now we are trying him on Steroids.

    Has anyone else experienced this please and does the condition improve? I don't care if it takes months or years - I just want to know that he can get better as he is cocooned in his Quilt and he should be running around, having fun.

    Thank you for any advice & have a nice evening.

    Maria


    I just found a couple more links that may be of use:


    http://www.rabbit.org/journal/3-8/head-tilt.html

    http://www.rabbit.org/health/tilt.html

    http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Neurology/Otit/otitis.htm

    http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Neurology/head_tilt.htm

    How long has Alfie been on steroids?

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    Hello MightyMax,

    Thanks you so much for replying and for the the links, that is a great help.

    I will get a 2nd opinion as the Vet said it wasn't an ear infection after checking quickly in his ears.

    Thank you so much again, I am so grateful

    Maria

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    Hello Jack's-Janes,

    Thank you so much for your reply and links and information and I will certainly try your suggestion of a rabbit savvy vet.

    We have been nursing Alfie 24 hours a day for the last month (my other half is on the day shift while I'm in work and I do the afternoon and night shift).

    I'm ever so grateful for you reply and thank you so much.

    Maria x

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    Quote Originally Posted by MimzMum View Post
    I cannot add to the excellent advice you've already been given, but I just wanted you to know that my mini lop, Mimzy, got severe head tilt 5 years ago and while it took the better part of a year to get him back to a point where he could eat, drink. clean himself and move about on his own without rolling or tumbling, he is still with me and his head is much less tilted than it was when he first got sick, although it does have some residual tilt and he tends to move in a circular motion.

    It can be done. It can take some intense nursing and care on your part, but it sounds like you are very much fighting his corner and that is half the battle. I hope your bunny will recover and be more himself soon. xxxx
    Hello MinzMum,

    Thank you so much for your reply - that has given me so much hope now & even if it takes a year, I will carrying on nursing little Alfie for how ever long it takes.

    Thank you so much again.

    Maria x

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    Hello again MightyMax,

    You can tell I am a newbie as I've have found the reply with quote way (apologies to all for posts without quotes to you individually!!).

    Alfie has been on Steroids for 6 days now and seems a little bit better (he's seems to be able to stop himself sometimes now).

    Thank you for the additional links too - you and everyone have been so, so helpful and it is very much appreciated.

    Thank you again.

    Maria x



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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaB View Post
    Hello again MightyMax,

    You can tell I am a newbie as I've have found the reply with quote way (apologies to all for posts without quotes to you individually!!).

    Alfie has been on Steroids for 6 days now and seems a little bit better (he's seems to be able to stop himself sometimes now).

    Thank you for the additional links too - you and everyone have been so, so helpful and it is very much appreciated.

    Thank you again.

    Maria x



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    Hi Maria

    Thank you for replying.

    If you want to find a good vet in your area (and I suggest you take your rabbit to see one) then you can start another thread in Rabbit Chat with the header:


    Rabbit Savvy Vet needed in (your location)

    ...and members will help you out with their recommendations.

    Alternatively you could look here:

    https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/vet...ecommendations

    However, I can't see any listed there under your town.

    Good luck xx

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