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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoobec View Post
    I would put a litter tray where the carrier was/is because somebunny thought it was a litter tray before when it had hay in it. Boots had 3 trays and somebody moved his main tray once and I didn't notice until the next day, he was very confused and did use the floor then. I never asked the vet to confirm, we just knew with his scanning and the fact he was a REW that he had poor sight,so I don't know how they would check, I expect they would look at the eye itself. I would take him to the vets to have a check up
    I've just found a wee accident This is the third time in a few weeks that it's happened. I've got one of the tall hay feeders from manor pet housing and 3 times now somebunny has done a wee right at the base of it, I have no idea how because if they were facing the feeder eating hay their bottom would be further back so surely the wee would be further back. Unfortunately I don't know which bunny it was as I didn't see who did it. The hay feeder is next to the litter tray, but they've had it for a couple of years so I don't understand why it's just happening now.

    You make a good point about the fact they used a the carrier as a litter tray. I'll pop out and get another litter tray tomorrow. Maybe I should just ditch the hay feeders entirely. Two litter trays full of hay should be enough surely?

    I'll phone the vets on Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImoT View Post
    Thank you all for your responses. For some reason it won't let me quote everyone!

    MightyMax - the litter tray issues have only been poos. I'm not hugely keen to ask the vet to express urine when his wees have been totally fine, it sounds quite invasive? Although, if i'm 100% honest, I wouldn't be able to tell you if he has definitely wee'd in the litter tray because he shares it with Edith. However, he certainly hasn't been weeing anywhere else and I assume if he didn't wee at all for more than 48 hours or so he would become very ill very quickly?

    I bought them a couple of toys today, a willow ball and a wooden ball type thing that i've stuffed with hay. Both bunnies were very excited but Winston has now gone back to loaf-ing in a corner. In-fact sometimes he is in more of a sitting position and it just doesn't look particularly comfy.

    I'm nervous about taking him to the vets. I'm nervous because although my vet is fairly rabbit savvy I'm not sure if I turn up and say 'Winston just seems a bit down' he would know where to start with checking him out?! I don't want to put him through any invasive procedures for no reason? Eye sight and arthritis seem like a good starting point, could someone explain how the vet would check these so I can make sure everything is done properly?

    He had a check up in January and February with 2 separate vets actually, because he had his RVHD2 vaccine done by a different vet in January. That vet mentioned his teeth had very slight 'bits' on them (I assume she meant spurs?) but that it was nothing to worry about as it was very minor. My usual vet did his combi vaccine in February and did all the normal general checks and said he was perfectly healthy, I questioned his teeth with my vet then and he said they looked fine. So it could be teeth related I suppose, but then surely he would have stopped eating?!

    It's not at all invasive for a vet to express urine from a rabbit's bladder. I can do it myself

    But you seem happy that there have been no inappropriate wees and also that he is not in any pain, so it's something I wouldn't worry about in that case

    Perhaps you should keep an eye on him, and make notes on when he seems particularly 'down' and then you can advise the vet at some future point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMax View Post
    It's not at all invasive for a vet to express urine from a rabbit's bladder. I can do it myself

    But you seem happy that there have been no inappropriate wees and also that he is not in any pain, so it's something I wouldn't worry about in that case

    Perhaps you should keep an eye on him, and make notes on when he seems particularly 'down' and then you can advise the vet at some future point?
    Well there hadn't been wee issues, however if you see my post above there had been a 3 wees at the base of a hay feeder, and this morning there was yet another one. I've removed the hay feeder now and ordered another litter tray so they will have 2.

    That's a good suggestion to keep notes about when he is down, I will do that!

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    Small update, the second litter tray arrived and I put it where the carrier was. Litter tray habits have vastly improved and Winston seems happier. I have a vet appointment booked for Monday and I think I will still take him just to get checked over!

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    aww bless him!

    So glad he seems happier, but yeah think a check up will just help put your mind at rest too, but fingers crossed its nothing concerning! xxx
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImoT View Post
    Small update, the second litter tray arrived and I put it where the carrier was. Litter tray habits have vastly improved and Winston seems happier. I have a vet appointment booked for Monday and I think I will still take him just to get checked over!

    Good news

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImoT View Post
    Small update, the second litter tray arrived and I put it where the carrier was. Litter tray habits have vastly improved and Winston seems happier. I have a vet appointment booked for Monday and I think I will still take him just to get checked over!
    That's great news

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    Another small update. I took Winston to the vets this morning and the vet agreed something wasn't quite right. He checked his teeth and outer eye which all seemed fine, and had a good feel of his organs and couldn't feel anything untoward. He weighed him and I was right about his weight loss, he has lost just over 30 grams in about a month. The vet decided to admit Winston for blood tests and X-rays. So him and Edith are staying at the vets for the day today but hopefully should be coming home early evening.

    Can anyone give me some insight into the weight loss? Does it seem like a lot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImoT View Post
    Another small update. I took Winston to the vets this morning and the vet agreed something wasn't quite right. He checked his teeth and outer eye which all seemed fine, and had a good feel of his organs and couldn't feel anything untoward. He weighed him and I was right about his weight loss, he has lost just over 30 grams in about a month. The vet decided to admit Winston for blood tests and X-rays. So him and Edith are staying at the vets for the day today but hopefully should be coming home early evening.

    Can anyone give me some insight into the weight loss? Does it seem like a lot?
    There can be a multitude of reasons to account for weightloss. It's best to wait for the blood test results as they will provide the best insight into what's going on. Sending lots of vibes for him xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack's-Jane View Post
    There can be a multitude of reasons to account for weightloss. It's best to wait for the blood test results as they will provide the best insight into what's going on. Sending lots of vibes for him xx
    Thank you. The vet just phone. X-rays were clear but the blood test results will take a couple of days to come in. He's given Winston gut stimulant and metacam while he's there just to see if it perks him up a bit and I can pick them both up in an hour.

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