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Vaccinations of indoor buns

Char86

Young Bun
Please I don't want a debate. Just curious to what others do...

Just wondered who does/does not vax their indoor bunnies. And also the reason why you chose that path. I have heard some say they do not vaccinate their bunnies, because they do not go outside and they do not socialise with other bunnies. Also that the toxins in the vaccinations are more harmful than the risk of them getting the disease due to not socialising with other animals and not playing in the garden.

My opinion: each to their own.

(Mine are vaccinated. Just curious What others do. As said, not interested in debates. They bore me quickly, lol)

Thanks in advance...

Yes I vaccinate.
This is why:

No I do not vaccinate.
This is why:
 
I have four indoor Rabbits. 3 are vaccinated with both Nobivac Myxo-RHD and Filavac (RHD2). I believe that the risks associated with NOT vaccinating far exceed the very small risk associated with vaccinating. Indoor Rabbits are still at risk of Myxomatosis/RHD1 and RHD2

My fourth Rabbit cannot be vaccinated as he has a chronic health problem and on receiving his last vaccine (Nobivac Myxo-RHD) he became critically ill. My Vet has advised that he is no longer vaccinated.
 
I vaccinate because I feel it's the responsible thing to do.

My buns socialise with each other and sometimes use the same trays. Two are indoors and only go out (the front) when weather and I agree. I know cats and squirrels can get to the plant pots outside.

The two other buns live outside, out the back in a yard without possibility of cats/dogs/foxes getting in. I let them run inside once or twice a day as long as heating is not on/hasn't just been on (mainly Spring, Summer and Autumn).

I would hate for something to develop and know that I hadn't done everything in my power to prevent it.
 
The diseases we vaccinate against aren't spread by bunnies socialising with each other, likewise indoor rabbits are just as at risk and the outdoor bunnies, possibly moreso with VHD.

If anyone has a vet who advises against vaccinating indoor bunnies then I'd say find another vet who actually knows what they are talking about!**
**other than specific bunnies for health reasons.

As for the toxins in the vaccination being more harmful than the risk of the disease (what toxins??) That's pure bullpoop!

(In case it's not obvious, my indoor and outdoor rabbits get equal priority when vaccinating).
 
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A have an indoor bunny but I vaccinate both with Myxo-RHD and RHD2. I do believe the risks are lower but mosquitos can get into your house for example so there is still a risk. I would rather pay out and know she was safe than not to bother. Vets recommend vaccines to indoor bunnies too and they are the experts.
 
The diseases we vaccinate against aren't spread by bunnies socialising with each other, likewise indoor rabbits are just as at risk and the outdoor bunnies, possibly moreso with VHD.

If anyone has a vet who advises against vaccinating indoor bunnies then I'd say find another vet who actually knows what they are talking about!**
**other than specific bunnies for health reasons.

As for the toxins in the vaccination being more harmful than the risk of the disease (what toxins??) That's pure bullpoop!

(In case it's not obvious, my indoor and outdoor rabbits get equal priority when vaccinating).

This from a retired rabbit specialist (Frances Harcourt Brown) website:

If I keep my rabbit indoors and never take it to the vets or boarding kennels and disinfect everything, will it be safe from infection?

The answer is no. The only way you could shield your rabbit completely would be to keep it in a room that only people wearing protective clothing could enter. The virus can survive on plants and it is not possible to disinfect them so few diets are completely safe. Extruded nuggets are cooked at a high temperature should be free from the virus but are not ideal as the only food for rabbits. They are fattening and are designed to be fed alongside hay.
 
Both my indoor bunnies are vaccinated.
With nobivac RHD-Myxo and Filavac RHD-2.

I feel they're at risk even though they're indoors. I leave the house so can bring the viruses in that way, and I can't stop small blood sucking insects getting into the house either and spreading myxomatosis to the buns via a bite.

Daphne is over due hers, but she's been under the weather so it's been put on hold until she's better.

I know a few vets are now moving to: we over vaccinate our pets. But until they can provide tier testing for rabbits etc I will continue to vaccinate yearly.
When I have dogs; they'd have tier testing to see they're immune response and only vaccinate if the immune response it low.

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Both my indoor bunnies are vaccinated.
With nobivac RHD-Myxo and Filavac RHD-2.

I feel they're at risk even though they're indoors. I leave the house so can bring the viruses in that way, and I can't stop small blood sucking insects getting into the house either and spreading myxomatosis to the buns via a bite.

Daphne is over due hers, but she's been under the weather so it's been put on hold until she's better.

I know a few vets are now moving to: we over vaccinate our pets. But until they can provide tier testing for rabbits etc I will continue to vaccinate yearly.
When I have dogs; they'd have tier testing to see they're immune response and only vaccinate if the immune response it low.

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Do you mean titre testing for antibodies DP, or is this something else?
 
Both my indoor bunnies are vaccinated.
With nobivac RHD-Myxo and Filavac RHD-2.

I feel they're at risk even though they're indoors. I leave the house so can bring the viruses in that way, and I can't stop small blood sucking insects getting into the house either and spreading myxomatosis to the buns via a bite.

Daphne is over due hers, but she's been under the weather so it's been put on hold until she's better.

I know a few vets are now moving to: we over vaccinate our pets. But until they can provide tier testing for rabbits etc I will continue to vaccinate yearly.
When I have dogs; they'd have tier testing to see they're immune response and only vaccinate if the immune response it low.

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There's much debate about the reliability of titre testing too

http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/titer-testing-dog/

I have completely fuzzled my brain researching it !!
 
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Theirs much debate about the reliability of titre testing too

http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/titer-testing-dog/

I have completely fuzzled my brain researching it !!
Yes. It's a mind field. I used to have the debate with my vets too. Some were all for it, others against it.
All the dogs we done the testing in needed about three vaccines in their life, and never contracted anything nasty. But the same was for the ones that had yearly vaccinations so it's really whatever suits the owner.
I know when there was a distemper outbreak in 2013(?) A lot of the dog owners in the area who lost their ferrets to distemper had no losses or illness of their working dogs who came into contact with the ferrets (the dogs were not routinely vaccinated).

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In the past I have had outdoor rabbits and didn't vaccinate them for the simple reason that I was selfish and was keeping rabbits that I couldn't really afford the best care for. Now I'm in a much better situation and I have two house rabbits. Getting them vaccinated was not a hard decision for me at all, I would rather pay out £75 and have them jabbed three times a year than risk them dying of horrible preventable diseases, I would never forgive myself if they got RHD/myxi and I hadn't vaccinated them.

In my opinion outdoor and indoor should not be a factor in whether you vaccinate your rabbits. Myxomatosis is spread by biting insects. Some people think their rabbits aren't at risk if they're indoors and there's no cats/dogs in the house, this is absolutely not the case. Biting insects can hop from other people's pets to you, they can come in whenever you open a window or door (I opened the window for a few minutes last night and the next thing i knew a mosquito was flying around the room). RHD is spread even easier than myxi. It can be carried by animals, insects, hay, on objects, even in the wind. Someone (sorry can't remember who) made a good point the other day that indoor rabbits could be more easily exposed to RHD as they're more likely to come in to contact with things like shoes which you've likely worn outdoors in areas that could be infected.
 
The diseases we vaccinate against aren't spread by bunnies socialising with each other , likewise indoor rabbits are just as at risk and the outdoor bunnies, possibly moreso with VHD.

If anyone has a vet who advises against vaccinating indoor bunnies then I'd say find another vet who actually knows what they are talking about!**
**other than specific bunnies for health reasons.

As for the toxins in the vaccination being more harmful than the risk of the disease (what toxins??) That's pure bullpoop!

(In case it's not obvious, my indoor and outdoor rabbits get equal priority when vaccinating).


The RSPCA state that bunny to bunny contact causes the spread of the diseases we vaccinate against. https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/pets/rabbits/health/vaccinations
All vaccinations, for humans or for animals contain toxins. But then most people do not read inserts. Or if they do, they do not understand what the ingredient is and/or the impact on the body it has. Mild or severe, there will always be some impact, albeit it not always externally visible.
Google scholar details the toxins within vaccines (animal or human). :)
 
The RSPCA state that bunny to bunny contact causes the spread of the diseases we vaccinate against. https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/pets/rabbits/health/vaccinations
All vaccinations, for humans or for animals contain toxins. But then most people do not read inserts. Or if they do, they do not understand what the ingredient is and/or the impact on the body it has. Mild or severe, there will always be some impact, albeit it not always externally visible.
Google scholar details the toxins within vaccines (animal or human). :)

Yes, I know about the 'toxins' in the vaccines but they are not 'toxins' in the truest sense, they are just ingredients used to stabilise the vaccines but are not toxic or they wouldn't be used in the compound, therefore are not 'toxic'. It's scaremongering.

Whilst the RSPCA do cite bunny to bunny contact as a possible spread of the diseases (I'll take your word for that as I don't have time to read the link) this is not the main way the diseases spread or the highest risk, it's one possible component. Don't assume that because your rabbits don't come into contact with other rabbits they are not at risk. Interestingly when one of my rabbits has myxomatosis, my vet (expert in her field) advised that he should stay with his companion). His companion did not contract myxo.
 
The RSPCA state that bunny to bunny contact causes the spread of the diseases we vaccinate against. [

The RSPCA state that bunny to bunny contact is one of the causes of the spread of the diseases we vaccinate against. There are others, so indoor bunnies are very much at risk. For RHD, I'd say they're more at risk, because the chances of someone picking up the virus on their shoes/clothes while they're in the supermarket/at work/on the bus etc and traipsing it round their house when they get home are much higher for house rabbits.

This year, I've had both RHD and myxomatosis in my bunnies. I lost one, and even that was only because it was just before the vaccine got into the country. The rest were vaccinated the following week as soon as it arrived. If they hadn't been vaccinated against myxo/RHD, I'd probably have lost 10+. Good enough reason for me.
 
The RSPCA state that bunny to bunny contact is one of the causes of the spread of the diseases we vaccinate against. There are others, so indoor bunnies are very much at risk. For RHD, I'd say they're more at risk, because the chances of someone picking up the virus on their shoes/clothes while they're in the supermarket/at work/on the bus etc and traipsing it round their house when they get home are much higher for house rabbits.

This year, I've had both RHD and myxomatosis in my bunnies. I lost one, and even that was only because it was just before the vaccine got into the country. The rest were vaccinated the following week as soon as it arrived. If they hadn't been vaccinated against myxo/RHD, I'd probably have lost 10+. Good enough reason for me.

Yes your right Santa, one of, where as bunny buddy made out it wasn't remotely a possible cause.
 
Toxins can cause side effects, severe to mild. That is in the vaccine inserts. That is not scaremongering.

Also had you read my op... My buns ARE vaxed. I was just after why others may not vax or may vax.
 
Yes your right Santa, one of, where as bunny buddy made out it wasn't remotely a possible cause.

No she didn't...she clearly said that it's not the main way, it's one possible component.

I wonder if the advice about keeping myxo bunnies with companions would be different if the companion bunnies weren't vaccinated? I expect it probably would.
 
my three indoor bunnies are vaccinated with the combi myxi/vhd & cunnivac . I think the myxi risk is probably slightly worse for outside buns but rhvd2 would worry me equally wherever I kept them. I vaccinate as I believe it affords them some protection & offers me reassurance in that respect
 
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