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Excessively peeing

cara said:
Wanted you to be the first to share the GOOD news with :wave: :D

Ok, Blood results perfectly within the norm. So not the kidney problem I had anticipated or, in fact, the vet either, who was a little guarded and had suspected 2 problems, one of which was his kidneys.

We are still awaiting some urine tests. Meanwhile, Teddy is going to have an x-ray on Monday morning.

What are your thoughts? Are next steps as you would expect?

I have been jumping around saying "thank you, thank you, thank you" ... no idea who to but I am just so so so relieved!!!

Thanks for holding my hand so far :wave:
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Cara this is really good news :wave:

I would agree with your vet - an X-ray to ascertain the amount, if any, of bladder sludge!

I hope you and Teddy have a lovely weekend and thanks for sharing the good news :D
 
Thanks Jack's-Jane :)

Oh and by the way, your situation as you described above - you are most certainly immersed in the world of rabbits and indeed unique (in a good way) :wave:
 
MightyMax said:
Cara this is really good news :wave:

I would agree with your vet - an X-ray to ascertain the amount, if any, of bladder sludge!

I hope you and Teddy have a lovely weekend and thanks for sharing the good news :D
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Thanks :) another bottom bath to keep on top of the sludge particles but got the hand of doing a quick and simple swish type thingy. He peed everywhere but am hoping we can find a solution in the long run.

Fingers crossed for a drama free weekend for ALL of us :p
 
cara said:
Thanks :) another bottom bath to keep on top of the sludge particles but got the hand of doing a quick and simple swish type thingy. He peed everywhere but am hoping we can find a solution in the long run.

Fingers crossed for a drama free weekend for ALL of us :p
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I'll raise a glass to that! :D
 
I did post this on my Urine Scald thread, but thinking about it, thought it better on here (sorry for the repeat) :

Teddy's x-ray shows nothing untoward

So far we have done, Urine investigation, Bloods and x-ray at a cost nearing £400 (am not telling husband) and, happily, eliminated certain things but not pinpointed what the problem is. No stones, some sludge which the vet didn't think warranted flushing at this point in time and nothing to indicate deterioration of nerves (something like that).

Next step is all the history, x-rays, blood and urine results are to be forwarded to Molly (at Rutland) for another opinion.

My vet is perplexed at the waxing and waning of the problem. She is mulling over EC once again and will discuss this with Molly. Could another course of Panacur be useful. Could he be having flare ups of EC ...

Meanwhile, we are getting on top of the urine scald apparently .. YAY!! And thanks to a great suggestion to Jack's-Jane, I ask the vet to further clip Teddy's fur. It is better, but she did find it particularly difficult around his tail, an area especially affected by urine scald.

So, at the moment, I am feeling poorer but very blessed that nothing seriously untoward has been upturned thus far, although potentially, Teddy still has a problem.
 
cara said:
I did post this on my Urine Scald thread, but thinking about it, thought it better on here (sorry for the repeat) :

Teddy's x-ray shows nothing untoward

So far we have done, Urine investigation, Bloods and x-ray at a cost nearing £400 (am not telling husband) and, happily, eliminated certain things but not pinpointed what the problem is. No stones, some sludge which the vet didn't think warranted flushing at this point in time and nothing to indicate deterioration of nerves (something like that).

Next step is all the history, x-rays, blood and urine results are to be forwarded to Molly (at Rutland) for another opinion.

My vet is perplexed at the waxing and waning of the problem. She is mulling over EC once again and will discuss this with Molly. Could another course of Panacur be useful. Could he be having flare ups of EC ...

Meanwhile, we are getting on top of the urine scald apparently .. YAY!! And thanks to a great suggestion to Jack's-Jane, I ask the vet to further clip Teddy's fur. It is better, but she did find it particularly difficult around his tail, an area especially affected by urine scald.

So, at the moment, I am feeling poorer but very blessed that nothing seriously untoward has been upturned thus far, although potentially, Teddy still has a problem.
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The plot thickens :? If anyone can get to the bottom of what is going on (sorry Teds, no pun intended!) then Molly will. I am glad that your Vet managed to give Teddy's fur a trim and hopefully this will make it a bit esaier for you to clean him up.

I await the next update with interest !
 
Jack's-Jane said:
The plot thickens :? If anyone can get to the bottom of what is going on (sorry Teds, no pun intended!) then Molly will. I am glad that your Vet managed to give Teddy's fur a trim and hopefully this will make it a bit esaier for you to clean him up.

I await the next update with interest !
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Thanks for reply :wave:

As an aside, although am sure unconnected, Teddy is peeing to one side :? The urine scald only affects one leg!

The vet did comment that Teddy did not appear to have any arthritic / mobility issues.
 
cara said:
I did post this on my Urine Scald thread, but thinking about it, thought it better on here (sorry for the repeat) :

Teddy's x-ray shows nothing untoward

So far we have done, Urine investigation, Bloods and x-ray at a cost nearing £400 (am not telling husband) and, happily, eliminated certain things but not pinpointed what the problem is. No stones, some sludge which the vet didn't think warranted flushing at this point in time and nothing to indicate deterioration of nerves (something like that).

Next step is all the history, x-rays, blood and urine results are to be forwarded to Molly (at Rutland) for another opinion.

My vet is perplexed at the waxing and waning of the problem. She is mulling over EC once again and will discuss this with Molly. Could another course of Panacur be useful. Could he be having flare ups of EC ...

Meanwhile, we are getting on top of the urine scald apparently .. YAY!! And thanks to a great suggestion to Jack's-Jane, I ask the vet to further clip Teddy's fur. It is better, but she did find it particularly difficult around his tail, an area especially affected by urine scald.

So, at the moment, I am feeling poorer but very blessed that nothing seriously untoward has been upturned thus far, although potentially, Teddy still has a problem.
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Best vibes for Teddy :D
 
Today received feedback from Molly (second opinion at the request of vet) ...

So much to take in. Firstly she thought she could detect slight signs of arthritis in teddy's back legs. We have no idea how old he is but thought around 5-6 years but perhaps he is older than thought. Since he has been moved inside it has become apparent than one leg, not affected by urine scald, is not being placed quite as it should be. And when sitting Teddy doesn't tuck it under properly.

Molly thinks there might be useful to flush his bladder as she can see sludge on the x-ray. My vet feels it might be preferable to keep this invasive procedure in reserve having tried diet changes.

Diet. Both vets advise looking at calcium in his diet. I do know that the pellets, Science Select, are alpha meal based according to ingredients. He doesn't have a lot but am looking to change. Any suggestions please?

Both vets think revisiting EC is well worthwhile. He had a good response, initially, to Panacur. So he is having a blood test for it. (In the back of my mind, I am wondering about EC and the hindleg issue?). So anothern course of Panacur may well be reintroduced.

And going back to possible arthritis, both vets think Metacam may well be worth trying (.08 ml for teddy's 2.4kg).

Now, Molly (expert) also commented that Teddy could be on the cusp of renal failure, which is very unnerving. My vet is not quite as convinced or reacting. But I am, slightly, wondering about Metacam in the mix with the comment on Teddy's kidneys.

Meanwhile Teddy is doing very well, keeping dry underneath and healing from the urine scald. I am looking forward to hopefully moving him back outside at the weekend 😀
 
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cara said:
Today received feedback from Molly (second opinion at the request of vet) ...

So much to take in. Firstly she thought she could detect slight signs of arthritis in teddy's back legs. We have no idea how old he is but thought around 5-6 years but perhaps he is older than thought. Since he has been moved inside it has become apparent than one leg, not affected by urine scald, is not being placed quite as it should be. And when sitting Teddy doesn't tuck it under properly.

Molly thinks there might be useful to flush his bladder as she can see sludge on the x-ray. My vet feels it might be preferable to keep this invasive procedure in reserve having tried diet changes.

Diet. Both vets advise looking at calcium in his diet. I do know that the pellets, Science Select, are alpha meal based according to ingredients. He doesn't have a lot but am looking to change. Any suggestions please?

Both vets think revisiting EC is well worthwhile. He had a good response, initially, to Panacur. So he is having a blood test for it. (In the back of my mind, I am wondering about EC and the hindleg issue?). So anothern course of Panacur may well be reintroduced.

And going back to possible arthritis, both vets think Metacam may well be worth trying (.08 ml for teddy's 2.4kg).

Now, Molly (expert) also commented that Teddy could be on the cusp of renal failure, which is very unnerving. My vet is not quite as convinced or reacting. But I am, slightly, wondering about Metacam in the mix with the comment on Teddy's kidneys.

Meanwhile Teddy is doing very well, keeping dry underneath and healing from the urine scald. I am looking forward to hopefully moving him back outside at the weekend 😀
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Glad to hear that Teddy remains OK within himself. Re the Metacam dose, do you actually mean 0.8ml rather than 0.08ml ? I have great faith in Molly so I would be guided by her advice re treatments, but that is just my personal opinion.

FHB has provided dietary advice on her website for Rabbits with bladder sludge issues

https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/ar...t-for-rabbits-with-urinary-tract-disease/view

also this info'

https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/articles/free-food-for-rabbits/calcium-and-rabbit-food
 
cara said:
Today received feedback from Molly (second opinion at the request of vet) ...

So much to take in. Firstly she thought she could detect slight signs of arthritis in teddy's back legs. We have no idea how old he is but thought around 5-6 years but perhaps he is older than thought. Since he has been moved inside it has become apparent than one leg, not affected by urine scald, is not being placed quite as it should be. And when sitting Teddy doesn't tuck it under properly.

Molly thinks there might be useful to flush his bladder as she can see sludge on the x-ray. My vet feels it might be preferable to keep this invasive procedure in reserve having tried diet changes.

Diet. Both vets advise looking at calcium in his diet. I do know that the pellets, Science Select, are alpha meal based according to ingredients. He doesn't have a lot but am looking to change. Any suggestions please?

Both vets think revisiting EC is well worthwhile. He had a good response, initially, to Panacur. So he is having a blood test for it. (In the back of my mind, I am wondering about EC and the hindleg issue?). So anothern course of Panacur may well be reintroduced.

And going back to possible arthritis, both vets think Metacam may well be worth trying (.08 ml for teddy's 2.4kg).

Now, Molly (expert) also commented that Teddy could be on the cusp of renal failure, which is very unnerving. My vet is not quite as convinced or reacting. But I am, slightly, wondering about Metacam in the mix with the comment on Teddy's kidneys.

Meanwhile Teddy is doing very well, keeping dry underneath and healing from the urine scald. I am looking forward to hopefully moving him back outside at the weekend 😀
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Good to hear that Teddy's doing OK at the moment :D

Frances Harcourt Brown (retired rabbit specialist) recommends this diet sheet for rabbit's with Teddy's issues:

https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/ar...t-for-rabbits-with-urinary-tract-disease/view

http://www.rabbit.org/health/urolith.html

https://www.sandiegorabbits.org/diet.php

Ongoing good luck :wave:
 
Jack's-Jane said:
Glad to hear that Teddy remains OK within himself. Re the Metacam dose, do you actually mean 0.8ml rather than 0.08ml ? I have great faith in Molly so I would be guided by her advice re treatments, but that is just my personal opinion.

FHB has provided dietary advice on her website for Rabbits with bladder sludge issues

https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/ar...t-for-rabbits-with-urinary-tract-disease/view

also this info'

https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/articles/free-food-for-rabbits/calcium-and-rabbit-food
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Thanks for the links :D And yes, am sure I meant 0.8ml - I am shocking with weights and measures :oops:
 
Thanks MightyMax!


I have moved Teddy back outside, although no access to the garden just yet. I think he was such a happy bunny to get back to familiar ground :love:

So, waiting on the EC results which will be interesting and will start the Metacam tomorrow. Am also looking at his diet although, on the whole, I think its already not too bad. (Science Select is potentially a problem, but he has always has such a small amount daily, but am reducing that further whilst I find a suitable alternative).

However, what is concerning me is his hind leg which, although he hops very well on all fours, one leg does splay out when he is static. I watched today, and it just slid awkwardly :?

Grasping at straws, perhaps, but I got the impression Molly (expert vet), 'thought' there might be the first signs of a little arthritis on the x-ray ... I feel if it was arthritis, then this would be more obvious on the x-ray as it is very pronounced. It has become apparent very suddenly, (although I am trying to think if I had spotted something before). What I am wondering is, if he had EC, could this leg problem be associated with it, rather than arthritis?

As usual, thinking, thinking, thinking .. bladder sludge, inappropriate urination, urine scald, initially seemingly good response to Panacur but that wouldn't account for the bladder sludge issue? And now, gammy hind leg - EC or arthritis?

It's a wonder he is such a happy bunny :lol:
 
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