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    Default What to do for Buttercup now she's on her own?

    Buttercup, Kenco's wifey bun, is now on her own after we lost him a couple of days ago. She is outside in their big kennel. She seems ok in herself and is eating, she is lively when she comes for her food, although she does look around the run for Kenco at first I think she is coping very well in the circumstances. Kenco is the only husbun she has ever had, they were bonded at the end of April.

    She is warm enough because although the kennel is big, there is a snuggly house full of straw for her and we are giving her a snugglesafe heatpad at nighttime as she doesnt have Kenco to snuggle to. We also have wooden flaps that cover all the windows to the kennel and a tarpaulin that goes over the top. I am not worried about her eating or keeping warm (for the moment as it is mild) so much as I am about her loneliness, confusion and boredom out in the dark long nights.

    In time I think we will try to see if she will bond with Zebedee, the little stray bunny we found at the railway station in November, who is living in our kitchen. However he can't go outside until spring when the weather is warmer, so this will be a few months away at the earliest.

    Do you think while she is coping ok she will be alright outside on her own for the next few months? Obviously we are checking on her very regularly but we will not be able to spend quite as much time with them all soon as our human baby is due within the next 3 weeks. We were telling ourselves all would be ok because they are all in pairs (except Zeb but he's in the busiest room of the house), but obviously this is now not the case.

    Should we risk stressing her out by bringing her in the house once baby is born (we can't do it before for various reasons)? At least then we can interact with her more and keep an eye on her more easily, plus she will have time to forget the kennel, so that if a bond with Zebedee does work out, when they both go out again it will seem 'new' to them both. (It will be deep cleaned, repainted, stuff moved around etc). But then what if the change of environment and temperature, plus a crying baby in the house stresses her out more than staying outside on her own?

    What would you do?


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    I'd bring her in now to get her used to a new environment rather than having to do so with a New Born Baby about too. She would then only need to deal with one new experience at a time.

    But you say you cant do that ??

    Can she at least see other Rabbits from her outdoor accommodation ?



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    Thanks Jane. Space is the issue pre-baby, the reason being that Zebedee is in the kitchen, so she can't go there, there is nowhere upstairs as we have Starbuck and Muesli in the spare room, and then that just leaves the lounge. Now the reason we can't use the lounge is because *looks sheepish* we are hoping to have a homebirth and have a water pool to use in the living room, the midwives and me will need room for me to move around etc. Sorry bit embarrassing having to say that on a rabbit forum but suppose I set myself up for that one!

    The only other option is the nursery but I don't think my OH would be happy about having a bunny in there because he has re-carpeted, re-decorated and made it all beautiful for the baby...is that really selfish? Also we would have to close Starbuck and Muesli off from that room, and Muesli is already weeing more on the landing I think because of Zeb being in the house and knowing that baby is on its way. So she may not get much more interaction from us if she was in there, purely because it will be difficult trying to keep the two parties separate, if that makes sense.

    ETA: Once the baby has arrived, there is no reason why Buttercup can't come in the lounge, it would just be the practicalities of getting it set up for her while we have a new baby.

    Also no she can't really see Twinkle and Star from her run, I mean she can just about but we deliberately put it sideways on so that there would be no referred aggression.
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    Don't be embarrassed about having a home birth! I think thats pretty much the top reason for not having a bun in the room Could Buttercup go in the bathroom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgeypudding View Post
    Don't be embarrassed about having a home birth! I think thats pretty much the top reason for not having a bun in the room Could Buttercup go in the bathroom?
    Thanks Georgey. Our bathroom is only small, so that's not practical for her either I'm afraid.


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    I never knew you were expecting... congratulations

    I'm sure you will do what is best for buttercup, obv the best thing would be to get her a friend or have her indoors but if this isn't practical, all you can do is your best in the situation for now.
    I agree in not putting her in the lounge for now is prob not a good idea. You need a relaxed atmosphere for giving birth and don't want to worry about her. It's not selfish. After the baby is born (you are only talking a few weeks) then reassess the situation.
    You are right Baby might scare her, Charlie came from a family of a screaming baby and he was terrified. Also a baby is soooo tiring and time consuming don't put extra stress on yourself at that time.
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    Thanks Kath

    We are keeping a very close eye on her but I just worry about her being out there all by herself all of a sudden. Hopefully it will only be a matter of weeks until baby arrives and then we can see about bringing her in, but you are right about not wanting to scare her/stress her more with a crying baby in the house, the last thing I would want to do is make her more scared and unsettled. I'm already wondering how the indoor bunnies are going to cope but with Starbuck being deaf and Muesli being a lop I am hoping they may be slightly less affected, and Zebedee is in the kitchen which means he will hopefully get the least of it in there.

    It will be easier if she and Zebedee can be bonded but I know that can't happen until spring so its just what to do in the meantime, I don't want her feeling sad and lonely and bored.


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    Why can't she and Zeb be bonded until spring? I was going to suggest bonding them now, so that they can live together in the kitchen until they can go back out? Then you can have the lounge free (which, by the way, sounds amazing and I hope it goes well for you!).

    Failing that I would be pretty reluctant to leave her alone for such a long time, and I'd be looking into finding her a friend now, with hopes to include Zeb later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bethepoet View Post
    Why can't she and Zeb be bonded until spring? I was going to suggest bonding them now, so that they can live together in the kitchen until they can go back out? Then you can have the lounge free (which, by the way, sounds amazing and I hope it goes well for you!).

    Failing that I would be pretty reluctant to leave her alone for such a long time, and I'd be looking into finding her a friend now, with hopes to include Zeb later on.
    Thank you. Well mainly because they would need to go outside to live together, but I guess they could be bonded first and then move out in the spring. Its just that I am no good with bonding and the lovely lady who usually does my bonding for me only has outside facilities so with Zebedee being an indoor bunny presently I would worry that would be too cold for him. I haven't asked her yet though. Also I am wondering if we get them bonded now then the stress of a new born baby in the house could upset the bond once they get back? And we wouldnt have the energy to supervise their settling in period as we will be distracted by the baby? So wondering if its better to wait til we are in some kind of routine (whenever that happens with a newborn! ) so that we can make their transition home again as smooth as possible.

    Hope this makes sense. I'm not meaning to keep putting 'but this' or 'but that', just trying to think it all through for the best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by helgalush View Post
    Thank you. Well mainly because they would need to go outside to live together, but I guess they could be bonded first and then move out in the spring. Its just that I am no good with bonding and the lovely lady who usually does my bonding for me only has outside facilities so with Zebedee being an indoor bunny presently I would worry that would be too cold for him. I haven't asked her yet though. Also I am wondering if we get them bonded now then the stress of a new born baby in the house could upset the bond once they get back? And we wouldnt have the energy to supervise their settling in period as we will be distracted by the baby? So wondering if its better to wait til we are in some kind of routine (whenever that happens with a newborn! ) so that we can make their transition home again as smooth as possible.

    Hope this makes sense. I'm not meaning to keep putting 'but this' or 'but that', just trying to think it all through for the best.
    No no, best to think of everything.

    Is there no way at all she could have them inside? Or you could find someone who has inside facilities? Or maybe even try it yourself? You never know, it may be a case of love at first sight.

    If it were me, I'd wait until the very last minute when I'm about to pop, and I'd send them off to be bonded for a week or two. Then maybe move them into the lounge so you could be with baby and supervise the rabbits at the same time.

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