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Humphrey - 9 weeks old - GI Stasis UPDATE: He is back in hospital

Diarrhoea can in some cases also be the sign of gut motility problems just as stasis is (it can also be caused by infection, especially in younger rabbits). It is always serious, the rabbit can become dehydrated quickly and needs subcutaneous fluids (some vets also use IV).

I lost a 4-month old bunny to diarrhoea in December so I feel too involved in my own experience to be able to advise whether to move him.
Hoping someone more experienced comes along soon.
 
Diarrhea in a baby rabbit is extremely severe :(

I'm not sure on the treatment regime for this, but a rabbit savvy vet would know appropriate treatment - i'm hoping Jacks-Jane, Sky-O, Prettylupin or a few others come along and notice this soon as this doesn't sound particularly good for poor bunny.

Loads more vibes for Humphrey.
 
Diarrhoea is life threatening. I personally would be worrying about mucoid enteritis. I think it's a progression of what is going on, but not an upwards one. Not sure though, whether it would be 'sideways' or downwards.

If you are not comfortable with moving him could you maybe talk to Twickenham vets and discuss your fears and concerns? Or maybe ask the current vets to contact him?

You are very possibly in a catch 22 situation now, sadly, and it's very possible that whatever you do, he may not make it through this.

I would say trust your gut instinct and follow it because that will lead you the right way.
 
Also, just wanted to add that fluids are going to be super important. Is he receiving them either via a drip or sub cutaneous injections?
 
Yeah and I just phoned them again. He's being given fluid Injections and they are happy with his 'progress'. I don't know if they're stupid or the Internet is making me paranoid!!!

I'm also really worried and I have to go back to work Monday and I know sapphire is going to be so unhappy at home on her own :(
 
We're going by what descrption you're giving us, they can see the bunny. What diarrhoea shows is that he doesn't have a complete blockage, however it does show something is very wrong. If he started passing diarrhoea and got very lively then, you can see how they would think it ws a progression. My gut tells me different but that's based on minimal information on your specific bunny.

It sounds like they are doing their best, but the question is, is their best good enough?

What does your gut say?
 
Kavanne said:
Walton on Thames, in Surrey. I contacted bobtails rescue and they use a
Vet in Sutton
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I know this is a little late but I can recommend the vets that Bobtails use as I use them myself. David More is really good.

Hope your little bun can pull through.
 
i really can't add anymore to what other people have said - diarrheoa is not usually seen as a 'progression' at all - and may lead to death rapidly if not correctly treated. Sorry to be blunt.

I am just hoping that the fluids will save him. Are they giving anything to boost good gut flora or stop the growth of the 'bad' bacteria (see Jack Janes post). Is he eating any hay (and have they at least removed all sugary substances, juices etc that they were giving as these will devastate the good bacteria?).

Can you at least get them to ring the other recommended vets?? Did you ring other vets?
 
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Hi,
I hope by diarrhoea the vets mean he is passing soft poos. If it is true diarrhoea then it is a much more serious situation - young rabbits need aggressive fluids, toxin binders, syringe feeding and potentially antibiotics and anticoccidial drugs depending on cause.
This little man needs some serious care and it is critical that the vets are really on top of his condition and treating him intensively rather than just supportive measures. Are you able to go in and talk to the vet looking after him today? It is worth having an open discussion - how they honestly feel he is doing and whether he may benefit from more specialist care if they aren't confident they are on top of it. It may be that they know what is happening, they are responding appropriately and are happy they are doing everything possible and there is no need to change the plan but you need to ask so that you can be sure he is getting the best care and to put your mind at ease.
Marie
 
marie_kubiak said:
Hi,
I hope by diarrhoea the vets mean he is passing soft poos. If it is true diarrhoea then it is a much more serious situation - young rabbits need aggressive fluids, toxin binders, syringe feeding and potentially antibiotics and anticoccidial drugs depending on cause.
This little man needs some serious care and it is critical that the vets are really on top of his condition and treating him intensively rather than just supportive measures.

Marie
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Always glad to see you on-line Marie:wave::wave:
 
Maria, thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I am currently awaiting the vets
To give me a call back and I will clarify what they mean by diarrhoea. Unfortunately I get the feeling this particular vet that's on today doesn't like me too much as I'm 'interfering'. I will see what she says.

marie_kubiak said:
Hi,
I hope by diarrhoea the vets mean he is passing soft poos. If it is true diarrhoea then it is a much more serious situation - young rabbits need aggressive fluids, toxin binders, syringe feeding and potentially antibiotics and anticoccidial drugs depending on cause.
This little man needs some serious care and it is critical that the vets are really on top of his condition and treating him intensively rather than just supportive measures. Are you able to go in and talk to the vet looking after him today? It is worth having an open discussion - how they honestly feel he is doing and whether he may benefit from more specialist care if they aren't confident they are on top of it. It may be that they know what is happening, they are responding appropriately and are happy they are doing everything possible and there is no need to change the plan but you need to ask so that you can be sure he is getting the best care and to put your mind at ease.
Marie
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Kavanne said:
Maria, thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I am currently awaiting the vets
To give me a call back and I will clarify what they mean by diarrhoea. Unfortunately I get the feeling this particular vet that's on today doesn't like me too much as I'm 'interfering'. I will see what she says.
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humfrey is relying on you -he only has you to 'interfere' for him - be strong for him
 
Kavanne said:
Maria, thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I am currently awaiting the vets
To give me a call back and I will clarify what they mean by diarrhoea. Unfortunately I get the feeling this particular vet that's on today doesn't like me too much as I'm 'interfering'. I will see what she says.
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Don't let a vet bully you into feeling you are interfering.

You and only you can advocate for Humphrey, he is relying on your to help him.

If you have a feeling its not right, then may i suggest you contact another vet immediately and get him the help he needs.
 
Marie to the rescue!

There is a link in my sig to 'Please Remember to Advocate for your Bunny'. It might be worth a read :) It might also help make it easier for you to do so.
 
Current Vet is continuing metaclopramide. Luckily they aren't giving pineapple juice anymore. They're giving probiotics but won't give antibiotics.

They are trying to tempt him with cucumber and celery. I asked them
To withdraw this as he's not had any veg yet and I don't want to add more problems. She said it would be worse for him not to eat at all.

Also, the diarrhoea was watery, not just loose pellets.... I've phoned twickenham and hopefully they will be able to call me tonight. Corner vets in Sutton opens again at 5 so I will call them then too.
 
Kavanne said:
Current Vet is continuing metaclopramide. Luckily they aren't giving pineapple juice anymore. They're giving probiotics but won't give antibiotics.

They are trying to tempt him with cucumber and celery. I asked them
To withdraw this as he's not had any veg yet and I don't want to add more problems. She said it would be worse for him not to eat at all.

Also, the diarrhoea was watery, not just loose pellets.... I've phoned twickenham and hopefully they will be able to call me tonight. Corner vets in Sutton opens again at 5 so I will call them then too.
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Hay is what he needs - no veg he is not used to - no watery veg. HAY and the medicines that Marie said. PLEASE find him a new vets - Please get him to somewhere like Twickenham and a rabbit vet. water diarrhoea is very very serious - it does not need metaclopromide it needs the toxin binders etc etc as Marie said.

I will probably not post here again as I am finding it so difficult to stand away and am getting far too emotionally involved with this poor little chap - This reminds me SO much of what my baby bun went through. She was literally almost dead by the time I had the sense to follow my friends advice get her to a decent vet who knew something rather than the vets she was in. I stupidly thought that all vets knew something about rabbits. She had a miracle and the good vets saved her - but not all buns have a miracle and time is vital with baby buns.

There is no such thing as 'we'll see how he is in the morning' with an ill baby rabbit. . . ask any experienced bun person on here. Every moment is vital.
 
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Thanks parsnip. I spoke to Wendy at twickenham and she didn't disagree with anything being done but said I was welcome to bring him down for a second opinion tomorrow if I wanted so I feel a bit relieved?
 
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