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    Quote Originally Posted by tillyandtheo View Post
    Hello!

    Theo is doing great. I haven't heard him breathing oddly atall and I think he's putting on weight. I'm going back to the vet next week so hopefully he will have made the progress I'm hoping for! He's currently out on the grass binkying around
    HOWEVER.... Not everything is good. I dont know if you'll be able to help with this too but I'm panicking a bit about Tilly (my other rabbit). She has been fine recently but I've just been out to play with them in the grass. They were fine and Tilly is running around as normal but I've noticed alot of big poos on the grass and im frightened it's diarrhoea. I don't know which one it is who is producing them but I'm assuming it's Tilly because the poos have been where she's been sitting.
    I googled diarrhoea in rabbits and safe to say the results are not good. I didn't know that it can be very quickly fatal in rabbits if not treated.
    I just wanted to come here for your advice? Her attitude hasn't changed, shes still running around and eating etc.

    I don't know if this is a stupid thing to say, but my Dad is currently out jetwashing the pavement near to where they are in their pen on the grass, and Tilly seems very alert due to the noise - she's lop eared and her ears are up constantly. Could this be causing the poos to be bigger?Could she perhaps be alarmed by the noise?
    I don't know if that's a completely stupid thing to suggest but I just wanted to make sure

    Thank you! x
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    True diarrhoea is rare in rabbits and you're right - if it is that, it's not good!

    She could be stressed by the noise she's hearing, but it could also be the soft 'night droppings' or caecotrophs. They are supposed to eat them, but if they are getting extra food they sometimes prefer to eat the tasty food instead of their own poos that they are supposed to eat! In addition, they can overproduce them, and they happen in the daytime too


    Scroll down to the second picture here:

    http://www.therabbithouse.com/diet/rabbit-droppings.asp

    If she has sat in them, perhaps that could be what you're seeing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMax View Post
    Hi there

    True diarrhoea is rare in rabbits and you're right - if it is that, it's not good!

    She could be stressed by the noise she's hearing, but it could also be the soft 'night droppings' or caecotrophs. They are supposed to eat them, but if they are getting extra food they sometimes prefer to eat the tasty food instead of their own poos that they are supposed to eat! In addition, they can overproduce them, and they happen in the daytime too


    Scroll down to the second picture here:

    http://www.therabbithouse.com/diet/rabbit-droppings.asp

    If she has sat in them, perhaps that could be what you're seeing?
    If it's diarrhoea would she be acting normal and jumping about etc?
    It's not excessive it's just a few dotted about.

    They look similar to that photo. What can I do to stop it?

    I saw her and Theo both running where abouts the poo was so it might just look worse than it is.
    I'm an overthinker and always assume the worst

    Thanks so much for your fast reply xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by tillyandtheo View Post
    If it's diarrhoea would she be acting normal and jumping about etc?
    It's not excessive it's just a few dotted about.

    They look similar to that photo. What can I do to stop it?

    I saw her and Theo both running where abouts the poo was so it might just look worse than it is.
    I'm an overthinker and always assume the worst

    Thanks so much for your fast reply xx

    You're welcome

    Yes you'd think they would be behaving more poorly if it was diarrhoea which makes me think it's unlikely.

    If you read that link, it's usually an excess of protein and carbs that are responsible for excess caecotrophs. So if you have to feed extra it may be the cause of it. It's a difficult balance between the food you need to feed and the fact that it overproduces caecals. A few uneaten caecotrophs isn't a problem, but you do have to make sure they don't stick to the backside, or you encourage flystrike.

    Yes, it could look worse than it is. Check them over though, to make sure there's none stuck xx

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    Hi!
    I know I haven't posted in a while but jsut thought I'd give an update.
    Theo is good, hes been back to the vets about 2 weeks ago and unfortunately he had lost weight again. But the vet also said his breathing has greatly improved and his temperature was also normal.
    I have to go back on Thursday.
    He still feels skinny, but he's playful and seems happy. Hes more comfortable around me now too due to contact far more often.
    However the pooping situation which i brought up, was him i think. He's been getting very dirty around his bum and tummy. So I've just given him his first bath and he seems so much happier. I'm a bit worried about the pooing, in case it's a response to the medicine but I will jsut tell the vet this on Thursday.
    What i dont understand is he is eating, bounding around, drinking, and playing with Tilly.
    I'm feeling really worried and scared about it all, but I just wanted to give you an update. Maybe you could tell me things i could do / should be doing?
    Thank you x

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    Quote Originally Posted by tillyandtheo View Post
    Hi!
    I know I haven't posted in a while but jsut thought I'd give an update.
    Theo is good, hes been back to the vets about 2 weeks ago and unfortunately he had lost weight again. But the vet also said his breathing has greatly improved and his temperature was also normal.
    I have to go back on Thursday.
    He still feels skinny, but he's playful and seems happy. Hes more comfortable around me now too due to contact far more often.
    However the pooping situation which i brought up, was him i think. He's been getting very dirty around his bum and tummy. So I've just given him his first bath and he seems so much happier. I'm a bit worried about the pooing, in case it's a response to the medicine but I will jsut tell the vet this on Thursday.
    What i dont understand is he is eating, bounding around, drinking, and playing with Tilly.
    I'm feeling really worried and scared about it all, but I just wanted to give you an update. Maybe you could tell me things i could do / should be doing?
    Thank you x

    Thank you for updating regards Theo

    I'm sorry he's lost weight - have you tried giving fibafirst or higher calorie pellets to boost his weight a little? Hopefully these won't cause a sticky bum. I find fibafirst really good for that

    I hope the vet can help on Thursday.

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    I am glad Theo is breathing better. Rabbits are obligate nasal breathers so he may not be eating as much when his nose is stuffy. Tempting him with different types of hay, greens and herbs could encourage him to eat more. When adding new foods always do it slowly and one at a time so you will know if anything causes runny poos which could result him losing more weight.
    Sending you and Theo (and his not so thin friend) some positive vibes for an answer. It is good that he is still active.

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    Thank you for responding
    I'm really unsure about theo now .. he's not himself and has just really deteriorated. It seems like nothing is working and now his illness is showing which makes me worry even more because he cant hide how weak he is now.
    Finding it really hard but doing all i can xxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by tillyandtheo View Post
    Thank you for responding
    I'm really unsure about theo now .. he's not himself and has just really deteriorated. It seems like nothing is working and now his illness is showing which makes me worry even more because he cant hide how weak he is now.
    Finding it really hard but doing all i can xxx

    I don't know when you'll next come online, but my thoughts are with you and Theo.

    Thank you for your PM, and I have responded x hugs x

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    How's Theo doing?

    Did you get my PM?

    Thinking of you xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by tillyandtheo View Post
    Thank you for responding
    I'm really unsure about theo now .. he's not himself and has just really deteriorated. It seems like nothing is working and now his illness is showing which makes me worry even more because he cant hide how weak he is now.
    Finding it really hard but doing all i can xxx
    Sending you and Theo some positive vibes.

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