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    Default E.C. U/D.. is it time to give up? Need someone to be optimistic x

    Hi,I am back on the forum for loads of advice and vibes.
    Ghostie my six year old has come down with a bout of EC spotted on my return from uni.
    Vet treated with jab of 'low-dose anti-inflammatories' and one notch of panacur a day. Is this enough?
    She's now back up at uni with me to nurse her.
    She's not my bunny, it's quite sad actually, not her usual feisty self but I know she's a fighter and I love her dearly. Very drunk actions, always flopped out, pretty miserable, falls over after handling. Eating, drinking, pooing all fine.
    Off to work so sorry for short post but please can people put their experiences and help me have hope! c
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    Hetty...


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    There are a lot of EC posts coming up at the moment .. I wonder, why is that?



    http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/sh...for-E-Cuniculi

    See my thread above .. mine is just one in the past couple of months ..

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    Saffy, I was thinking the same Are there usually this many posts on EC?

    Here is my blog on Mushroom, just started it up today. Mushroom was diagnosed with EC Sunday night.
    http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/sh...ushroom-and-EC

    Hugs for you and your little one xx

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    Hi guys, G has been on her Panacur for about 2 weeks now (finishing second seringe) and today I walked into my room and the room smelt horrendous. I walked over and saw pools of very wet sludgy poo. She hasn't been flopping out today, her head tilt seems worse. I thought she was getting better.
    She's not happy, she's not my bunny who is a feisty little madam, bounding around and playing.
    I know it's not going to make her tummy better but I have put her out on the grass to cheer her up as she seems quite done and this his thoroughly worked, she's investigating and chomping on some grass.
    What do I do. I have no experience with EC and am very concerned about if she ever will make a recovery and her quality of life.
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    Apart from Panacur what other meds is she on ? Is the head tilt definitely due to EC and not to a middle ear infection ?


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    Only Panacur...... vet looked in ears and said she saw no infection and therefore antiobiotics would inhibit ec or something.... I haven't a clue about ec so completely trusted her......
    Hetty...


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    Quote Originally Posted by *Spider* View Post
    Only Panacur...... vet looked in ears and said she saw no infection and therefore antiobiotics would inhibit ec or something.... I haven't a clue about ec so completely trusted her......
    A very important part of the treatment of EC is giving a non steroidal anti-inflammatory such as Metacam. It is inflammation within the CNS caused by erupting EC spores that causes clinical symptoms and longterm cellular damage.

    Middle ear infections cannot be identified simply by looking into the ear canal with an otoscope. Skull radiographs are needed.

    There is some comprehensive information about EC here

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...3IZVX7iM5Uaz_Q

    With regards to her poo issue today, is it true diarrhoea or unformed cecotrophs ?


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    ThanksJane, will get her to vets ASAP, I'm so angry.
    True diarrhoea x
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    http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/sh...96#post6044196

    See my post here, this is my recent battle with Cleo and EC. It was a long long 2-3 months before we saw any improvement that showed Cleo was going to get well enough to have a decent quality of life.

    Second what Jane says about needing daily anti inflammatory and also some decent antibiotics for possible ear infection. Cleo had two weeks of Zithromax antibiotic and is still on metacam daily, we are just starting to wean her off it now after 3 months of it.

    Cleo never had true diahorrea but she passed a lot of softer poo in her worst days, and couldn't eat her cecotrophs and a lot of them were unformed. Because she was so poorly and couldn't stand we'd often find her caked in them and she needed cleaning several times daily.

    Fibreplex may be helpful to support her stomach while she is on the medications.

    Sending lots of vibes for her x


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    Awww Hetty are you back in Gloucester now? Can you get an appointment to see Jason?

    I remember SJ had a long "discussion" with one of the vets at your Essex practice about them not wanting to prescribe anything other than panacur for ec, so I would definitely see if you can get her to a decent bunny savvy vet for a second opinion ASAP. I know they can look very poorly for quite a while but can also make a very good recovery if treated appropriately. Big hugs x x
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